The Politics Thread

[faraway saint]

Happy 10th anniversary. 🤣🤣🤣

[stlucifer]

Dirty red, tory Bassas.

Let's get this straight.

IF the so called Labour government CHOOSE to freeze tax thresholds, it IS raising taxes on working people. Working, low paid workers WILL pay more tax. If you pay more tax, you've suffered a tax rise. Your tax has risen.

No amount of semantics will change that fact.

They will have lied in their manifesto.

Edited October 19, 2024 by stlucifer

[shull]

 

[beyond our ken]

1 hour ago, shull said:

 

2nd and 3rd bottom in column 2, Male and female.  The approach seems to be parallel to the World Health Orgainsation

"Gender interacts with but is different from sex, which refers to the different biological and physiological characteristics of females, males and intersex persons, such as chromosomes, hormones and reproductive organs. Gender and sex are related to but different from gender identity. Gender identity refers to a person’s deeply felt, internal and individual experience of gender, which may or may not correspond to the person’s physiology or designated sex at birth."

My view, why do people get so uptight about this?  being a "man" or a "woman" doesn't happen at birth.  They are references to the state of physical maturity of human males and females.  There are misleading notions around being a man in society, such as you are not a man until you have sex or you start drinking, etc.

Thanks Shull for flagging up this negative reporting on a wholly reasonable approach.

[faraway saint]

A bit of a mixed bag on yesterday's budget.

As usual the normal bickering from other parties about this, that and the other.

An increase of over £3 billion to Scotland which, no doubt, won't be enough and will see no improvement for most of us. 

[Hunterian]

On 10/19/2024 at 5:36 PM, stlucifer said:

Dirty red, tory Bassas.

Let's get this straight.

IF the so called Labour government CHOOSE to freeze tax thresholds, it IS raising taxes on working people. Working, low paid workers WILL pay more tax. If you pay more tax, you've suffered a tax rise. Your tax has risen.

No amount of semantics will change that fact.

They will have lied in their manifesto.

I can’t believe that a Politician has lied.

[shull]

Kemi Badekoch is the new Leader of the Conservative Party.

[eastlandssaint]

Truss was preparing for Putin to fire nuclear weapons, new book claims

[faraway saint]

The cost to build a replacement jail for Barlinnie is, wait for it, a staggering £1 BILLION 🙄

Initially it was, albeit a smaller version, supposed to be £100 million. 

Let's sit back and watch this spiralling out of control. 

[faraway saint]

I've noticed a considerable growth in support for Reform UK on various social media platforms, more so in the business sector. 

Mainly down to disenchanted voters who are fed up with all the traditional parties. 

Even with Farage in charge, which is a concern for many, their common sense approaches to many aspects of life and business is proving to be popular. 

https://yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/51474-what-is-attracting-24-of-britons-to-reform-uk

Edited February 7, 2025 by faraway saint

[Albanian Buddy]

On 2/5/2025 at 6:44 PM, faraway saint said:

The cost to build a replacement jail for Barlinnie is, wait for it, a staggering £1 BILLION 🙄

Initially it was, albeit a smaller version, supposed to be £100 million. 

Let's sit back and watch this spiralling out of control. 

Well let’s hope it’s not the contractors involved in the Paisley museum renovation. As the cost will go up and delays will be inevitable.

 

[faraway saint]

13 minutes ago, Albanian Buddy said:

Well let’s hope it’s not the contractors involved in the Paisley museum renovation. As the cost will go up and delays will be inevitable.

 

It seems, and I'm sure there are some projects by government or local authorities that are on time and cost, that when things go wrong there are no consequences and the spiraling costs are picked up by the tax payers. 

Incompetence is becoming the new norm across most services these days. 

PS on the new Barlinnie, Swinnie got roasted yesterday when it was pointed out the levels of stupidity on some of the facilities that will be in this 5 star facility. 

Edited February 7, 2025 by faraway saint

[alanb]

2 hours ago, Albanian Buddy said:

Well let’s hope it’s not the contractors involved in the Paisley museum renovation. As the cost will go up and delays will be inevitable.

 

I noticed a company logo on the barrier around the museum site when it started to be renovated 

It was the same company who were the principal contractor on a new site in the south side near Hampden

The project overran and went over budget 

It was a cash cow for the sub contractors who had no incentive to finish and commission the plant on schedule 

The principal contractor went bust in 2022 so at least they won’t be involved 

I know I was there as an employee of the company whose plant was delayed 

Edited February 7, 2025 by alanb

[Albanian Buddy]

Regards the museum renovations….am I correct that Notre Dame after the fire was rebuilt in less time?

