TPAFKA Jersey 2 Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 33 minutes ago, MenstrieSaint said: think McGinns playing tonight , wrong again And just scored Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 10 minutes ago, TPAFKA Jersey 2 said: And just scored Any hammers being thrown around? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPAFKA Jersey 2 Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 14 minutes ago, faraway saint said: Any hammers being thrown around? Only hammers are being rattled intae the back of the Hibees onion bag at present. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, TPAFKA Jersey 2 said: Only hammers are being rattled intae the back of the Hibees onion bag at present. 3-2, 4-8 on agg, don't think it's time to worry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Ricky Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 Newspaper chat seemed to suggest that Celtic have made a 3rd approach. Hibs might (naturally) like to pay us less than contractually agreed. Would make a lower bid from Celtic more acceptable to Hibs. Watch this space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 8 minutes ago, TPAFKA Jersey 2 said: Only hammers are being rattled intae the back of the Hibees onion bag at present. 3-3 half time, 4-9, time to get the cigar out Mr Lennon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPAFKA Jersey 2 Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 1 minute ago, St.Ricky said: Newspaper chat seemed to suggest that Celtic have made a 3rd approach. Hibs might (naturally) like to pay us less than contractually agreed. Would make a lower bid from Celtic more acceptable to Hibs. Watch this space. You’ve lost me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Arthur Blair Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 8 minutes ago, St.Ricky said: Newspaper chat seemed to suggest that Celtic have made a 3rd approach. Hibs might (naturally) like to pay us less than contractually agreed. Would make a lower bid from Celtic more acceptable to Hibs. Watch this space. Hibs will keep two-thirds of whatever fee they receive for McGinn from whomever wants to sign him. If they sell him for £1.5M, they get £1M, we get £500k If they sell him for £3M, they get £2M, we get £1M and so on. "A lower bid more acceptable"...what a load of pish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Ricky Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 (edited) 21 minutes ago, TPAFKA Jersey 2 said: You’ve lost me TPAFKA. If our sell on agreement with Hibs is e.g. 33% and Celtic bid £2mill then Hibs would keep £1.34m and we would get £666,000. If we accepted less e.g. 15% then if Celtic Bid £1.75m then Hibs would keep 85% of that (which is higher than 67% of £2mill) Saints would then get £262,000. Hibs and Saints alternatively get nothing if he stays until the end of the season. I hope the original deal is honoured but business is business. In an ideal world there would be no renogotiation of the original agreement but football is a messy business. If approached then I trust the board to make a decision which favours Saint's interests. Ms Dempster is a tough negotiator. Edited July 19, 2018 by St.Ricky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabuddies Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 6 minutes ago, St.Ricky said: TPAFKA. If our sell on agreement with Hibs is e.g. 33% and Celtic bid £2mill then Hibs would keep £1.34m and we would get £666,000. If we accepted less e.g. 15% then if Celtic Bid £1.75m then Hibs would keep 85% of that (which is higher than 67% of £2mill) Saints would then get £262,000. Hibs and Saints alternatively get nothing if he stays until the end of the season. I hope the original deal is honoured but business is business. In an ideal world there would be no renogotiation of the original agreement but football is a messy business Eh! Where or when was the subject of re-negotiating the contractual obligations ever discussed - on here, in the press, in Ricky's mind, WTF? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pod Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 12 minutes ago, St.Ricky said: TPAFKA. If our sell on agreement with Hibs is e.g. 33% and Celtic bid £2mill then Hibs would keep £1.34m and we would get £666,000. If we accepted less e.g. 15% then if Celtic Bid £1.75m then Hibs would keep 85% of that (which is higher than 67% of £2mill) Saints would then get £262,000. Hibs and Saints alternatively get nothing if he stays until the end of the season. I hope the original deal is honoured but business is business. In an ideal world there would be no renogotiation of the original agreement but football is a messy business 33% or nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Ricky Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, rabuddies said: Eh! Where or when was the subject of re-negotiating the contractual obligations ever discussed - on here, in the press, in Ricky's mind, WTF? It happens in football and in business. I posted this to highlight that these things are not always straightforward. Would I prefer us to receive the amount laid out in the agreement made with Hibs ...yes. Patience will pay for the club and the fans. Edited July 19, 2018 by St.Ricky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPAFKA Jersey 2 Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 18 minutes ago, St.Ricky said: TPAFKA. If our sell on agreement with Hibs is e.g. 33% and Celtic bid £2mill then Hibs would keep £1.34m and we would get £666,000. If we accepted less e.g. 15% then if Celtic Bid £1.75m then Hibs would keep 85% of that (which is higher than 67% of £2mill) Saints would then get £262,000. Hibs and Saints alternatively get nothing if he stays until the end of the season. I hope the original deal is honoured but business is business. In an ideal world there would be no renogotiation of the original agreement but football is a messy business. If approached then I trust the board to make a decision which favours Saint's interests. Ms Dempster is a tough negotiator. I would rather hold out and let the two of us get f**k all, than let Hibs screw us over like that. What a mental idea!