FTOF Posted January 28, 2022 Report Share Posted January 28, 2022 9 minutes ago, BuddieinEK said: Which is totally wrong. Major change should depend on an overwhelmingly majority being in favour... 70% or thereabouts! Otherwise, the discontentment and infighting continues. If it is overwhelming and democratic... There is no argument. Sent from my HD1913 using Tapatalk How would that work for general elections? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted January 28, 2022 Report Share Posted January 28, 2022 Just now, faraway saint said: Want a bet on independence? I don't bet. As you may have guessed from my disparaging posts on the betting thread. Looks like Keir agrees with me. Keir Starmer says Boris Johnson 'undermining the case for the Union' - BBC News Lovely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddieinEK Posted January 28, 2022 Report Share Posted January 28, 2022 How would that work for general elections?It wouldn't have to.That's about effectively management, not change on much larger scale. Sent from my HD1913 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted January 28, 2022 Report Share Posted January 28, 2022 24 minutes ago, FTOF said: I don't bet. As you may have guessed from my disparaging posts on the betting thread. Looks like Keir agrees with me. Keir Starmer says Boris Johnson 'undermining the case for the Union' - BBC News Lovely. Keir 😆😆😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slarti Posted January 28, 2022 Report Share Posted January 28, 2022 Which is totally wrong.Major change should depend on an overwhelmingly majority being in favour... 70% or thereabouts!Otherwise, the discontentment and infighting continues. If it is overwhelming and democratic... There is no argument.Sent from my HD1913 using TapatalkThere would always be arguments, even if just one person voted for the losing side. [emoji1787] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted January 28, 2022 Report Share Posted January 28, 2022 14 minutes ago, Slarti said: There would always be arguments, even if just one person voted for the losing side. There's always another chance for another referendum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callum Gilhooley Posted January 28, 2022 Report Share Posted January 28, 2022 Would have been so different if we’d gone with the original result and we were well on our way to being an independent Nation rather than the powers at be declaring it null & void and hanging on for a replay . We could actually have been a relatively well off Nation by now instead of part of a bullshit so called “Union” which is currently over £2 trillion in debt and rising, governed by a corrupt Westminster old boys network . But hey -ho , best of three it is then. 🤷♂️ Let’s see what Project fear #2 looks like . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted January 28, 2022 Report Share Posted January 28, 2022 25 minutes ago, Callum Gilhooley said: Would have been so different if we’d gone with the original result and we were well on our way to being an independent Nation rather than the powers at be declaring it null & void and hanging on for a replay . We could actually have been a relatively well off Nation by now instead of part of a bullshit so called “Union” which is currently over £2 trillion in debt and rising, governed by a corrupt Westminster old boys network . But hey -ho , best of three it is then. 🤷♂️ Let’s see what Project fear #2 looks like . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callum Gilhooley Posted January 28, 2022 Report Share Posted January 28, 2022 1 hour ago, faraway saint said: https://www.nbim.no/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted January 28, 2022 Report Share Posted January 28, 2022 23 minutes ago, Callum Gilhooley said: https://www.nbim.no/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rascal Posted January 29, 2022 Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 (edited) Democracy and free speech. Not a bad combination. Self determination is surely a democratic right for any country as the “English Nationalists” showed when they voted to leave the Union that was the EU. What’s right for one country is right for the other surely when it comes to making such a choice regarding self government and which union Scotland may want to be part of, or not. Edited January 29, 2022 by Rascal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted January 29, 2022 Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 9 hours ago, Callum Gilhooley said: Would have been so different if we’d gone with the original result and we were well on our way to being an independent Nation rather than the powers at be declaring it null & void and hanging on for a replay . We could actually have been a relatively well off Nation by now instead of part of a bullshit so called “Union” which is currently over £2 trillion in debt and rising, governed by a corrupt Westminster old boys network . But hey -ho , best of three it is then. 🤷♂️ Let’s see what Project fear #2 looks like . This article lays out the pro's and cons. Doesn't seem to be clear either way TBH. I've said before when this debate was "raging" that whatever happens happens, won't bother me one way or the other, I do enjoy the angst and anger from some. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-55921961 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazil85 Posted January 29, 2022 Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 15 hours ago, BuddieinEK said: Which is totally wrong. Major change should depend on an overwhelmingly majority being in favour... 