antrin Posted May 13, 2022 Report Share Posted May 13, 2022 8 hours ago, FTOF said: The ferry situation has indeed been a costly fuck up of monumental proportions. However, if the current level of scrutiny being applied to the situation was applied to the contracts handed out to the Tory network and for equipment not fit for purpose during Covid, I wonder how many "ferry fuck ups" would equal that vast sum of taxpayers money. The tip of the iceberg - Ministers refuse to share papers relating to £200m PPE contracts with Michelle Mone-linked firm - Business Insider You have to laugh at the Tory frog king at Holyrood accusing the scottish government of corruption and wasting taxpayers money. I know it's his job, but what a brass neck. Whataboutery is never a good look. even a frog king would be better than the current Buffoon in Downing Street. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exiledfan Posted May 16, 2022 Report Share Posted May 16, 2022 On 5/13/2022 at 6:14 AM, antrin said: Whataboutery is never a good look. even a frog king would be better than the current Buffoon in Downing Street. Don't forget that he is the first prime minister in 30 years to lead UK to runners up spot in Eurovision. Showing them pesky Europeans who really runs Europe (in his own deluded head) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlucifer Posted May 16, 2022 Report Share Posted May 16, 2022 21 minutes ago, exiledfan said: Don't forget that he is the first prime minister in 30 years to lead UK to runners up spot in Eurovision. Showing them pesky Europeans who really runs Europe (in his own deluded head) We all know the Eurovision contest is politically motivated. It's obvious that the Europeans are determined to make us keep BoJo so he can really feck up Britain while they sit on the sideline laughing their collective heads off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanb Posted May 17, 2022 Report Share Posted May 17, 2022 (edited) Not another one... Edited May 17, 2022 by alanb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted May 25, 2022 Report Share Posted May 25, 2022 Today's publication of the Sue Gray report just confirms the absolute disregard that Johnson and every other fcukwit that attended has for the public and they should go right now. The continued denial by Johnson and silence from the rest is utterly shocking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted May 26, 2022 Report Share Posted May 26, 2022 £400 to help ease the rise in fuel bills, mustn't grumble, although I'm sure some cheery souls will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 27, 2022 Report Share Posted May 27, 2022 13 hours ago, faraway saint said: £400 to help ease the rise in fuel bills, mustn't grumble, although I'm sure some cheery souls will. Do we know how the money will be distributed? I’d hate to see people not use it for the intended purpose and perhaps waste it instead. Me? I’m gonna stick it on Scotland to win the World Cup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted May 27, 2022 Report Share Posted May 27, 2022 4 minutes ago, SuperSaints1877 said: Do we know how the money will be distributed? I’d hate to see people not use it for the intended purpose and perhaps waste it instead. Me? I’m gonna stick it on Scotland to win the World Cup. Not sure but I've asked for mines to be paid in euros. 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truesaint Posted May 27, 2022 Report Share Posted May 27, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, SuperSaints1877 said: Do we know how the money will be distributed? I’d hate to see people not use it for the intended purpose and perhaps waste it instead. Me? I’m gonna stick it on Scotland to win the World Cup. Deducted from bill in October. https://www.gov.uk/government/news/millions-of-most-vulnerable-households-will-receive-1200-of-help-with-cost-of-living as a wee side safety bet, put a fiver double on New Zealand with Alex Grieve as tournament top scorer. Edited May 27, 2022 by truesaint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ianmac Posted May 27, 2022 Report Share Posted May 27, 2022 Quite handy when you can change the rules when you get caught........ Boris Johnson changes ministerial code to remove need to resign over breaches | Boris Johnson | The Guardian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antrin Posted May 27, 2022 Report Share Posted May 27, 2022 (edited) . Edited May 27, 2022 by antrin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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FTOF Posted June 3, 2022 Report Share Posted June 3, 2022 Ferries you say? Delays to Ajax armoured vehicles risk national security, MPs warn - BBC News Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antrin Posted June 6, 2022 Report Share Posted June 6, 2022 Amid theTory MP letters, this one by Jesse Norman is a star. He’s nailed it. https://twitter.com/Jesse_Norman/status/1533699235417403393/photo/2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianmac Posted June 6, 2022 Report Share Posted June 6, 2022 3 hours ago, antrin said: Amid theTory MP letters, this one by Jesse Norman is a star. He’s nailed it. https://twitter.com/Jesse_Norman/status/1533699235417403393/photo/2 Thanks for finding that. As you say the guy has got it spot on, except perhaps the bit at the end saying a change of government at the next election would be a catastrophe.