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3 minutes ago, santaponsasaint said:

Does mean he has resigned from our supporters bus. He not told me or burnsy yet emoji1787.pngemoji1787.pngemoji1787.pngemoji1787.png

Just make sure you’ve got his membership fee in😂I’ll take his seat 😝😂

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2 hours ago, oaksoft said:

If it was aimed at Ross I'd have expected some childish foot stamping about this happening before we got a chance to replace Kyle.

This is the board's decision. Period. And they need to own that decision. They could easily have kept him until the end of the season but it made no financial sense to do so. This was a financial decision not a footballing one. Whoever wrote that needs to grow the hell up.

It clearly WASN'T a financial decision. It's just as clear that Kyle wanted the move. There would have been no point locking him in for the rest of his contract and having a dissatisfied, probably, unmotivated player who could have upset the dressing room. It would have been hard for Magennis to ignore the chance to join a bigger club with a higher salary and, as it turned out, a longer contract. I'm not enamoured by the club statement but I'm also not jumping to conclusions as to the reasons behind it. The club needed to make it plain it wasn't their decision and you're calling them, or at least the author, liars without proof.

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Is it possible that he was happy to finish the season but said he was planning to join hibs at the end of the season. St mirren decide to paint a half truth that he wanted to leave after they spat the dummy and sold him.

 

Seems possible to me. 

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It clearly WASN'T a financial decision. It's just as clear that Kyle wanted the move. There would have been no point locking him in for the rest of his contract and having a dissatisfied, probably, unmotivated player who could have upset the dressing room. It would have been hard for Magennis to ignore the chance to join a bigger club with a higher salary and, as it turned out, a longer contract. I'm not enamoured by the club statement but I'm also not jumping to conclusions as to the reasons behind it. The club needed to make it plain it wasn't their decision and you're calling them, or at least the author, liars without proof.

Kyle's family have already said they are liars on another social media platform. So who are the liars. The club or the Magennis family. I know who I believe.  

 

 

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Kyle's family have already said they are liars on another social media platform. So who are the liars. The club or the Magennis family. I know who I believe.   
 
What parts of the club's statement are they saying are lies?

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1 hour ago, stlucifer said:

It clearly WASN'T a financial decision. It's just as clear that Kyle wanted the move. There would have been no point locking him in for the rest of his contract and having a dissatisfied, probably, unmotivated player who could have upset the dressing room. It would have been hard for Magennis to ignore the chance to join a bigger club with a higher salary and, as it turned out, a longer contract. I'm not enamoured by the club statement but I'm also not jumping to conclusions as to the reasons behind it. The club needed to make it plain it wasn't their decision and you're calling them, or at least the author, liars without proof.

We got a fair turn out of players like Kirk Broadfoot, Lewis Morgan and Vaclav Hladky in the past even when they were heading elsewhere.

I see no reason that we wouldn’t have got exactly the same commitment from Magennis. Especially with the type of player he is, length of service & family ties to the club. 

There were basically 3 outcomes available:

1) Sign new 4 year deal

2) See out contract 

3) Sell the player 

 

The player apparently (reasonably) didn’t want the new contract so that ruled out option 1.  The club then seemingly had a choice to make and went for option 3.  

If the player didn’t ask for the move then it’s a financial decision from the club.  

The club had control out of 2/3 outcomes but their nose seems out of joint that the 1 outcome they apparently wanted (to sign a new deal) wasn’t agreeable - and that’s just tough luck!! The player has no obligation to sign! 

Good luck to him. 

 

The real irritating bit of the story for fans is where they’ve obviously publicly played up that they’re rejecting the bid - only to then accept an offer days later. Clear as day they were just haggling as many feared at the time. 

You also wonder to what extent they’ve strung the manager along. 

If I’d had the option I’d just have retained the player for the season. It makes you wonder about desperation for cash.

The only other way selling now would make sense is if there’s a McGinn-esque sell-on clause secured but I don’t think that would bear the same fruit as McGinn. Time will tell. 

 

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1 hour ago, Maboza said:

We got a fair turn out of players like Kirk Broadfoot, Lewis Morgan and Vaclav Hladky in the past even when they were heading elsewhere.

I see no reason that we wouldn’t have got exactly the same commitment from Magennis. Especially with the type of player he is, length of service & family ties to the club. 