[faraway saint]

15 minutes ago, Albanian Buddy said:

Regards the museum renovations….am I correct that Notre Dame after the fire was rebuilt in less time?

Comparing apples and oranges. 

The cost to rebuild Notre Dana was in the region of £750m 

The museum is costing a reported £65m

Now I agree £65m is a big bag of money but for some comparison the council up here decided to remove the dual carriageway running through the centre of the town to build, wait for it, bike lanes costing an eye watering £14m

The centre of town has been in chaos for close on a year and it's projected to be completed by September this year. 

 

 

 

[Albanian Buddy]

1 hour ago, faraway saint said:

Comparing apples and oranges. 

The cost to rebuild Notre Dana was in the region of £750m 

The museum is costing a reported £65m

Now I agree £65m is a big bag of money but for some comparison the council up here decided to remove the dual carriageway running through the centre of the town to build, wait for it, bike lanes costing an eye watering £14m

The centre of town has been in chaos for close on a year and it's projected to be completed by September this year. 

 

 

 

It was meant as a joke. 😂 
However taking it a step further ND has 12million visitors in a year and charge for entry so it’s easily money well spent.

Still it’s better our council kept it going as a public museum rather than turning it into an HMO.

 

 

[faraway saint]

A Labour MP been binned after numerous out of order messages posted on a group chat. 

As I've said for yonks, every political party has its fair share of absolute wallopers.

 

[faraway saint]

Scottish parliament voted in favour, at this stage, of assisted dying. 

A complicated and difficult decision for many. 

Personally I'm in favour. 

[stlucifer]

So the labour party has drawn the batle lines saying it's now a straight choice between Kidstarver or the fascistfarage. Talk about worser and worsest(sic).

Luckily Scotland has another choice.

 

[stlucifer]

Reform. The people's party? Don't make me 🤣🤣

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[stlucifer]

Following Press Secretary Leavitt’s stunning response to French MEP Raphaël Glucksmann’s statement that France should reclaim the Statue of Liberty because the US no longer upholds its original values, Glucksmann doubled down last night.

Dear Americans,

Since the White House press secretary is attacking me today, I wanted to tell you this:

1. Our two people are intimately linked by History, the blood we shed and the passion for freedom we share, a passion symbolized by this Statue that was offered to the United States by France to honor your glorious Revolution.

2. As the press secretary for this shameful Administration said: without your nation, France would have "spoken German." In my case, it goes further: I would simply not be here if hundreds of thousands of young Americans had not landed on our beaches in Normandy.

3. Our gratitude to these heroes and their sacrifices is therefore eternal.

4. But the America of these heroes fought against tyrants, it did not flatter them. It was the enemy of fascism, not the friend of Putin. It helped the resistance and didn't attack Zelensky.

5. It celebrated science and didn't fire researchers for using banned words. It welcomed the persecuted and didn't target them.

It was far, so far from what your current President does, says, and embodies.

6. This America, faithful to the wonderful words inscribed on the Statue of Liberty, your America, is worth so much more than the betrayal of Ukraine and Europe, xenophobia, or obscurantism.

7. We all in Europe love this nation to which we know we owe so much. It will rise again. You will rise again. We are counting on you.

8. And it is precisely because I am petrified by Trump’s betrayal that I said yesterday in a rally that we could symbolically take back the Statue of Liberty if your government despised everything it symbolizes in your eyes, ours, and those of the world.

It was a wake up call.

9. No one, of course, will come and steal the Statue of Liberty.

The statue is yours. But what it embodies belongs to everyone.

And if the free world no longer interests your government, then we will take up the torch, here in Europe.

10. Until we meet again in the fight for freedom and dignity, we will be the continuators of our shared history and the protectors of our treasure: more than a statue of copper and steel, the freedom it symbolizes.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[stlucifer]

The shadow energy secretary was on the BBC this morning telling the everyone that the tories were going to (circa), drill baby drill. When the presenter suggested that there was only five years of oil left in Scottish waters he replied, "No one actually believes there is so little".

Well. Lots of people were fooled when those unionist politicians told them that Scotland couldn't be an independent nation as the SNP were lying about how much more oil there was when we were asked to choose our destiny.

Now they are determined to drain every last drop of Scotland's wealth from right under our noses.

Independence isn't just wanted. It's needed and imperative.

[eastlandssaint]

Angela Rayner steps down over stamp duty row