Isle Of Bute Saint Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 I'm trying to think when was the last time there was so many talented youngster's in the first team squad ? Cut me down here if I'm wrong , Fergie days ? Fergie took a couple of years to get the gel right now I'm not saying Jack Ross is Fergie , however im very impressed Ross and his back team have a eye for talent and seem to be able to get the best out the youngest in our squad. Trust me i'm old enough to understand someone who can bring the best out in someone is not an easy find. Was also impressed Ross had our under 20 coach on the side lines. We will survive this season , if the board have the foresight nest season could be very special. Hold onto the stars I beg you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyg Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 Hi Ian , Fergie only used two youngsters on a regular basis in his first season ,Fitzpatrick and Reid , who were both already in the team before he arrived. He used/signed experienced players to steady the ship , and if we're to stay up this season , I would expect more experience to come into the squad in January ! If Ross lumps the responsibility for keeping us up on the youngsters shoulders , I would fear the worst ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Dickson Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 2 hours ago, Isle Of Bute Saint said: I'm trying to think when was the last time there was so many talented youngster's in the first team squad ? Cut me down here if I'm wrong , Fergie days ? Fergie took a couple of years to get the gel right now I'm not saying Jack Ross is Fergie , however im very impressed Ross and his back team have a eye for talent and seem to be able to get the best out the youngest in our squad. Trust me i'm old enough to understand someone who can bring the best out in someone is not an easy find. Was also impressed Ross had our under 20 coach on the side lines. We will survive this season , if the board have the foresight nest season could be very special. Hold onto the stars I beg you. FFS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isle Of Bute Saint Posted December 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 You dont get it Stuart no surprise there. Why should i even debate with a St Mirren nonexistent supporter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isle Of Bute Saint Posted December 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 Sorry forgot to add FFS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mid Calder Saint Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 Ian you have a very good point.I think what you mean is that Fergie succeeded with a blend of youth and experience when you think that in addition to Fitzpatrick and Reid he brought in Stark from Anniesland Waverley and the likes of McGarvey and Richardson from the junior ranks.His master stroke was signing Bone and Copland both experienced players.These were magical days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Dickson Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 6 minutes ago, Isle Of Bute Saint said: You dont get it Stuart no surprise there. Why should i even debate with a St Mirren nonexistent supporter? I don't get what? That you're a f**king mentalist either pissed or off your head on something else? The last time St Mirren had a squad full of youngsters was when Jimmy Bone and Tony Fitzpatrick were manager back in the 90's. St Mirren were rooted in the second tier despite much better talent than is at Jack Ross's disposal right now. And the current crop of kids you are so excited about has won two league matches out of 17 this season and are still rooted, firmly and somewhat adrift at the bottom of the second tier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isle Of Bute Saint Posted December 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 Off my head ? Jesus so anti St Mirren you should move on to something you abide too. What that will be i think you will never find. Your just a bitterly wee man who is lost in space. So what drug are on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callum Gilhooley Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 Ignore the stupid shit stirring f**k. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julian Banjos Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 We'll still do well to stay up, but by promoting the two Kyles JR has succeeded in doing a few things: 1. Immediately addressed the imbalance in the squad, without signing anyone (to the extent that Hutton could be sent out on loan). 2. Sewed seeds for a more successful team in the next couple of seasons. 3. Put out a side that is capable of playing good football. Alex Rae scoffed at the standard in the 20's matches and filled the squad full of journeymen. One of the main reasons he got binned I believe. I wonder if he'd still be in a job if he'd had the wherewithal to try the two Kyles and redirected the money spent on Hutton and Walsh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
div Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 1 hour ago, billyg said: Hi Ian , Fergie only used two youngsters on a regular basis in his first season ,Fitzpatrick and Reid , who were both already in the team before he arrived. He used/signed experienced players to steady the ship , and if we're to stay up this season , I would expect more experience to come into the squad in January ! If Ross lumps the responsibility for keeping us up on the youngsters shoulders , I would fear the worst ! I mind the day I used to disagree with all your posts. Either I'm getting old or you're getting sensible, but this is bang on for me. The young players have been a brilliant revelation, and a welcome distraction in what has been another car crash of a season. We shouldn't under estimate the size of the task that is in front of us to survive this season though. We're 6 points behind, and the teams above us have all demonstrated that they are more than capable of gaining points. Next week we have Ayr & Dumbarton meeting whilst we go to Tannadice and then we've another difficult tie against an in form Morton side. We will almost certainly go into January at least 6 points behind. Looking at the run of games we have, particularly at the end of the season when we are away to Hibs, Falkirk and Dundee Utd sandwiched around a home tie with Raith we are going to have to really go some to finish clear of trouble. It's a hellish finish. The kids will take us so far, but if we are really to get out of this, we need some good experienced additions to the squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munoz Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 58 minutes ago, Julian Banjos said: We'll still do well to stay up, but by promoting the two Kyles JR has succeeded in doing a few things: 1. Immediately addressed the imbalance in the squad, without signing anyone (to the extent that Hutton could be sent out on loan). 2. Sewed seeds for a more successful team in the next couple of seasons. 3. Put out a side that is capable of playing good football. Alex Rae scoffed at the standard in the 20's matches and filled the squad full of journeymen. One of the main reasons he got binned I believe. I wonder if he'd still be in a job if he'd had the wherewithal to try the two Kyles and redirected the money spent on Hutton and Walsh. Spot on . