TopCat Posted November 6, 2016 Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 Interesting post this, I've blanked out the guys name but I'm sure most on here will at least know of the fella concerned. Pretty poor show from the club to ban such a loyal supporter for seemingly so little. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whydowebother Posted November 6, 2016 Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 St Mirren are like a puppet show just now.We are assured that things are happening behind the scenes , yet all we are seeing is the dummy's failing to perform on the stage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted November 6, 2016 Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 And the other side of the story is....? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddieinEK Posted November 6, 2016 Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 And the other side of the story is....? f**k... I got excited there when I saw this post at first! Damned app layout! [emoji6] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted November 6, 2016 Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 ^^^^^^^^^^^^ Nice try but this happened at an away game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kombibuddie Posted November 6, 2016 Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 (edited) 5 hours ago, TopCat said: Interesting post this, I've blanked out the guys name but I'm sure most on here will at least know of the fella concerned. Pretty poor show from the club to ban such a loyal supporter for seemingly so little. he appears to have missed the point of admitting he was on the concourse and that action led to him being taken out by police. To my reckoning is an acknowledgement of wrongdoing on his part. I (wrongly) thought it was only rangers & celtic that think their fans can behave however they like without consequence? Edited November 6, 2016 by Kombibuddie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northendsaint Posted November 6, 2016 Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 59 minutes ago, Kombibuddie said: he appears to have missed the point of admitting he was on the concourse and that action led to him being taken out by police. To my reckoning is an acknowledgement of wrongdoing on his part. I (wrongly) thought it was only rangers & celtic that think their fans can behave however they like without consequence? Picture the scenario mate.Its 5 minutes to go and you equalise against your rivals.He along with many others celebrate on the concourse(not having breached the barriers of the stadium).No crime committed.One of his mates does breach the barrier and is arrested.He does not enter the field of play.Josh is then assumed to have obstructed an officer in carrying out his duties in arresting this lad and is led from the ground.He is taken away and dropped off 5 minutes later in Causeyside street without charge.Next thing he gets a letter from the club saying he is banned. Fast forward 4 months and he has still not been charged nor most importantly cleared.The club state that he must have a letter saying he is in the clear but as Josh says the police dont issue such documentation.Result is a stalemate. Josh had been attending the games by paying for a ticket(on top of his season ticket which has been blocked)to attend games.He has done this without problem and has interacted with the stewards thoughout ie speaking to them etc,Rightly or wrongly this football club is his life and all he wanted to do was support his team. Roll on to yesterday and Josh,s nephew is making his home debut.A large contingent of our family attend the game but low and behold Josh is refused entry.Special instructions were given to our security(ie stewards) to refuse him permission to enter the ground.Kyles home debut was like a kids first day at school.It only happens once and his uncle was denied that opportunity to see him make that debut. As such i have to make a decision where i put my family loyalties first.I wont step foot into the ground unless Josh is in front of me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyg Posted November 6, 2016 Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 So he was on the concourse , so what ? I was on the pitch hunners of times in my younger days , in fact , it's only around ten years since our baldy webmaster was on the pitch at Stranraer after a vital goal in the promotion season. The guy concerned is a good guy , with a lot of friends who contribute every month to Smisa , and he helped me a lot with setting up a website for one of our businesses. I would suggest this is not the time for the club to be alienating supporters ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northendsaint Posted November 6, 2016 Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 I should be writing about my nephews boy making his home debut.Gutted aint the word. