proudtobeabuddy Posted December 3, 2016 Report Share Posted December 3, 2016 No hate figure let's not get melodramatic here. He did however cause us to lose this game, we were cruising. Not even sent off for a bad tackle, but a punch! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northstbuddie Posted December 3, 2016 Report Share Posted December 3, 2016 If this is not St Mirren's darkest hour what is?Nothing short of a miracle will save us from relegation to the third tier of Scottish football, which is third rate in itself.On the bright side, things can only get better.Someone was saying to me earlier what a difficult league the Championship is to get out of - however we have disproven that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopCat Posted December 3, 2016 Report Share Posted December 3, 2016 Yet another disastrous day for St Mirren. Was always going to be tough to get a result in Falkirk, we were always likely to lose, but the manner of this defeat definitely makes it hurt a bit more. Especially with both Dunfermline and Dumbarton picking up points.Of course Jack Baird is going to made the scapegoat for today, and by all accounts, rightly so. It goes without saying that our problems run far deeper than our young fourth choice centre half though. He isn't the reason we have just went 16 games (sixteen) without a league win, haven't kept a clean sheet since July and sit marooned at the bottom of the second tier.Jack Ross is now the first Saints manager to lose his first six league games in charge. Tommy Craig also lost his first five but won his sixth. What a horrific record and what a terrible appointment.These are darkest of dark times. We need investment in January and then we need a miracle if we are going to stay up. I have a feeling we are going to see neither and we are not only going to get relegated, but we are going to go down without even putting up a fight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irate-Pirate Posted December 3, 2016 Report Share Posted December 3, 2016 If a Falkirk player had been through one on one and Baird had chopped him down, fair enough.Punching somebody while leading 1-0. FFS? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julian Banjos Posted December 3, 2016 Report Share Posted December 3, 2016 2 penalties in a row missed by Dunfermline at the end of their game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irate-Pirate Posted December 3, 2016 Report Share Posted December 3, 2016 And that should be an exclamation mark not a Fecking question mark. f**k Off!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isle Of Bute Saint Posted December 3, 2016 Report Share Posted December 3, 2016 On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 5:44 PM, DougJamie said: If only it was that simple.............. Wonder what Falkirk are predicting 5,6,7 ? Dumarton won bloody hell we are sinking. What is it with the forum just now. Every time i post the above quote is there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proudtobeabuddy Posted December 3, 2016 Report Share Posted December 3, 2016 1 minute ago, Irate-Pirate said: If a Falkirk player had been through one on one and Baird had chopped him down, fair enough. Punching somebody while leading 1-0. FFS? Exactly he handed Falkirk the advantage on a plate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irate-Pirate Posted December 3, 2016 Report Share Posted December 3, 2016 With a capital "F" !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gc_SMFC Posted December 3, 2016 Report Share Posted December 3, 2016 Jack Baird didn't lose us this game. There's was still 10 men on the pitch with a half to play, in which our complete lack of tactical awareness and mental strength has been exploited. But Baird absolutely deserves to get absolutely slaughtered for his sending off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ McG Posted December 3, 2016 Report Share Posted December 3, 2016 1 minute ago, TopCat said: Yet another disastrous day for St Mirren. Was always going to be tough to get a result in Falkirk, we were always likely to lose, but the manner of this defeat definitely makes it hurt a bit more. Especially with both Dunfermline and Dumbarton picking up points. Of course Jack Baird is going to made the scapegoat for today, and by all accounts, rightly so. It goes without saying that our problems run far deeper than our young fourth choice centre half though. He isn't the reason we have just went 16 games (sixteen) without a league win, haven't kept a clean sheet since July and sit marooned at the bottom of the second tier. Jack Ross is now the first Saints manager to lose his first six league games in charge. Tommy Craig also lost his first five but won his sixth. What a horrific record and what a terrible appointment. These are darkest of dark times. We need investment in January and then we need a miracle if we are going to stay up. I have a feeling we are going to see neither and we are not only going to get relegated, but we are going to go down without even putting up a fight. I'm not sure how you can blame Jack Ross for that defeat today? 1-0 up and cruising then Baird gets sent off for punching somebody? