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6 hours ago, ALBIONSAINT said:

Malta also seems to be miles ahead also. Might be a good shout for a summer/autumn holiday? 

TBH, I'm a big fearty when it comes to flying.

I also don't have a passport and neither does my wife so that might be an issue using ferries to France. :P

So I'm quite happy to stay in the UK.

Would be nice to see others get a chance to get on with their lives though and get a bit of sun for once.

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13 minutes ago, oaksoft said:

TBH, I'm a big fearty when it comes to flying.

I also don't have a passport and neither does my wife so that might be an issue using ferries to France. :P

So I'm quite happy to stay in the UK.

Would be nice to see others get a chance to get on with their lives though and get a bit of sun for once.

 

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3 hours ago, saintnextlifetime said:

If you actually listen to him he is making a perfectly valid observation(something you should try ) , rather than professing to have Scotland's interests at heart .

Do you actually  think that you are going to get independence from a bunch of globalists??

I don't think you have been dropped on the head but it does sound like you possibly have Munchausen Syndrome by Proxy , a touch of Stockholm Syndrome and right now perhaps in a River in Egypt.............................................

 

Let's see how those "truths" stack up.

1) Joining the EU would be an economic union not a political one. You might not like the EU but joining the EU is simply not the same as being in the UK. Totally different beast. The EU will not be telling us how much to spend on welfare, defence, prisons, pensions, or a raft of other things which right now are dictated to us by the UK parliament. To claim the two unions are the same is intellectual dishonesty.

2) New members are NOT forced to accept the Euro as currency.

3) Joining the EU would NOT have forced us to rely on their vaccination program.

4) He said "You can't be an independent country and be in the EU". Tell that to Germany, France, Italy, Netherlands and all the other countries in the EU. I think, they would disagree.

You talk about the "troof?" You can't handle the "troof" boy. Ah the memories. Good ol' Jack.

One last point. Farage is spouting his opinion which he is perfectly entitled to do. They are not facts or truth bombs. They are opinions. Best not to confuse the two, Mr Peach Slices.

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1 minute ago, oaksoft said:

Let's see how those "truths" stack up.

1) Joining the EU would be an economic union not a political one.

2) New members are NOT forced to accept the Euro as currency.

3) Joining the EU would NOT have forced us to rely on their vaccination program.

4) He said "You can't be an independent country and be in the EU". Tell that to Germany, France, Italy, Netherlands and all the other countries in the EU. I think, they would disagree.

You talk about the "troof?" You can't handle the "troof" boy. Ah the memories. Good ol' Jack.

One last point. Farage is spouting his opinion which he is perfectly entitled to do. They are not facts or truth bombs. They are opinions. Best not to confuse the two, Mr Peach Slices.

That's what I was going to say :1eye you beat me to it,  so i'm off to bed 

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20 hours ago, oaksoft said:

Let's see how those "truths" stack up.

1) Joining the EU would be an economic union not a political one. You might not like the EU but joining the EU is simply not the same as being in the UK. Totally different beast. The EU will not be telling us how much to spend on welfare, defence, prisons, pensions, or a raft of other things which right now are dictated to us by the UK parliament. To claim the two unions are the same is intellectual dishonesty.

2) New members are NOT forced to accept the Euro as currency.

3) Joining the EU would NOT have forced us to rely on their vaccination program.

4) He said "You can't be an independent country and be in the EU". Tell that to Germany, France, Italy, Netherlands and all the other countries in the EU. I think, they would disagree.

You talk about the "troof?" You can't handle the "troof" boy. Ah the memories. Good ol' Jack.

One last point. Farage is spouting his opinion which he is perfectly entitled to do. They are not facts or truth bombs. They are opinions. Best not to confuse the two, Mr Peach Slices.

Hmm, I think you'll find that a major aim for the EU is political union in order to make monetary union work in their opinion ?

Do you really think Scotland will dictate the terms that it will enter the EU if its allowed in?

I think we will be in the Euro if we ever go independent, just my opinion. Ask Ireland how they got on with interest rates set by ECB and who controlled that !

