faraway saint Posted June 24 Report Share Posted June 24 3 hours ago, bazil85 said: You will just argue & antagonise anything won’t you? As I’ve told you before, you don’t get to decide how people do & don’t use this website. Well no, unless you don’t understand the several positions I left out. 🤷♂️ And you don't like it when your limited opinion is pointed out. You whine about people who make valid opinions on the club but you are at your best when whining about the team. Several positions, as I said, ALMOST a whole team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted June 24 Report Share Posted June 24 Woke up to a couple of messages from mates who are over in Germany. Severely disappointed in the way we went out last night just about summarises their views. It's bad enough watching from home but the time and money the Tartan Army fork out when following the team they deserve more than they got. Ach, I'm scunnered, the form has been slowly trickling away sine the qualifiers, albeit we got pumped by some top class teams. What does the future hold for the manager and the team, very hard to say as they have given the support some of the best results and performances in years in the qualifying games (easily forgotten it seems) yet, when it came to the crunch, they let the country down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazil85 Posted June 24 Report Share Posted June 24 29 minutes ago, faraway saint said: And you don't like it when your limited opinion is pointed out. You whine about people who make valid opinions on the club but you are at your best when whining about the team. Several positions, as I said, ALMOST a whole team. My opinions aren’t in anyway limited. They are as valid as anyone else’s. You're moon howling now. Drawing up old arguments as a coping mechanism to handle the disappointment of last night. It wasn’t though was it? It was centre backs, a goalkeeper & strikers. Zero mention of anyone in the middle or on both flanks. Do you even disagree? 🤦♂️ Again, you’re just latching onto things. Cope harder you petty troll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted June 24 Report Share Posted June 24 18 minutes ago, bazil85 said: My opinions aren’t in anyway limited. They are as valid as anyone else’s. You're moon howling now. Drawing up old arguments as a coping mechanism to handle the disappointment of last night. It wasn’t though was it? It was centre backs, a goalkeeper & strikers. Zero mention of anyone in the middle or on both flanks. Do you even disagree? 🤦♂️ Again, you’re just latching onto things. Cope harder you petty troll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazil85 Posted June 24 Report Share Posted June 24 9 minutes ago, faraway saint said: One of your better contributions to the forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted June 24 Report Share Posted June 24 Just now, bazil85 said: One of your better contributions to the forum. Better than almost all of yours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted June 24 Author Report Share Posted June 24 (edited) Well we are the best at the consumption of alcohol leading to the best parties. Football is really irrelevant. Just as well. SHITE FOR 150 YEARS Football will not be mastered by us. Never ever. Just have a party and get blootered I politely say no thanks Edited June 24 by shull Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted June 24 Report Share Posted June 24 Something to smile about...... Watching the Euros and this idiot gives away my WiFi password 😜 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazil85 Posted June 24 Report Share Posted June 24 1 hour ago, faraway saint said: Better than almost all of yours. Oh, deep burn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazil85 Posted June 24 Report Share Posted June 24 Remind me how VAR improves the overall game? 😂🥴 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted June 24 Report Share Posted June 24 38 years of the Scots wearing Argentina shirts, banging on endlessly about Maradonna, it’s an Argie ref who stiffs them for a stonewall penalty. Absolute theatre 😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlucifer Posted June 24 Report Share Posted June 24 Penalty claim aside, and I'm not totally convinced it was a pen., I think young Lewis should have taken one for the team and stopped the Hungarian on the half way line. I was shouting at the telly at the time. Maybe it's supporting Scotland for so long but, as soon as they broke I just knew what was going to happen. Saying all that we should have been able to stop the ball from reaching Csoboth. Christie didn't close down enough. At the end of the day, we deserved no less than we got. For most of the game we were pedestrian and predictable. They could have scored more. We didn't have a shot on target in the first half of a game we needed to win. While I'm not sure it would have made a difference I cannot believe Clarke started with Adams who is bereft of goals instead of Shankland though I would have preferred he started with 2 strikers. I know it's easy to say in hindsight but, In the death throws of the game I think he chose the wrong options. At that point he could have been braver and left Adams on to partner Shankland up top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSS Posted June 24 Report Share Posted June 24 Time for Clarke to go 👋👋👋 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northstbuddie Posted June 24 Report Share Posted June 24 In the calm of the day after the night before - time for reflection. In my view, Tom English gives a fairly ballanced assessment here of our exit from Euro 24: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c9777vz1d08o When at full strength, there is not a lot wrong with our defence and midfield - others may disagree. Up front, we struggled to mount effective attacks on the opposition let alone score a goal - this a fact and not an opinion. As pointed out in the article, Shankland, Morgan and Forrest got little or no chance to show what they could do to improve things but it is hard to think of anyone else who could have made a difference, despite the fact that we persisted with the first choice striker who had scored only one goal in 13 matches The big question is how have we reached this stage where we are so far behind other comparable nations? