div Posted November 25, 2016 Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 1 minute ago, pozbaird said: You mentioned the JD Sports deal being ended Div. Can you expand? Just speculation on my part mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorizaar Posted November 25, 2016 Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 17 minutes ago, TopCat said: Yet more revenue lost by the club due to this. It would have been a poor crowd on Saturday, but the crowd on a Tuesday night is going to be far worse. Or looking at it another way, thousands of pounds saved by not having the heating on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pozbaird Posted November 25, 2016 Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 Just now, div said: Just speculation on my part mate. Fair enough. I'm speculating that this is the year Kylie Minogue comes down my chimney on Dec 25th. My USH will be well switched on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beyond our ken Posted November 25, 2016 Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 1 hour ago, Ayrshire Saints said: Why if the USH has been broken for a while was it not brought to our attention when members were deciding what to do with the cash surplus (likewise the issues at Ralston). I'm not saying that members would have chosen to use the cash for these issues over the disabled viewing but given we are stakeholders we should be made aware of these issues. Who knows, amongst our support we may have people with skills that could help fix such issues but that is impossible if we are kept in the dark. Smacks of burying bad (financial) news in the midst of nothing but an ocean of bad news on and off the park. I'm just back from a week's holiday and every person I spoke to about football went generally "ah that's the team that haven't won a league game this season". Never have I met so many people who knew of our club (for all the wrong reasons). Seems to me the death vortex is speeding up and we are nowhere near the bottom of the spiral yet. Utterly depressing, never been so low in a Saints following sense in my 40+ years. Chill, please. And how do you Bury something in an ocean? What size shovel do you use? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whydowebother Posted November 25, 2016 Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 I would of thought the USH would be on a maintenance contract , say 4 VPA ? Same as fire alarm panels ( though they can be tested as often as a site likes internally ) where the company has to issue compliance certificates and records of service ?The club would have contracts for Fire Alarms , Pest control , Security systems etc where they will all be on a set amount of visits per annum.A large heating system which can directly affect business requires monitoring , testing etc which should highlight faults on , pipes , generator , pumps etc surely ? But if not , I'd get it tested twice per annum once pre-season , once mid -season say November ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STGBuddy Posted November 25, 2016 Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 51 minutes ago, Kendo said: The bottom line is it doesn't matter who's to blame, shifting the blame around doesn't help anyone. Our new owners don't have their problems to seek, they need the backing of the fans to help get through to the other side. Sitting on the sidelines bitching about it won't help anyone. But surely folk are entitled to voice their concerns ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Sanchez Posted November 25, 2016 Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 We're not the first. It's another one from the disastrous SPL era where too many had delusions about how big Scottish football is/can be. Force clubs to install a heating system. Sit back and observe how many of them can't afford to switch it on, never mind maintain it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyal Supporter Posted November 25, 2016 Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 48 minutes ago, DougJamie said: Ok here is a novel answer. That people at my club start doing their jobs I agree , even if it was mentioned in The accounts it should have been repaired . Who's job is it to get this done ? Jack Ross ? Fowler ? The lady who serves the tea in board room ? No this surely is a Board problem and GS has to explain this mess to us . He knows full well that he will require a lot of money soon and he's just not coming forward and being honest . Fowler was getting pelters for putting adds up for players !!! THE GUY IS SHOWING SOME INITIATIVE AND TAKING RESPONSIBILITY FOR HIS JOB REMIT WHICH INVOLVES SINGNING PLAYERS . Why is he getting stick and GS walks away again free of any criticism ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notabuddie Posted November 25, 2016 Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 Maybe they are going to the insurance company to get the money for the fuse they are reporting stolen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STGBuddy Posted November 25, 2016 Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 3 minutes ago, Loyal Supporter said: I agree , even if it was mentioned in The accounts it should have been repaired . Who's job is it to get this done ? Jack Ross ? Fowler ? The lady who serves the tea in board room ? No this surely is a Board problem and GS has to explain this mess to us . He knows full well that he will require a lot of money soon and he's just not coming forward and being honest . Fowler was getting pelters for putting adds up for players !!! THE GUY IS SHOWING SOME INITIATIVE AND TAKING RESPONSIBILITY FOR HIS JOB REMIT WHICH INVOLVES SINGNING PLAYERS . Why is he getting stick and GS walks away again free of any criticism ? I think GS and the BOD are getting stick on this thread are they not ? Not sure what this has got to do with the fowler issue ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoof Hearted Posted November 25, 2016 Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 3 hours ago, shull said: How long has the Undersoil Heating been broken? Hopefully, it wasn't just tested this week for the first time in months. If not working for a while, why has it not been fixed? Going to lose stacks of money if Matches are postponed, starting with tomorrow's. Should have been an absolute priority to have it maintained and working properly. Jesus Wept. Whit are you bumping your gums about? You can still park ootside new love street between 3 and 5pm and coont the airyplanes. I think we've dodged a bullet, with the absolute honking pish we are playing we might have been on for a beating by the spunky spartans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendo Posted November 25, 2016 Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 