70% or thereabouts! Otherwise, the discontentment and infighting continues. If it is overwhelming and democratic... There is no argument. Sent from my HD1913 using Tapatalk If 53% support isn’t enough to break the union, 47% support certainly isn’t enough to retain it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddieinEK Posted January 29, 2022 Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 If 53% support isn’t enough to break the union, 47% support certainly isn’t enough to retain it. [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]Sent from my HD1913 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazil85 Posted January 29, 2022 Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 1 hour ago, BuddieinEK said: Sent from my HD1913 using Tapatalk Good contribution there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddieinEK Posted January 29, 2022 Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 Good contribution there. More meaningful than yours [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]Sent from my HD1913 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted January 29, 2022 Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 Aye, playing with livelihoods to try to prove a point....................backfired. https://uk.yahoo.com/news/scotland-played-politics-pandemic-lost-202916484.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callum Gilhooley Posted January 29, 2022 Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 8 minutes ago, faraway saint said: Aye, playing with livelihoods to try to prove a point....................backfired. https://uk.yahoo.com/news/scotland-played-politics-pandemic-lost-202916484.html f**k me !! A piece by Tory / unionist puppet Alan cochrane which has a pop at devolved government 😂. Is this The same Alan cochrane who played his part in project fear ? 😂 I’m sure you won’t mind if I treat his slabberings like something I had tread in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted January 29, 2022 Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 1 minute ago, Callum Gilhooley said: f**k me !! A piece by Tory / unionist puppet Alan cochrane which has a pop at devolved government 😂. Is this The same Alan cochrane who played his part in project fear ? 😂 I’m sure you won’t mind if I treat his slabberings like something I had tread in. I don't mind at all. I await more bitter and twisted points over the next year or so as the desperate nationalists become more rabid by the day. 😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callum Gilhooley Posted January 29, 2022 Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 Just now, faraway saint said: I don't mind at all. I await more bitter and twisted points over the next year or so as the desperate nationalists become more rabid by the day. 😆 I don’t see how pointing out that the link you provided was from an avid unionist who was pro union and anti Indy in the 2014 referendum can be considered bitter , twisted or rabid. Would you agree that this particular politically active “journalist” might be just a tad biased ? 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddieinEK Posted January 29, 2022 Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 Aye, playing with livelihoods to try to prove a point....................backfired. https://uk.yahoo.com/news/scotland-played-politics-pandemic-lost-202916484.htmlIn one week, the official stance of the Scottish Government went from...We are easing restrictions but COVID is still a real danger and people should work from home wherever possible...Via...We are going to look at the possibility of encouraging hybrid working and will be talking to employers....To...From this Monday, people should return to working from the office wherever possible!You couldn't make it up! [emoji850]Yet it is all science based?Has science changed that much in just one week?Sent from my HD1913 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted January 29, 2022 Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 1 minute ago, Callum Gilhooley said: I don’t see how pointing out that the link you provided was from an avid unionist who was pro union and anti Indy in the 2014 referendum can be considered bitter , twisted or rabid. Would you agree that this particular politically active “journalist” might be just a tad biased ? 🤷♂️ I never said you and, I, clearly said, in the next year or so, Irrespective of the writers bias, to write off the facts is, as expected, a common tactic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted January 29, 2022 Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 Just now, BuddieinEK said: In one week, the official stance of the Scottish Government went from... We are easing restrictions but COVID is still a real danger and people should work from home wherever possible... Via... We are going to look at the possibility of encouraging hybrid working and will be talking to employers.... To... From this Monday, people should return to working from the office wherever possible! You couldn't make it up! Yet it is all science based? Has science changed that much in just one week? Sent from my HD1913 using Tapatalk Aye, science, political games more like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddieinEK Posted January 29, 2022 Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 Aye, science, political games more like. Awww feck....*Swallows deeply...(Self loathing starting now)I agree with you!Sent from my HD1913 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted January 29, 2022 Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 Just now, BuddieinEK said: Awww feck.... *Swallows deeply... You'll be used to that. 😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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