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43 minutes ago, lenziebud said:

Hmm, I think you'll find that a major aim for the EU is political union in order to make monetary union work in their opinion ?

Do you really think Scotland will dictate the terms that it will enter the EU if its allowed in?

I think we will be in the Euro if we ever go independent, just my opinion. Ask Ireland how they got on with interest rates set by ECB and who controlled that !

There are differing opinions on all of this. I just wanted to highlight that SNLT had no business labelling these things as facts. He has a habit of doing that.

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There are differing opinions on all of this. I just wanted to highlight that SNLT had no business labelling these things as facts. He has a habit of doing that.
That's just mental. Who on earth would claim something is a fact when it isn't? :whistle
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3 hours ago, oaksoft said:

It had better not be me or I'm going to be very pissed off.

FFS! 

You'd have thought the fact that @Slarti has mentioned this a million times you might have caught on who he's referring to....................unless he's also on your ever growing ignore list. :lol:

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FFS! 
You'd have thought the fact that [mention=15951]Slarti[/mention] has mentioned this a million times you might have caught on who he's referring to....................unless he's also on your ever growing ignore list. 
I think he knows.

It's at least 2 million, no half measures from me.
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The Brexit Bonus Pt. 247 - JD Sports owned by Brexit & ex-UKIP supporter Mick Ashley is opening a new warehouse in Dublin. Obviously it's a complicated issue but is their any doubt that the long term goal of big business, the Tory party & the gammon press was to push back workers rights by scaremongering and encouraging people to see the differences between us & Europe - roll on Hartlepool and the next triumph of the gammons...

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Retailer JD Sports is to open a 65,000 sq ft warehouse near Dublin to tackle post-Brexit trading problems.

Goods which JD imports from East Asia to GB now incur tariffs when they are distributed onward to its stores across Europe.

To deal with this JD has already opened a warehouse in Belgium but says it needs a specific facility for Ireland.

apparently...

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The boss of one of Britain's big retailers says Brexit has turned out to be "considerably worse" than he feared.

 

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1 hour ago, Bud the Baker said:

The Brexit Bonus Pt. 247 - JD Sports owned by Brexit & ex-UKIP supporter Mick Ashley is opening a new warehouse in Dublin. Obviously it's a complicated issue but is their any doubt that the long term goal of big business, the Tory party & the gammon press was to push back workers rights by scaremongering and encouraging people to see the differences between us & Europe - roll on Hartlepool and the next triumph of the gammons...

apparently...

Good to see Brexit creating all these jobs for British nationals In Ireland and Belgium.:rolleyes:

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Little shocks me about grift in politics these days but the emerging news that a senior civil servant (Bill Crothers) joined financial services company Greensill while still employed by the taxpayers comes close.

Mr Crothers is no relation to 60s US comedy duo The Smothers Brothers but his insistence that there was no conflict of interest is a comedy classic...:king

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I'm really surprised :rolleyes: no one had reported this startling admission?

The SNP responsible for the death of people, my oh my.

SNP Health Secretary Jeane Freeman has been slammed by opponents after admitting her biggest error during the covid pandemic was to move older people from hospital into care homes without proper precautions

Nicola Sturgeon’s Cabinet Secretary for Health made the startling admission in an interview with the BBC’s Nick Robinson.

In a clip released before an upcoming interview Freeman said: “We didn’t take the right precautions to make sure that older people leaving hospital going into care homes were as safe as they could be and that was a mistake.”

Care homes were at the forefront of the battle against coronavirus with some residences reporting dozens of deaths in the early stages of the pandemic when 900 elderly people were transferred untested from hospitals to residential settings.

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It's not really news as NS has already admitted as much unlike BJ who still insists no mistakes were made and any criticism is based solely  on hindsight...

4 hours ago, faraway saint said:

I'm really surprised :rolleyes: no one had reported this startling admission?

The SNP responsible for the death of people, my oh my.

SNP Health Secretary Jeane Freeman has been slammed by opponents after admitting her biggest error during the covid pandemic was to move older people from hospital into care homes without proper precautions

Nicola Sturgeon’s Cabinet Secretary for Health made the startling admission in an interview with the BBC’s Nick Robinson.

