Stuart Dickson Posted December 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 Ages ago as in under the old regime? Why can't you give the new board time to make change? We are not a multi-staff run club. The more pressing issue at the moment is getting the club out of the current mess on the playing side of things. That has to be the main focus for the clubs future. 49 employees according to the accounts. Several in grant funded “community" posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proudtobeabuddy Posted December 22, 2016 Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 1 minute ago, Stuart Dickson said: 49 employees according to the accounts. Several in grant funded “community" posts. Why don't you volunteer your services to help promote St Mirren in the community Stuart? And not just Paisley, the surrounding areas in renfrewhire... even Glasgow. There's plenty who would be attracted to your vision of a family club free of the bigotry of the old firm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevo_smfc Posted December 22, 2016 Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 19 minutes ago, Stuart Dickson said: 49 employees according to the accounts. Several in grant funded “community" posts. Is that including senior playing staff? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soctty Posted December 22, 2016 Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 Is this nob cheese still droning on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazil85 Posted December 22, 2016 Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 58 minutes ago, Stuart Dickson said: I did not say that no one in Paisley would give a f**k. I was more general and said Paisley wouldn't give a f**k. I'd stand by that. I doubt many in Paisley would even notice if the club wasn't there such is the state of the clubs relationship with the town. On the community side I was told yesterday that two schools in Paisley, including one in Ferguslie Park, fell out with the club ages ago and want nothing to do with St Mirren. I've not got more detail than that but it seems in common with some of the stories I heard from juvenile football. Someone is going to have to do a massive rebuilding job on the community side if the club is ever going to see growth. A lot of times it's a fools errand liaising with schools. 'Oh look kids here's some St Mirren players you've never heard of.' That won't change even if we had £90,000 a quarter to spend, majority of school kids will support one of the Old Firm and that's the way it'll always be. that's not just paisley that's this country over. No community work will change that, certainly not £9,000. The money in this time for St Mirren is better going to the team to help (not guarantee and not the only thing that'll help) secure our championship status. St Mirren in the community are stronger the higher up the pyramid we are. There is some great community work we do, sadly it won't generate us more fans and more footfall at 2021 on a Saturday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proudtobeabuddy Posted December 22, 2016 Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 The only way St Mirren will attract new fans is by winning...often. We need to get back to the top league and not just stay there, get in the top 6. Crowds would go up if that happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callum Gilhooley Posted December 22, 2016 Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 3 minutes ago, bazil85 said: A lot of times it's a fools errand liaising with schools. 'Oh look kids here's some St Mirren players you've never heard of.' That won't change even if we had £90,000 a quarter to spend, majority of school kids will support one of the Old Firm and that's the way it'll always be. that's not just paisley that's this country over. No community work will change that, certainly not £9,000. The money in this time for St Mirren is better going to the team to help (not guarantee and not the only thing that'll help) secure our championship status. St Mirren in the community are stronger the higher up the pyramid we are. There is some great community work we do, sadly it won't generate us more fans and more footfall at 2021 on a Saturday. No , you`re wrong. It is only Paisley . Would never see it happening in , lets say somewhere like Lanarkshire . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazil85 Posted December 22, 2016 Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 32 minutes ago, Stuart Dickson said: 49 employees according to the accounts. Several in grant funded “community" posts. And you're expecting a new board, new management team and SMISA to all be absolutely perfect within six months and not make mistakes as well as guarantee every single penny of hardworking fans pledges to go to community programs despite 88% of voting fans wanting money to go to player budget, I'd be more concerned if SMISA ignored the wishes of the majority of people paying them money. Going round in circles yet again but this is not SMISA's decision, 100% of pledges to buy St Mirren football club into fan ownership do not have to go to the community (Otherwise surely the £10/ £23 would be going in as well instead of repaying Mr Gilmour) we still do great things for the club, people pledging monthly direct debits have not made any promises the money would all go to community, SMISA haven't made that pledge either. It's a fecken democratic vote on where the money is going. I actually hope you've went looking for legal advice, you'll be laughed out of any solicitors office and everyone else will think you're an even bigger tool than they already do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazil85 Posted December 22, 2016 Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 4 minutes ago, Callum Gilhooley said: No , you`re wrong. It is only Paisley . Would never see it happening in , lets say somewhere like Lanarkshire . i stand corrected... Airdrie, Coatbridge, East Kilbride are all full of nothing but Airdrieonian, Albion Rovers and EK fans. never heard of anyone supporting a Glasgow team there... (I am assuming your post is sarcasm obviously) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Posted December 22, 2016 Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 Jesus! Seriously folks, just walk away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callum Gilhooley Posted December 22, 2016 Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 3 minutes ago, Drew said: Jesus! Seriously folks, just walk away. I Know . I know. I really should . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazil85 Posted December 22, 2016 Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 Right okay I'm done. Let's call a cease fire [emoji23][emoji85] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougJamie Posted December 22, 2016 Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 58 minutes ago, proudtobeabuddy said: Why don't you volunteer your services to help promote St Mirren in the community Stuart? And not just Paisley, the surrounding areas in renfrewhire... even Glasgow. There's plenty who would be attracted to your vision of a family club free of the bigotry of the old firm. Or try and spread the word on another planet, preferably one with no oxygen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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windae cleaner Posted December 22, 2016 Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 3 hours ago, FTOF said: It may well be. However, there are a large number of people who show affiliation to St.Mirren and would be upset if the club disappeared. I know several individuals who fall into this category. So I'm afraid the "unadulterated shite" comment still stands. I also have several friends who support the bigots and they aren't blinded by hatred and take no enjoyment in our current predicament. No doubt you will have friends who have a soft spot but these people will be around the same age as ourselves It's the younger generation i'm talking about spawned by the Souness children I'm not just talking about Paisley but the whole West Central Scotland Where up to Souness arrival the media did give some airtime to other clubs in the radio,tv and newspapers Well we see now that certain newspapers are just fanzines Our local radio stations talk about the gruesome twosome 95% TV every away game for the 2 filmed stopping more money going to the home team The main bulk of our support is people who grew up when we were a top 6 team and some of their offspring Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted December 22, 2016 Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 Other than resigning, what have you done? I don't think that is any of your business Yeah that's right it's none of oaksoft's business what you have alluded to have done via a public forum about an organisation that you are no longer a member of.Irony bypass once again for Herr Dickson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted December 22, 2016 Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 2 hours ago, Soctty said: Is this nob cheese still droning on? I'll assume you just ignored Divs post on posting abuse with no real reason towards Dickson? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soctty Posted December 22, 2016 Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 I'll assume you just ignored Divs post on posting abuse with no real reason towards Dickson? If it was on a thread that he was polluting, then I wouldn't have seen it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted December 22, 2016 Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 Just now, Soctty said: If it was on a thread that he was polluting, then yeah. It's ok, nothing will happen No moderation is the way ahead, seemingly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soctty Posted December 22, 2016 Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 It's ok, nothing will happen No moderation is the way ahead, seemingly. Dickson's posts take over the forum. That's why I'm ignoring him. Endless pish. He seems to thrive on getting told what a nob he is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted December 22, 2016 Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 5 minutes ago, Soctty said: Dickson's posts take over the forum. That's why I'm ignoring him. Endless pish. He seems to thrive on getting told what a nob he is. I find it difficult to separate Dickson from the people who seem to thrive on responding to him. As I said, fire in. Even if it's the guy who's supposed to run the forum asking for needless abuse to stop nothing will happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Dickson Posted December 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 And you're expecting a new board, new management team and SMISA to all be absolutely perfect within six months and not make mistakes as well as guarantee every single penny of hardworking fans pledges to go to community programs despite 88% of voting fans wanting money to go to player budget, I'd be more concerned if SMISA ignored the wishes of the majority of people paying them money. Going round in circles yet again but this is not SMISA's decision, 100% of pledges to buy St Mirren football club into fan ownership do not have to go to the community (Otherwise surely the £10/ £23 would be going in as well instead of repaying Mr Gilmour) we still do great things for the club, people pledging monthly direct debits have not made any promises the money would all go to community, SMISA haven't made that pledge either. It's a fecken democratic vote on where the money is going. I actually hope you've went looking for legal advice, you'll be laughed out of any solicitors office and everyone else will think you're an even bigger tool than they already do. To be honest I was expecting progress. Instead what is gradually emerging is a picture of even bigger problems than anyone first imagined. You've got a large detachment from the local community - incidentally it isn't nearly as bad in Motherwell - you've got a board passing round the begging bowl, a team adrift at the bottom of the second tier, stories of empire building internally amongst staff, a club shop that doesn't earn the club money, the club falling foul of HMRC over minimum pay and the kit supplier and main sponsor having pulled their business. I'm also hearing stories of resignations and of internal discontentment. SMISA claim their too busy to deliver their promise of a club at the heart of the community despite having one more "director" on board than their constitution allows and some of the SMISA board don't seem to know what their business model is never mind the business model or plan for the football club. Indeed if it wasn't for the Fans Council and the extraordinary generosity of some of the fans you'd be hard pushed to find a single good news story over the last six months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pozbaird Posted December 22, 2016 Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 Have to admit, I have to take issue with Soctty's post about StuDick as well. It should have been 'knob cheese' with a 'k'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soctty Posted December 22, 2016 Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 Have to admit, I have to take issue with Soctty's post about StuDick as well. It should have been 'knob cheese' with a 'k'. [emoji41] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windae cleaner Posted December 22, 2016 Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 3 hours ago, bazil85 said: A lot of times it's a fools errand liaising with schools. 'Oh look kids here's some St Mirren players you've never heard of.' That won't change even if we had £90,000 a quarter to spend, majority of school kids will support one of the Old Firm and that's the way it'll always be. that's not just paisley that's this country over. No community work will change that, certainly not £9,000. The money in this time for St Mirren is better going to the team to help (not guarantee and not the only thing that'll help) secure our championship status. St Mirren in the community are stronger the higher up the pyramid we are. There is some great community work we do, sadly it won't generate us more fans and more footfall at 2021 on a Saturday. Correct St Mirren send players to local Boys Clubs all the time to present prizes at their end of season bashes Stevie Mallan presented at my son's and in a room about 50 only 4 people knew who he was I was more excited in meeting him than any wean who was in the room apart from my boy and one of his team mates Different story if it was a bit part player from the gruesome twosome they would be queing up for selfies or whatever This is shocking especially from the football community where next to no one knew the local senior side's best player Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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