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazil85 Posted June 24 Report Share Posted June 24 7 hours ago, stlucifer said: Penalty claim aside, and I'm not totally convinced it was a pen., I think young Lewis should have taken one for the team and stopped the Hungarian on the half way line. I was shouting at the telly at the time. Maybe it's supporting Scotland for so long but, as soon as they broke I just knew what was going to happen. Saying all that we should have been able to stop the ball from reaching Csoboth. Christie didn't close down enough. At the end of the day, we deserved no less than we got. For most of the game we were pedestrian and predictable. They could have scored more. We didn't have a shot on target in the first half of a game we needed to win. While I'm not sure it would have made a difference I cannot believe Clarke started with Adams who is bereft of goals instead of Shankland though I would have preferred he started with 2 strikers. I know it's easy to say in hindsight but, In the death throes of the game I think he chose the wrong options. At that point he could have been braver and left Adams on to partner Shankland up top. Not sure about that. If Morgan makes that tackle, we are (almost certainly) out the competition anyway. There would probably only have been time for the Hungary free kick so at best it’s a draw. Had to hope the defence do their job & get the ball back forward for one last effort. They didn’t and we paid for it. As said, we didn’t deserve anything from that game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlucifer Posted June 24 Report Share Posted June 24 35 minutes ago, bazil85 said: Not sure about that. If Morgan makes that tackle, we are (almost certainly) out the competition anyway. There would probably only have been time for the Hungary free kick so at best it’s a draw. Had to hope the defence do their job & get the ball back forward for one last effort. They didn’t and we paid for it. As said, we didn’t deserve anything from that game. IMO, you need to look at it in isolation to decide his best move. If Morgan makes that tackle we are in a better situation than we ended up in. Whether there would have been time for one last foray is debatable but we would have had time to organise. I think that would have been preferable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted June 25 Report Share Posted June 25 Painful but the qualifying games have brought plenty of great memories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazil85 Posted June 25 Report Share Posted June 25 16 hours ago, stlucifer said: IMO, you need to look at it in isolation to decide his best move. If Morgan makes that tackle we are in a better situation than we ended up in. Whether there would have been time for one last foray is debatable but we would have had time to organise. I think that would have been preferable. Hindsight is a wonderful thing with the goal but they scored in the 11th minute of 10 minutes of stoppage time. The whistle was blown really quickly after they scored. Not sure he even had time to make a call but if he had tackled the boy, I would wager people would criticise that as well if the ref blew the whistle in the aftermath of the free kick. ‘What’s he doing making that tackle, he’s just given up any chance of one last attack.’ Lose lose probably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeeBud Posted June 25 Report Share Posted June 25 7 minutes ago, bazil85 said: Hindsight is a wonderful thing with the goal but they scored in the 11th minute of 10 minutes of stoppage time. The whistle was blown really quickly after they scored. Not sure he even had time to make a call but if he had tackled the boy, I would wager people would criticise that as well if the ref blew the whistle in the aftermath of the free kick. ‘What’s he doing making that tackle, he’s just given up any chance of one last attack.’ Lose lose probably. I agree with Baz.....I'm away for a lie down!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlucifer Posted June 25 Report Share Posted June 25 Someone stated on facebook, "Kicked out of Europe against our will… again". TRUE In both cases, we deserve it. The team were cr@p and the nation was too feart to take the leap. But at least one of those decisions is reversable. VOTE SNP and demand self determination. Then we can vote for a Government of OUR choice to do OUR will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted June 25 Report Share Posted June 25 (edited) 1 hour ago, stlucifer said: Someone stated on facebook, "Kicked out of Europe against our will… again". TRUE In both cases, we deserve it. The team were cr@p and the nation was too feart to take the leap. But at least one of those decisions is reversable. VOTE SNP and demand self determination. Then we can vote for a Government of OUR choice to do OUR will. Wrong thread. Keep your political diarrhea to the politics thread, there's a good boy. Edited June 25 by faraway saint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlucifer Posted June 26 Report Share Posted June 26 (edited) Stolen... But still funny. Could have reversed this for England, almost. Edited June 26 by stlucifer Added observation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted June 27 Author Report Share Posted June 27 McCann in commentary, said it was very positive that we had completed 172 passes in the first half , much more than Hungary. He never mentioned that most of these passes were between our defenders and goalkeeper. Then the ball would be blootered up the park ànd collected by the opposition. Our possession is boring, irrelevant and pointless. Shite Scotland since the 1870's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlucifer Posted June 27 Report Share Posted June 27 (edited) Mr. Clarke's book of tactics. Edited June 27 by stlucifer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlucifer Posted June 27 Report Share Posted June 27 1 hour ago, shull said: McCann in commentary, said it was very positive that we had completed 172 passes in the first half , much more than Hungary. He never mentioned that most of these passes were between our defenders and goalkeeper. Then the ball would be blootered up the park ànd collected by the opposition. Our possession is boring, irrelevant and pointless. Shite Scotland since the 1870's This was found in The Stuttgart Arena. I can't imagine who it belonged to. 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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