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint in exile Posted December 3, 2016 Report Share Posted December 3, 2016 1 minute ago, proudtobeabuddy said: No hate figure let's not get melodramatic here. Read the posts about him. OK he was stupid at best, but to talk about punting him because of this (and we don't know why he punched Miller) is a total overreaction. If we got shot of every player who has cost us a result this season, we would have nobody left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doonhamer Posted December 3, 2016 Report Share Posted December 3, 2016 8 minutes ago, Dalrybud said: Said before and I'll say it again, Baird is a bomb scare. Needs dropped and then punted at the first opportunity. Christ almighty, Cheesy was better than him. Madness, well intentioned but madness. In the heat of the moment it's easy to say things you regret later but, "Cheesy was better than...."? You'll feel better in the morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanarkshire_Bud Posted December 3, 2016 Report Share Posted December 3, 2016 How many times has Baird been sent off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmckinn Posted December 3, 2016 Report Share Posted December 3, 2016 We have not picked up a league point since the 1st of October. Absolutely shocking stat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norman Posted December 3, 2016 Report Share Posted December 3, 2016 It's easy to blame Jack Baird because in a massive game where we were leading and looking for a win that would have been massive for us, he decided to punch an opponent and put us down to ten men for 50 odd minutes. He's a f**king moron. What chance do we have when these players manage to find new ways to f**k things up every week. Ross needs to clear as many of these shitebags out as possible and replace them with players with even a tiny bit of bottle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBS Posted December 3, 2016 Report Share Posted December 3, 2016 Twice, both times at the Falkirk stadium! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proudtobeabuddy Posted December 3, 2016 Report Share Posted December 3, 2016 We had just won 5-1 on Tuesday and 1-0 up when he got sent off. Our confidence in the league is fragile at best, we needed everyone on the park to get a result against Falkirk who are near the right end of the table. This would have been a great confidence booster. I'm not having the young player excuse either he's had plenty of first team experience, it's not his 2nd top team game or anything like that. He showed poor discipline and should wait a good while for his next top team start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint in exile Posted December 3, 2016 Report Share Posted December 3, 2016 1 minute ago, SBS said: Twice, both times at the Falkirk stadium! Aye, shocking disciplinary record. You'd think he would have learned some restraint from former team mates like Goodwin....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendo Posted December 3, 2016 Report Share Posted December 3, 2016 1 minute ago, norman said: It's easy to blame Jack Baird because in a massive game where we were leading and looking for a win that would have been massive for us, he decided to punch an opponent and put us down to ten men for 50 odd minutes. He's a f**king moron. What chance do we have when these players manage to find new ways to f**k things up every week. Ross needs to clear as many of these shitebags out as possible and replace them with players with even a tiny bit of bottle. Why don't we hang him at the cross. You're asking for the manager to bring in players with bottle, you mean like Goodwin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis Posted December 3, 2016 Report Share Posted December 3, 2016 Looking at the first divison think we might only have Airdrie to worry about . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Sanchez Posted December 3, 2016 Report Share Posted December 3, 2016 You keep waiting for the turning point, despite all the evidence pointing towards it being one of those epically bad seasons that doesn't have a turning point. At least we mixed it up a bit and found a new way to lose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmer john Posted December 3, 2016 Report Share Posted December 3, 2016 Goodwin seemed to be tryng his best to get sent off (and succeeding) at various stages of his St Mirren career. But we loved him so it didn't matter. Not defending Baird at all of course. It is a truly awful time for us. But I dont think relegation is a certainty. We can still catch Dumbarton to get second bottom place then take our chance in the play off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norman Posted December 3, 2016 Report Share Posted December 3, 2016 2 minutes ago, Kendo said: Why don't we hang him at the cross. You're asking for the manager to bring in players with bottle, you mean like Goodwin? Why would we want Goodwin back? Why would Goodwin even come back? Do you think because Goodwin was a liability who kept getting himself sent off means it's OK for Baird to do what he did today? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antrin Posted December 3, 2016 Report Share Posted December 3, 2016 Chasing Dunfermline noo, fj. on the silver linings front, QOS lost again... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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