1 hour ago, TopCat said: Yet more revenue lost by the club due to this. It would have been a poor crowd on Saturday, but the crowd on a Tuesday night is going to be far worse. So how much would it have cost to fix the heating and run the heating during this cold snap? It has probably saved money not putting the heating on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyal Supporter Posted November 25, 2016 Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 37 minutes ago, STGBuddy said: I think GS and the BOD are getting stick on this thread are they not ? Not sure what this has got to do with the fowler issue ? Because someone was giving Fowler pelters for placing an add for players out of contract on line . My point is that the guy is at least taking responsibility for his job and using his initiative . If GS had done the same then the match may have been on tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rea Posted November 25, 2016 Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 Wouldn't be very fair on the new owners of the club if the USH was broken when the club was sold and that was not disclosed? That is what due diligence is for SMISA paid for a report was it in there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russian Saint Posted November 25, 2016 Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 Yet more revenue lost by the club due to this.It would have been a poor crowd on Saturday, but the crowd on a Tuesday night is going to be far worse. Maybe it's a ploy by the BOD?Those pesky part timers will be knackered after a hard day's graft, then have to travel through to Paisley on a cold winter night.Hmmmmmmmm [emoji848] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STGBuddy Posted November 25, 2016 Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 47 minutes ago, Loyal Supporter said: Because someone was giving Fowler pelters for placing an add for players out of contract on line . My point is that the guy is at least taking responsibility for his job and using his initiative . If GS had done the same then the match may have been on tomorrow. I started the thread about that and I stand by my opinion .. I also think the BOD should get it in the neck for this .. I just don't think the two things are related that's all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windae cleaner Posted November 25, 2016 Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 2 hours ago, TopCat said: Yet more revenue lost by the club due to this. It would have been a poor crowd on Saturday, but the crowd on a Tuesday night is going to be far worse. I don't know U.S.H. would cost more to run As you said the crowd would have been poor either way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud Bundy Posted November 25, 2016 Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 1 hour ago, rea said: That is what due diligence is for SMISA paid for a report was it in there? Any SMISA office bearer comment on this ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rea Posted November 25, 2016 Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 Any SMISA office bearer comment on this ? And by that question i dont mean was it broken at that point...but were the repair and maintenance issues or things such as USH and stadium air handling and lift etc reported upon in the report. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pozbaird Posted November 25, 2016 Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 2 minutes ago, rea said: And by that question i dont mean was it broken at that point...but were the repair and maintenance issues or things such as USH and stadium air handling and lift etc reported upon FFS We're more fcuked than I thought if the stadium air isn't being handled properly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Dickson Posted November 25, 2016 Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 (edited) 11 minutes ago, pozbaird said: FFS We're more fcuked than I thought if the stadium air isn't being handled properly. Don't joke. It's hugely serious. If the Air Handling Units are f**ked that could cost even more money from supply and extract fans, replacement filters, the boiler or gas heaters, pumps etc, it could run into tens of thousands and that is more essential than the USH. Edited November 25, 2016 by Stuart Dickson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rea Posted November 25, 2016 Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 FFS We're more fcuked than I thought if the stadium air isn't being handled properly. Don't joke. It's hugely serious. If the Air Handling Units are f**ked that could cost even more money from supply and extract fans, replacement filters, the boiler or gas heaters, pumps etc, it could run into tens of thousands and that is more essential than the USH. There is nothing wrong with AH units or lift...question was as to if Due Diligence was a full report that SMISA paid for or if it was just pure financial analysis based on accounts etc.The DD report we did was about 40 pages worth of questions etc for what it is worth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doonhamer Posted November 25, 2016 Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 If we were aware of the state of the USH system for some time and have done nothing about it, I would expect a hefty fine from the SFA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callum Gilhooley Posted November 25, 2016 Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 (edited) 13 minutes ago, rea said: There is nothing wrong with AH units or lift...question was as to if Due Diligence was a full report that SMISA paid for or if it was just pure financial analysis based on accounts etc. The DD report we did was about 40 pages worth of questions etc for what it is worth I obviously have no idea what was or wasn`t covered under the due diligence process (in common with 99.9% of the contributors on here.) Were the new regime aware of it ? Did the old regime know & not let on ? Did the groundsman know & forgot to say until he went to switch it on ?? We may never find out the full story but one thing is for sure, our club has been dying on its arse for years and this episode is merely the latest installment. Things can only get better.... wait , forget i said that !! ETA , REA , i didnt mean to quote your post , just meant to add a reply ...... but that was Smisas fault also . Edited November 25, 2016 by Callum Gilhooley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSS Posted November 25, 2016 Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 19 minutes ago, doonhamer said: If we were aware of the state of the USH system for some time and have done nothing about it, I would expect a hefty fine from the SFA. Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.