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callum Gilhooley Posted June 6, 2022 Report Share Posted June 6, 2022 On 6/3/2022 at 1:45 PM, FTOF said: Ferries you say? Delays to Ajax armoured vehicles risk national security, MPs warn - BBC News You could also add the £400 Million wasted when the Warrior project was scrapped before a single unit was upgraded & the Massive overspend on the two carriers which incidentally still are nowhere near their full complement of Aircraft & The Dreadnought Submarines which are currently some 5-6 years behind schedule and already £1.5 Billion over budget Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rascal Posted June 6, 2022 Report Share Posted June 6, 2022 1 hour ago, Callum Gilhooley said: You could also add the £400 Million wasted when the Warrior project was scrapped before a single unit was upgraded & the Massive overspend on the two carriers which incidentally still are nowhere near their full complement of Aircraft & The Dreadnought Submarines which are currently some 5-6 years behind schedule and already £1.5 Billion over budget It is unsettling that no public body seems capable of budgeting and delivering projects on time whether at Local Government (Trams), National (Ferries) or UK level (see posts) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slarti Posted June 6, 2022 Report Share Posted June 6, 2022 You could also add the £400 Million wasted when the Warrior project was scrapped before a single unit was upgraded & the Massive overspend on the two carriers which incidentally still are nowhere near their full complement of Aircraft & The Dreadnought Submarines which are currently some 5-6 years behind schedule and already £1.5 Billion over budget Politicians wasting tax payer's money, hoodathunkit?I'm with The Big Yin on this, "The desire to be a politician should bar you for life from ever being one". They're all a bunch of shysters, just some (usually the ones in power) more than others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callum Gilhooley Posted June 6, 2022 Report Share Posted June 6, 2022 13 minutes ago, Slarti said: Politicians wasting tax payer's money, hoodathunkit? I'm with The Big Yin on this, "The desire to be a politician should bar you for life from ever being one". They're all a bunch of shysters, just some (usually the ones in power) more than others. Absolutely 👍. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callum Gilhooley Posted June 6, 2022 Report Share Posted June 6, 2022 14 minutes ago, Rascal said: It is unsettling that no public body seems capable of budgeting and delivering projects on time whether at Local Government (Trams), National (Ferries) or UK level (see posts) The problem is often that civil servants want something done to fit a budget ( usually on the cheap ) while those who will use the facility or piece of equipment want it to do what it needs to - what ever it costs while suppliers will tell both sides what they want to hear . Political parties of whatever colour will do what suits their agenda best .Add it all together and you’re unlikely to get a major capital project done to everyone’s satisfaction or cost . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rascal Posted June 6, 2022 Report Share Posted June 6, 2022 14 minutes ago, Callum Gilhooley said: The problem is often that civil servants want something done to fit a budget ( usually on the cheap ) while those who will use the facility or piece of equipment want it to do what it needs to - what ever it costs while suppliers will tell both sides what they want to hear . Political parties of whatever colour will do what suits their agenda best .Add it all together and you’re unlikely to get a major capital project done to everyone’s satisfaction or cost . Fair points CG. Design a horse and get a camel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slarti Posted June 6, 2022 Report Share Posted June 6, 2022 The problem is often that civil servants want something done to fit a budget ( usually on the cheap ) while those who will use the facility or piece of equipment want it to do what it needs to - what ever it costs while suppliers will tell both sides what they want to hear . Political parties of whatever colour will do what suits their agenda best .Add it all together and you’re unlikely to get a major capital project done to everyone’s satisfaction or cost . The biggest issue is that suppliers (who should be the experts) won't raise issues they know about because when the buyer realises it later, they have to pay extra as an additional piece of work, and that's why everything goes over budget. Like most things, the people that have to use it or work in it, are never consulted. It's what comes from employing career managers who know how to get grammatically correct bits of paper in on time but who don't know anything about the details on the bits of paper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antrin Posted June 6, 2022 Report Share Posted June 6, 2022 1 hour ago, Slarti said: Politicians wasting tax payer's money, hoodathunkit? I'm with The Big Yin on this, "The desire to be a politician should bar you for life from ever being one". They're all a bunch of shysters, just some (usually the ones in power) more than others. Talking of shysters, the vote for the current biggest one of all should be complete by 8.00pm tonight. Led by Donkeys has done an excellent wee bio-film about The Buffoon. So if any of you will be voting on this tonight, please let it guide your hand… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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