There were basically 3 outcomes available:

1) Sign new 4 year deal

2) See out contract 

3) Sell the player 

 

The player apparently (reasonably) didn’t want the new contract so that ruled out option 1.  The club then seemingly had a choice to make and went for option 3.  

If the player didn’t ask for the move then it’s a financial decision from the club.  

The club had control out of 2/3 outcomes but their nose seems out of joint that the 1 outcome they apparently wanted (to sign a new deal) wasn’t agreeable - and that’s just tough luck!! The player has no obligation to sign! 

Good luck to him. 

 

The real irritating bit of the story for fans is where they’ve obviously publicly played up that they’re rejecting the bid - only to then accept an offer days later. Clear as day they were just haggling as many feared at the time. 

You also wonder to what extent they’ve strung the manager along. 

If I’d had the option I’d just have retained the player for the season. It makes you wonder about desperation for cash.

The only other way selling now would make sense is if there’s a McGinn-esque sell-on clause secured but I don’t think that would bear the same fruit as McGinn. Time will tell. 

 

No one said he asked for the move. IF the player didn't want the move after finding out about it then your opinion of how his last 7 months would go could stand up. The club said, once he knew of the interest, he drove the narrative. IF that is the case then I doubt we would have seen a player willing to go the extra mile as those mentioned. The two sides are blaming each other. I'm saying I choose not to jump on the bandwagon firing blame at the club with no real evidence.

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Time for my tuppence worth.

 

When Tony the tache took the helm he specifically stated that we would no longer be selling off our prized young assets for less than they were worth.  Well that was a f**king lie was it not?

Kyle Magennis was only 21yrs old and the Captain of an SPFL club. To sell him to a league rival for so much less than an acceptable value was beyond amateur. I am coming round rapidly to SPS's assertions that we are indeed a poorly run club.  Would Hibs have been able to strip a similar asset from St Johnstone, Kilmarnock or Motherwell so cheaply?  

He was the clubs player and it was ultimately the clubs decision to sell.  The same old pish is rolled out as it is every time we cash in (cheaply) on one of our assets.  We don't want an unhappy player, the players head was turned when that happens we could do nothing, he could have went for free in the summer. Such statements question the professionalism of the player and I don't doubt young Kyles professionalism for one moment.  I do question the professionalism and integrity of Gordon Scott and Tony the much admired tache.  I question those stupid remarks about top six.  You see top six isn't that fanciful, it really isn't.  The top six however will forever be beyond our grasp whilst we continue to flog such talent for next to f**k all.  No amount of pish spouting from immediately below Tony's tache will change that, progress is beyond our club and it will remain beyond the club whilst we continue in this cycle of producing and selling to our rivals (for next to f**k all as well).

 

If you want to see the success of our clubs football academy then I suggest you get a season ticket for HIbs,

HIbs now boast a McGinn, a Mallan, another McGinn and now a Magennis (not to mention the Naismith that's just away back from his loan).  How we could use these players now. 

 

But cheer up lads and lassies, the board love you and have already looked after us.  We have signed two loan players so lets all forget about being nothing more than a highly successful feeder club.   These loan players are the future and will be just brilliant and we will all be happy. 

 

Our loyalty is always tested but we are venturing way beyond the point where those in power at the club are ripping the absolute pish out of those who parted with hard earned cash for season tickets. 

 

 

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28 minutes ago, TediousTom said:

Time for my tuppence worth.

 

When Tony the tache took the helm he specifically stated that we would no longer be selling off our prized young assets for less than they were worth.  Well that was a f**king lie was it not?

Kyle Magennis was only 21yrs old and the Captain of an SPFL club. To sell him to a league rival for so much less than an acceptable value was beyond amateur. I am coming round rapidly to SPS's assertions that we are indeed a poorly run club.  Would Hibs have been able to strip a similar asset from St Johnstone, Kilmarnock or Motherwell so cheaply?  