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyg Posted November 6, 2016 Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 15 minutes ago, northendsaint said: Josh had been attending the games by paying for a ticket(on top of his season ticket which has been blocked)to attend games.He has done this without problem and has interacted with the stewards thoughout ie speaking to them etc,Rightly or wrongly this football club is his life and all he wanted to do was support his team. That's a nonsense btw Ian and shouldn't have been tolerated. There are several imposters involved with the club , but Josh isn't one of them. Some people within the club need to take a long hard look at themselves ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kombibuddie Posted November 6, 2016 Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 4 minutes ago, northendsaint said: Picture the scenario mate.Its 5 minutes to go and you equalise against your rivals.He along with many others celebrate on the concourse(not having breached the barriers of the stadium).No crime committed.One of his mates does breach the barrier and is arrested.He does not enter the field of play.Josh is then assumed to have obstructed an officer in carrying out his duties in arresting this lad and is led from the ground.He is taken away and dropped off 5 minutes later in Causeyside street without charge.Next thing he gets a letter from the club saying he is banned. Fast forward 4 months and he has still not been charged nor most importantly cleared.The club state that he must have a letter saying he is in the clear but as Josh says the police dont issue such documentation.Result is a stalemate. Josh had been attending the games by paying for a ticket(on top of his season ticket which has been blocked)to attend games.He has done this without problem and has interacted with the stewards thoughout ie speaking to them etc,Rightly or wrongly this football club is his life and all he wanted to do was support his team. Roll on to yesterday and Josh,s nephew is making his home debut.A large contingent of our family attend the game but low and behold Josh is refused entry.Special instructions were given to our security(ie stewards) to refuse him permission to enter the ground.Kyles home debut was like a kids first day at school.It only happens once and his uncle was denied that opportunity to see him make that debut. As such i have to make a decision where i put my family loyalties first.I wont step foot into the ground unless Josh is in front of me. I sympathise completely but knowing absolutely nothing about Josh or the circumstances of his "ban", I looked at what he had written. He implies, he shouldn't have been on the concourse as this is why he was "taken out". anyways........... I agree, if he has been getting into matches without issue and the club knew this but let him carry on, I would question Why stop him yesterday and I can certainly sympathise given the significance of the day. If there was a football banning order, would/should this not have been communicated to the club by the police?. BillyG, I agree, this is not the time for The Club to be alienating supporters but St Mirren has a history of f**king things up and from what you and Northendsaint are saying looks like it could be a bit of a f**k-up on the clubs part concerning Josh but we've only got 1 side of the story so far. I wish him all the best and a speedy resolution Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Gingero Posted November 6, 2016 Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 Can you make a personal plea to Tony Fitzpatrick? He claimed no St Mirren fan would be locked out. The honeymoon period is over for the new board and maybe it's getting too cosy in the boardroom. Time for a new SMISA board member to ruffle a few feathers in the boardroom I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northendsaint Posted November 6, 2016 Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 1 minute ago, Kombibuddie said: I sympathise completely but knowing absolutely nothing about Josh or the circumstances of his "ban", I looked at what he had written. He implies, he shouldn't have been on the concourse as this is why he was "taken out". anyways........... I agree, if he has been getting into matches without issue and the club knew this but let him carry on, I would question Why stop him yesterday and I can certainly sympathise given the significance of the day. If there was a football banning order, would/should this not have been communicated to the club by the police?. BillyG, I agree, this is not the time for The Club to be alienating supporters but St Mirren has a history of f**king things up and from what you and Northendsaint are saying looks like it could be a bit of a f**k-up on the clubs part concerning Josh but we've only got 1 side of the story so far. I wish him all the best and a speedy resolution They knew he would be attending yesterday and deliberately set out to target him.What a talent we have in his nephew though.St Mirren may want to put him on a long term contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eaglesham saint Posted November 6, 2016 Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 The important thing of this is that the club are biting the hand that feeds them. Caldwell was a terrific CEO and I guess would not have let this fester so long.now it's become,"them and us" situation He would've had them round a table and heard the whole story. I emailed him to see if my grandson could go to the training ground on his birthday. He was met by Gary Teale who knew his first name. You don't know what your missing till its gone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldfellow Posted November 6, 2016 Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 What is the concourse ? Is it the area between the wall and pitch. If it is , in 50 years I have never felt the need to enter it and wonder why anyone would wish to do so. What age is the person concerned. As he has a nephew in his late teens it seems he may possibly be of a relatively mature age and should know