St.Ricky Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 A number of threads have posts which mention that the club needs to reinvent itself and reconnect with the fans, town and wider community. What would you see as the ultimate but realistic mission for the club we support. By way of example the mission for Stirling Albion, a fan owned club with a smaller fan base, is to become the highest ranked part-time team in Scotland, or so I am told. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eaglesham saint Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 Dumbarton are and have been the highest ranked part time team for a few years by being in the Championship Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Ricky Posted September 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 (edited) Excellent point Eaglesham but Stirling Albion's mission is to reach that position and if you like then, overtake them. What would you suggest for a future Mission for Saints? Edited September 13, 2016 by St.Ricky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 To win a f**king league game at some point . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Ricky Posted September 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 Elvis. True. But what in the longer term? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 Champions League winners and nothing less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendo Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 27 minutes ago, St.Ricky said: Elvis. True. But what in the longer term? To win two games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Ricky Posted September 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 I love it Kendo but same question -what should be the long term mission (in your opinion)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Dickson Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 The clubs got to be better than it is now. More professional in everything it does, better at being the centre of the community, focused at driving up standards on and off the park and doing much more to increase the visibility and reputation of the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isle Of Bute Saint Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 Nothing major will happen unless you have a team that can compete on that we have been uncompetitive since the league cup win. That's a long time even for the hard core. Giving out free tickets won't bring in larger crowds punters won't turn up given our results. Once you have a team that can compete that is when you work on the wider community. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eaglesham saint Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 Our reasonable expectations are Premier League, Top 6 occasionally .a cup run every now and again, I am afraid some of our fans are delusional about where we lie in the greater scheme of Scottish football. We are no bigger than Dunfermline,Falkirk ,our aim should be St Johnstone, having a good few years in the top 6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isle Of Bute Saint Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 Our reasonable expectations are Premier League, Top 6 occasionally .a cup run every now and again, I am afraid some of our fans are delusional about where we lie in the greater scheme of Scottish football. We are no bigger than Dunfermline,Falkirk ,our aim should be St Johnstone, having a good few years in the top 6. Would not say our fans are delusional for me we are realistic in the most part. We will bounce back up again but will take the best part of a decade going by our past history. Our reasonable expectations are Premier League, Top 6 occasionally .a cup run every now and again, I am afraid some of our fans are delusional about where we lie in the greater scheme of Scottish football. We are no bigger than Dunfermline,Falkirk ,our aim should be St Johnstone, having a good few years in the top 6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norrie82 Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 Isle of bute nailed it. Without a successful first team everything else is pointless. Look at us at present crowds dwindling away support decimated why? Because the product is poor. Put a team together like tom Hendrie did as an example and you have people following the team home and away, a feelgood factor returns and we start to be successful off the park also. At present we are declining and it's not reached the bottom yet. This team had no heart and nobody ready to drag it out of the mire. On Saturday we were three one Dow and I saw nothing no desire just a bunch of players going thro the motions. They don't believe in themselves and I am v fearful for this season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 7 minutes ago, norrie82 said: Isle of bute nailed it. Without a successful first team everything else is pointless. Look at us at present crowds dwindling away support decimated why? Because the product is poor. Put a team together like tom Hendrie did as an example and you have people following the team home and away, a feelgood factor returns and we start to be successful off the park also. At present we are declining and it's not reached the bottom yet. This team had no heart and nobody ready to drag it out of the mire. On Saturday we were three one Dow and I saw nothing no desire just a bunch of players going thro the motions. They don't believe in themselves and I am v fearful for this season What, exactly, do you think our crowds would be if we achieved this "success" as I believe our attendances would only marginally increase, as football has limited popularity. It's very unlikely droves (whatever that really means) of people would regularly turn up to watch St Mirren. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garzo Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 Purpose - to play competitive professional football in the Scottish football league and cup competitions at the highest level attainable and to fulfil our community and business objectives. Mission - St Mirren football club aim to be the highest ranked non city football club in Scotland. (should aim as high as possible - Realistically - stating as a first step to be highest ranked non city club in Scotland before adjusting this to highest ranked outside of Glasgow, then highest ranked, if you see where I'm going) Then there's those goals and objectives - no harm in setting these out to include cup wins, top 6 in top league, stability of employment, training, qualified coaches, community engagement with local boys clubs, international caps at U 21 and full level etc... lots and lots and lots of stuff to measure and improve - consistent home crowds of 4000, the 4500, then 5000... Then setting out specific actions to make all of this happen - I'm sure someone is already on top of all of this though ;-) Needs a bit of work ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norrie82 Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 Saints had 5,000 in premier league attending games. That's gone we now have 2700 home fans and many of them ain't even going. Face facts without a good first team the rest is irrelevant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norrie82 Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 Under Hendrie 5,000 and Lennon also. I think 5,000 at every home game is a success. It won't happen unless we start winning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottd Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 We didn't manage 5000 home fans in our Premier days. Visiting support tended to skew the numbers upwards. Things are bad at the moment but the past wasn't as rosy as some would have you believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antrin Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 2 hours ago, faraway saint said: What, exactly, do you think our crowds would be if we achieved this "success" as I believe our attendances would only marginally increase, as football has limited popularity. It's very unlikely droves (whatever that really means) of people would regularly turn up to watch St Mirren. If the fitba was good enough, they'd be running coaches from bizarre, outlandish places such as Ecclefechan, Dounby and Arbroath... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 2 minutes ago, antrin said: If the fitba was good enough, they'd be running coaches from bizarre, outlandish places such as Ecclefechan, Dounby and Arbroath... No, "they" really wouldn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antrin Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 Just now, faraway saint said: No, "they" really wouldn't. They would. It would be the swankiest supporters bus in Britain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 9 minutes ago, scottd said: We didn't manage 5000 home fans in our Premier days. Visiting support tended to skew the numbers upwards. Things are bad at the moment but the past wasn't as rosy as some would have you believe. What he said Norrie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 33 minutes ago, scottd said: We didn't manage 5000 home fans in our Premier days. Visiting support tended to skew the numbers upwards. Things are bad at the moment but the past wasn't as rosy as some would have you believe. Whilst you are correct, what we managed in the past is irrelevant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norrie82 Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 5,000 at games regardless of home fans was decent. I think we should be aiming for this achievable target again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norrie82 Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 Scott tom Hendries team and macphersons team was a zillion times better than this pish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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