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 48 minutes ago, div said: I mind the day I used to disagree with all your posts. Either I'm getting old or you're getting sensible, but this is bang on for me. The young players have been a brilliant revelation, and a welcome distraction in what has been another car crash of a season. We shouldn't under estimate the size of the task that is in front of us to survive this season though. We're 6 points behind, and the teams above us have all demonstrated that they are more than capable of gaining points. Next week we have Ayr & Dumbarton meeting whilst we go to Tannadice and then we've another difficult tie against an in form Morton side. We will almost certainly go into January at least 6 points behind. Looking at the run of games we have, particularly at the end of the season when we are away to Hibs, Falkirk and Dundee Utd sandwiched around a home tie with Raith we are going to have to really go some to finish clear of trouble. It's a hellish finish. The kids will take us so far, but if we are really to get out of this, we need some good experienced additions to the squad. Yesterday's display opened my eyes to how good these 4 youngsters (Mallan, Morgan, Magennis and McAllister) really are. The older, experienced guys in defence also did well IMO (which suggests to me that they have confidence in the youth that JR has promoted). Despite not winning the game I left the ground feeling genuine optimism about the way things are starting to shape up at long last ! However we have a fairly short window to turn this into genuine progress that will save us from relegation - just have a look at our final 4 or 5 fixtures this season, at least three of those are trips away to the likes of Falkirk, Hibs and Dundee Utd. We must turn this potential into points ASAP to get well clear of the danger areas before April or we will be sunk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 Sorry for the repetition div, I hadn't noticed that you had already pointed out the final fixtures in your post. Doh ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
div Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 Sorry for the repetition div, I hadn't noticed that you had already pointed out the final fixtures in your post. Doh ! Great minds bud [emoji106] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julian Banjos Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 1 hour ago, div said: The kids will take us so far, but if we are really to get out of this, we need some good experienced additions to the squad. A strong showing in the second half of the season from Rocco Quinn would make a big difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian1877 Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 jimmy bone team? Combe, baker, Fullarton, lavety, gillies delighted he's playing the boys. Can only be good for the club Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 Just now, Brian1877 said: jimmy bone team? Combe, baker, Fullarton, lavety, gillies delighted he's playing the boys. Can only be good for the club Combe - Shite Goalie Baker - Great left back Fullarton - Shite Lavety - Legend Gillies - Kenny shite, Ricky should have played in the English Premiership. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isle Of Bute Saint Posted December 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 Have wrote for a couple of weeks that one spot above the play off position will be sucess the task must not be underestimated. You also cannot expect these youngsters to play great every week. My point from the first post is we have something special with these youngsters that can be built on as long as the nuggets are not sold. Hopefully we are not relegated Ross can then build a team round these youngsters with the right blend we could have a great season next year. These young boys have got exceptional talent to have four at the one time is something you dont often see from our club. Jack Ross if backed will bring the good days back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud the Baker Posted December 19, 2016 Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 15 hours ago, Isle Of Bute Saint said: I'm trying to think when was the last time there was so many talented youngster's in the first team squad ? Cut me down here if I'm wrong , Fergie days ? Fergie took a couple of years to get the gel right now I'm not saying Jack Ross is Fergie , however im very impressed Ross and his back team have a eye for talent and seem to be able to get the best out the youngest in our squad. Trust me i'm old enough to understand someone who can bring the best out in someone is not an easy find. Was also impressed Ross had our under 20 coach on the side lines. We will survive this season , if the board have the foresight nest season could be very special. Hold onto the stars I beg you. 1987 - Lambert, Winnie, Brian Hamilton, Cameron in the Cup Winning team plus Norrie McWhirter. Happier days and who knows maybe this lot will help us return to the top flight - here's hoping! Touching on the OF Colt team brouhaha (my word of the day!) hopefully this can re-establish us as a club that gives youth a chance. As ever, onwards and roundwards! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
div Posted December 19, 2016 Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 Have wrote for a couple of weeks that one spot above the play off position will be sucess the task must not be underestimated. You also cannot expect these youngsters to play great every week. My point from the first post is we have something special with these youngsters that can be built on as long as the nuggets are not sold. Hopefully we are not relegated Ross can then build a team round these youngsters with the right blend we could have a great season next year. These young boys have got exceptional talent to have four at the one time is something you dont often see from our club. Jack Ross if backed will bring the good days back. Absolutely agree big guy, the Fab Four give us a terrific platform on which to build a great Saints side. Survival this season isn't going to be easy but if we can manage it then next season might just be one to look forward to and enjoy for the first time in what seems like forever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian1877 Posted December 19, 2016 Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 10 hours ago, shull said: Ricky should have played in the English Premiership. Really!! He was such a success at Aberdeen and his numerous caps for his Country??? Surprised Man u never picked him up Take the blinkers off re Fullarton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted December 19, 2016 Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 5 minutes ago, Brian1877 said: Really!! He was such a success at Aberdeen and his numerous caps for his Country??? Surprised Man u never picked him up Take the blinkers off re Fullarton At least you agree regarding.. Combe, Bakesy, Basher and Kenny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian1877 Posted December 19, 2016 Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 Combe had his moments...he was a good shot stopper but i remember the trundler that crawled between his legs at Somerset Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted December 19, 2016 Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 8 minutes ago, Brian1877 said: Combe had his moments...he was a good shot stopper but i remember the trundler that crawled between his legs at Somerset I think he was Les Fridge's lovechild. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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