He was the clubs player and it was ultimately the clubs decision to sell.  The same old pish is rolled out as it is every time we cash in (cheaply) on one of our assets.  We don't want an unhappy player, the players head was turned when that happens we could do nothing, he could have went for free in the summer. Such statements question the professionalism of the player and I don't doubt young Kyles professionalism for one moment.  I do question the professionalism and integrity of Gordon Scott and Tony the much admired tache.  I question those stupid remarks about top six.  You see top six isn't that fanciful, it really isn't.  The top six however will forever be beyond our grasp whilst we continue to flog such talent for next to f**k all.  No amount of pish spouting from immediately below Tony's tache will change that, progress is beyond our club and it will remain beyond the club whilst we continue in this cycle of producing and selling to our rivals (for next to f**k all as well).

 

If you want to see the success of our clubs football academy then I suggest you get a season ticket for HIbs,

HIbs now boast a McGinn, a Mallan, another McGinn and now a Magennis (not to mention the Naismith that's just away back from his loan).  How we could use these players now. 

 

But cheer up lads and lassies, the board love you and have already looked after us.  We have signed two loan players so lets all forget about being nothing more than a highly successful feeder club.   These loan players are the future and will be just brilliant and we will all be happy. 

 

Our loyalty is always tested but we are venturing way beyond the point where those in power at the club are ripping the absolute pish out of those who parted with hard earned cash for season tickets. 

 

 

Ffs he wouldnt sign new contract, is injury prone and would have left end of season. Hasn't played a game and certainly wasn't going be some kind of saviour. Fully back club on this taking money before he walks for nothing....funny how he has turned into Messi all of a sudden...

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14 hours ago, santaponsasaint said:

Kyle's family have already said they are liars on another social media platform. So who are the liars. The club or the Magennis family. I know who I believe.  

 

 

The wee fairies at the bottom of your garden. :)

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Better to have let him go last week or keep him than let him go on the last day of the window , we wouldn't be looking at the "out of contract" market which is more miss than hit - sure we got some extra money on the swings but my guess is we'll lose more on the roundabouts. 

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1 minute ago, portmahomack saint said:

What is kyle saying...  Nothing I bet 

Kyle said something along the lines of when he knew there was an opportunity to move to Hibs, he was excited by it.

I don't blame him for this, bigger club, more money etc, and the club, when it became clear he wanted to move, accepted the offer.

That doesn't mean he did the dirty on us, he made a decision to join Hibs to advance his career, fair enough. However, all this outrage on his behalf, and statements from his family criticizing the board, is bizarre. He was a decent player for us, not a world-beater but decent. He left to further his career, good on him. But please don't portray him as some sort of modern black and white hero.

Personally, I'm more concerned that it appears JG wasn't party to the decision to sell, and that it takes us to the last day of the window to sign defensive reinforcements, and one of them is injured.

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1 minute ago, Hendo said:

Kyle said something along the lines of when he knew there was an opportunity to move to Hibs, he was excited by it.

I don't blame him for this, bigger club, more money etc, and the club, when it became clear he wanted to move, accepted the offer.

That doesn't mean he did the dirty on us, he made a decision to join Hibs to advance his career, fair enough. However, all this outrage on his behalf, and statements from his family criticizing the board, is bizarre. He was a decent player for us, not a world-beater but decent. He left to further his career, good on him. But please don't portray him as some sort of modern black and white hero.

Personally, I'm more concerned that it appears JG wasn't party to the decision to sell, and that it takes us to the last day of the window to sign defensive reinforcements, and one of them is injured.

I'm pretty sure Finlayson & Mason wouldn't have been our targets if we had banked the Magennis money last week.

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13 minutes ago, Hendo said:

Kyle said something along the lines of when he knew there was an opportunity to move to Hibs, he was excited by it.

I don't blame him for this, bigger club, more money etc, and the club, when it became clear he wanted to move, accepted the offer.

That doesn't mean he did the dirty on us, he made a decision to join Hibs to advance his career, fair enough. However, all this outrage on his behalf, and statements from his family criticizing the board, is bizarre. He was a decent player for us, not a world-beater but decent. He left to further his career, good on him. But please don't portray him as some sort of modern black and white hero.

Personally, I'm more concerned that it appears JG wasn't party to the decision to sell, and that it takes us to the last day of the window to sign defensive reinforcements, and one of them is injured.

Some think it's the reverse.  

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16 minutes ago, portmahomack saint said:

What is kyle saying...  Nothing I bet 

Reading between the,sideways,lines I think he’s saying he never wanted to leave.

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