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Ricky Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 Just now, TPAFKA Jersey 2 said: I would rather hold out and let the two of us get f**k all, than let Hibs screw us over like that. What a mental idea!! I don't like it. That's why I posted it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 2 hours ago, St.Ricky said: I don't like it. That's why I posted it. You reckon Hibs would risk losing £2 million to avoid paying us 600k? The next time I negotiate a business deal, can you be on the other side of the table from me please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Ricky Posted July 20, 2018 Report Share Posted July 20, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, oaksoft said: You reckon Hibs would risk losing £2 million to avoid paying us 600k? The next time I negotiate a business deal, can you be on the other side of the table from me please? I don't like it. That's why I posted it. Hobs are entitled to ask and we are entitled to say no thanks. Back to the original scenario. Meanwhile Hibs have risked nothing. If you don't grasp that then there is no point in explaining further. Edited July 20, 2018 by St.Ricky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pondsman Posted July 20, 2018 Report Share Posted July 20, 2018 Ricky, just to be clear, do you know that Hibs have approached St. Mirren about accepting a lower percentage of the sell-on fee or is that just speculation on your part? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted July 20, 2018 Report Share Posted July 20, 2018 1 hour ago, St.Ricky said: I don't like it. That's why I posted it. Hobs are entitled to ask and we are entitled to say no thanks. Back to the original scenario. Meanwhile Hibs have risked nothing. If you don't grasp that then there is no point in explaining further. Hang on, this conversation is not going to happen but let's say for a second that it does... what on earth would we stand to gain from agreeing to significant reduction? Say there was a rule that Hibs and ourselves could agree to knock it down to 20%, we'd be looking at recouping that elsewhere, likely through players from Hibs. There's no way a smaller sell on percentage can or will be agreed. Hibs can offer an upfront value of money to buy the sell on from us but that is a completely different thing and could backfire if Hibs don't sell McGinn. Simply put, it won't happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Monkey Posted July 20, 2018 Report Share Posted July 20, 2018 I think Hibs are looking good this season, goals conceded last night aside. I'm not suggesting Hibs could win the thing, but I think Celtic will be keener than ever to take one of their best players if they possibly can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted July 20, 2018 Report Share Posted July 20, 2018 4 minutes ago, Magic Monkey said: I think Hibs are looking good this season, goals conceded last night aside. I'm not suggesting Hibs could win the thing, but I think Celtic will be keener than ever to take one of their best players if they possibly can. If Hibs get the cash for McGinn they better invest it in a defender...............or simply get rid of Ambrose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Mc Posted July 20, 2018 Report Share Posted July 20, 2018 Hang on, this conversation is not going to happen but let's say for a second that it does... what on earth would we stand to gain from agreeing to significant reduction? Say there was a rule that Hibs and ourselves could agree to knock it down to 20%, we'd be looking at recouping that elsewhere, likely through players from Hibs. There's no way a smaller sell on percentage can or will be agreed. Hibs can offer an upfront value of money to buy the sell on from us but that is a completely different thing and could backfire if Hibs don't sell McGinn. Simply put, it won't happen. Without knowing any detail on the face of it there’s no reason why a contract variation couldn’t be agreed between Hibs and St. Mirren. Not saying it will happen just that it could. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munoz Posted July 20, 2018 Report Share Posted July 20, 2018 16 minutes ago, faraway saint said: If Hibs get the cash for McGinn they better invest it in a defender...............or simply get rid of Ambrose. Hibs last 3 competitive games F17 A10 . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevo_smfc Posted July 20, 2018 Report Share Posted July 20, 2018 35 minutes ago, Magic Monkey said: I think Hibs are looking good this season, goals conceded last night aside. I'm not suggesting Hibs could win the thing, but I think Celtic will be keener than ever to take one of their best players if they possibly can. They have a tonne of goal threats in their squad and if McGinn is to depart, that will only leave a void imo for Scott Allan or the young lad Johnston from Celtic to fill. I would imagine they would also use the McGinn cash to invest even more in the squad as they are a bit short in numbers up front despite scoring freely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Ricky Posted July 20, 2018 Report Share Posted July 20, 2018 2 hours ago, djchapsticks said: Hang on, this conversation is not going to happen but let's say for a second that it does... what on earth would we stand to gain from agreeing to significant reduction? Say there was a rule that Hibs and ourselves could agree to knock it down to 20%, we'd be looking at recouping that elsewhere, likely through players from Hibs. There's no way a smaller sell on percentage can or will be agreed. Hibs can offer an upfront value of money to buy the sell on from us but that is a completely different thing and could backfire if Hibs don't sell McGinn. Simply put, it won't happen. You and I are in agreement then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted July 20, 2018 Report Share Posted July 20, 2018 5 hours ago, St.Ricky said: I don't like it. That's why I posted it. Hobs are entitled to ask and we are entitled to say no thanks. Back to the original scenario. Meanwhile Hibs have risked nothing. If you don't grasp that then there is no point in explaining further. I think you explained it well enough for everyone to see how your "intellect" works. Thanks for that. I needed cheering up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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