better. Perhaps a warning would have been more appropriate though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northendsaint Posted November 6, 2016 Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 3 minutes ago, Oldfellow said: What is the concourse ? Is it the area between the wall and pitch. If it is , in 50 years I have never felt the need to enter it and wonder why anyone would wish to do so. What age is the person concerned. As he has a nephew in his late teens it seems he may possibly be of a relatively mature age and should know better. Perhaps a warning would have been more appropriate though. The concourse is the area between the seats and the fence.It is where you walk between going for a pee and coming back from a pee.You might even partake in a bovril or a pie while traversing said area.In other words the polis are unlikely to arrest you for walking in said area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted November 6, 2016 Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 1 minute ago, northendsaint said: The concourse is the area between the seats and the fence.It is where you walk between going for a pee and coming back from a pee.You might even partake in a bovril or a pie while traversing said area.In other words the polis are unlikely to arrest you for walking in said area. Aye, totally unnecessary. Surely someone will see sense in this matter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldfellow Posted November 6, 2016 Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 24 minutes ago, Eaglesham saint said: The important thing of this is that the club are biting the hand that feeds them. Caldwell was a terrific CEO and I guess would not have let this fester so long.now it's become,"them and us" situation He would've had them round a table and heard the whole story. I emailed him to see if my grandson could go to the training ground on his birthday. He was met by Gary Teale who knew his first name. You don't know what your missing till its gone Caldwell was indeed an excellent CEO. Regrettably the previous Board as one of their poor decisions appointed someone to succeed him who clearly is out of his depth. I can only assume SG and co presumed the appointment would please fans. Tony was a good footballer and loyal to the club. That doesnt mean he is a good CEO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldfellow Posted November 6, 2016 Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 4 minutes ago, northendsaint said: The concourse is the area between the seats and the fence.It is where you walk between going for a pee and coming back from a pee.You might even partake in a bovril or a pie while traversing said area.In other words the polis are unlikely to arrest you for walking in said area. I am indeed puzzled in that case . Many people would be in that area and not all were thrown out. Methinks I,m missing something here . Perhaps there was concern regarding said gentlemans behaviour on the concourse. I dont know but hope it gets sorted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northendsaint Posted November 6, 2016 Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 We scored a goal.Jeezus.Remember them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munoz Posted November 6, 2016 Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 3 hours ago, Kombibuddie said: he appears to have missed the point of admitting he was on the concourse and that action led to him being taken out by police. To my reckoning is an acknowledgement of wrongdoing on his part. I (wrongly) thought it was only rangers & celtic that think their fans can behave however they like without consequence? Hardly a banning offence in my opinion . The guy in question is Saints daft who follows the team everywhere . He isn't a thug . Very poor show from the club in times like this . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Posted November 6, 2016 Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 Maybe a letter of explanation to Tony and a plea for reconsideration? No-one on here can consider an appeal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skodasaint Posted November 6, 2016 Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 the whole place has went tits up ,if the stewards knew he had paid in to earlier games why not stop him before yesterday .....oh and ps wish the club would ban me from games because watching this drivel is breaking my heart ,hope it gets sorted soon fella Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Posted November 6, 2016 Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 1 hour ago, Oldfellow said: Caldwell was indeed an excellent CEO. Regrettably the previous Board as one of their poor decisions appointed someone to succeed him who clearly is out of his depth. I can only assume SG and co presumed the appointment would please fans. Tony was a good footballer and loyal to the club. That doesnt mean he is a good CEO I did say Tony would be a poor decision and nothing he had done so far has convince me otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
div Posted November 6, 2016 Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 Sounds absolutely crazy, surely must be more to it than just celebrating goal in the concourse, every late goal is celebrated down there? I can certainly offer to speak to Tony & Gordon on behalf of Josh if I thought it might help? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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