In a clip released before an upcoming interview Freeman said: “We didn’t take the right precautions to make sure that older people leaving hospital going into care homes were as safe as they could be and that was a mistake.”

Care homes were at the forefront of the battle against coronavirus with some residences reporting dozens of deaths in the early stages of the pandemic when 900 elderly people were transferred untested from hospitals to residential settings.

 

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So it seems BJs claim of Capitalism/Greed riding onto the scene like the 7th Cavalry to save the world from Covid were untrue and that 97% of the funding for the Astro/Zeneca vaccine was publicly sourced - ah the benefits of accounting, or ahem, hindsight. Perhaps Boris was correct to say "Fuck Business" after all. :rolleyes:

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At least 97% of the funding for the development of the Oxford/AstraZeneca Covid-19 vaccine has been identified as coming from taxpayers or charitable trusts, according to the first attempt to reconstruct who paid for the decades of research that led to the lifesaving formulation.

“We need to stop perpetuating the narrative in which the private sector and profit are the sole drivers of innovation, and recognise that the life-saving ChAdOx vaccine technology was developed with near total governmental and charitable funding,” the researchers said.

“Our study shows that quite the opposite is true: public investment and international collaboration gave us the Covid-19 vaccines,” the team of researchers, from the advocacy group Universities Allied for Essential Medicines UK, said in a statement.

Throw in that the government's agreement to underwrite any claims against vaccine suppliers and you see how little the capitalist model offers in times of adversity. Oh well onwards & downwards as we cheer the end of Lockdown & prepare for the return to Austerity followed by the inevitable economic crash. With any luck I'll be dead before the  one after that. :death

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19 hours ago, faraway saint said:

I'm really surprised :rolleyes: no one had reported this startling admission?

The SNP responsible for the death of people, my oh my.

SNP Health Secretary Jeane Freeman has been slammed by opponents after admitting her biggest error during the covid pandemic was to move older people from hospital into care homes without proper precautions

Nicola Sturgeon’s Cabinet Secretary for Health made the startling admission in an interview with the BBC’s Nick Robinson.

In a clip released before an upcoming interview Freeman said: “We didn’t take the right precautions to make sure that older people leaving hospital going into care homes were as safe as they could be and that was a mistake.”

Care homes were at the forefront of the battle against coronavirus with some residences reporting dozens of deaths in the early stages of the pandemic when 900 elderly people were transferred untested from hospitals to residential settings.

I actually commented in relation to it a couple of weeks ago.

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On 3/31/2021 at 3:03 PM, faraway saint said:

The king of irony, who is known for a few things, one of them is people living off the state and not taking responsibility for their own life.

Never mind, keep it up, you do make me laugh, at you. 😂

 Many artists in the past chose to live on benefits long term. One example is KT Tunstall admitting she had been on the dole for 9 years before finding musical success. This is what she said

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"I chose to stay on the dole so I could be a musician. It took nine years but I never stopped believing. I knew I couldn’t take a job even as a waitress because I had to put all my time and energy into writing, making music, doing little gigs. Between the ages of 21 and 28, all I had was my dole cheque of £52 a week. I remember very clearly not having the money for a 26p stamp and another time I put on a balaclava while my boyfriend at the time pinched some broccoli from a farmer’s field. My mum still hasn’t forgiven me for that."

Actually fuck it get the workshy bastards shot...:fire

Pedant Alert:  21  28 is only 7 years 

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10 hours ago, Bud the Baker said:

 Many artists in the past chose to live on benefits long term. One example is KT Tunstall admitting she had been on the dole for 9 years before finding musical success. This is what she said

I knew I couldn’t take a job even as a waitress because I had to put all my time and energy into writing, making music, doing little gigs. Between the ages of 21 and 28, all I had was my dole cheque of £52 a week. 

Actually fuck it get the workshy bastards shot...:fire

Pedant Alert:  21  28 is only 7 years 

I'm sure she could have managed 10 to 15 hours of part time work without killing her music career.

It's one thing to spend 9 years on the dole. It's another to bullshit about why you did that.

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