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32 minutes ago, Prague Buddie said:

The Czechs were decimated in both matches against us. 

First game their entire team. 

Second game 6 of their best players. 

They would have beaten us home and away, if it weren't for that. 

A much better side who are light years ahead of us. 

As are Israel. 

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Hilarious. A couple of defeats and all of a sudden there's this desperate need to take apart and downplay our victories.

Is there another country out there as good at self-abuse as the typical Scot?

And we wonder why we fail as a nation at things like football....

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1 hour ago, Prague Buddie said:

The Czechs were decimated in both matches against us. 

First game their entire team. 

Second game 6 of their best players. 

They would have beaten us home and away, if it weren't for that. 

A much better side who are light years ahead of us. 

You neatly side step the fact that we also had players out.

Why this constant need for self-flagellation?

We won both games. Period. Therr is no "aye but what if..."

What next? Do we undermine our Euro qualification by saying "Aye but....if Serbia had fans in the stadium we'd have lost"?

Can we not just enjoy a wee bit of success for 5 minutes after 22 years without feeling the need to wallow in the shite?

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24 minutes ago, oaksoft said:

You neatly side step the fact that we also had players out.

Why this constant need for self-flagellation?

We won both games. Period. Therr is no "aye but what if..."

What next? Do we undermine our Euro qualification by saying "Aye but....if Serbia had fans in the stadium we'd have lost"?

Can we not just enjoy a wee bit of success for 5 minutes after 22 years without feeling the need to wallow in the shite?

For 85 mins against Serbia, it was the best I have seen Scotland play for a good number of years. At the final whistle my Mrs had to scrape me of the ceiling. I am still on cloud nine about qualifying. 

However, I am also realistic. We have a long way to go. We are still losing to the Slovakia's and Israel's of this world. Teams which an almost (minus their best striker) full strength Czech side disposed of comfortably. I am also fairly confident a full strength Czech side will dispose of us easily at the Euros (I hope I am wrong). 

Yes, we qualified, which I am elated about after suffering while following Scotland home and away for the last 20 years. But it merely papers over the cracks. Clarke’s results haven't been so spectacular. And most of the performances have been dross. 

Those 85mins against Serbia have given me hope though! 

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7 hours ago, Prague Buddie said:

For 85 mins against Serbia, it was the best I have seen Scotland play for a good number of years. At the final whistle my Mrs had to scrape me of the ceiling. I am still on cloud nine about qualifying. 

However, I am also realistic. We have a long way to go. We are still losing to the Slovakia's and Israel's of this world. Teams which an almost (minus their best striker) full strength Czech side disposed of comfortably. I am also fairly confident a full strength Czech side will dispose of us easily at the Euros (I hope I am wrong). 

Yes, we qualified, which I am elated about after suffering while following Scotland home and away for the last 20 years. But it merely papers over the cracks. Clarke’s results haven't been so spectacular. And most of the performances have been dross. 

Those 85mins against Serbia have given me hope though! 

Really?

2-1 and 1-0 against Israel..........................not what I'd call comfortable. 

3-1 and 2-0 against Slovakia, better but nothing I'd be worried about if I was a top team. 

As for us, I'd see it pretty close, certainly not "easy".

Time will tell. 

Oh, you must be watching a different team as we have slowly, and we came from a low start, improved.

I have already made the case we haven't played any real strong teams, that includes the Czech republic, but as we are in this level of teams we've only lost 2 from the last 11.

We are starting to look like a decent unit, we don't have a "world class" player like Wales who have Bale for example, so Clarke has built a strong squad who are starting to believe in each other.

Aye, the glory days are long gone but we are certainly in a brighter place than we have been for some time. 

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On 11/19/2020 at 7:11 PM, faraway saint said:

A few decent points in this article IMO.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55003407

Certainly none from you though. You would think an inveterate gambler might try to either attend matches or at least brush up on his football knowledge before lining the bookmakers satchels. 😂

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The new Chelsea manager has suggested Scotland take their young starlet Billy Gilmour to the Euros.
Gilmour has played 34 MINUTES for Chelsea this season. 
Dear Chelsea manager, shut the feck up. 
Not even close, he's played 399 MINUTES.

I await, your "I'm out" reply

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6 minutes ago, Cookie Monster said:

Not even close, he's played 399 MINUTES. emoji1787.png

I await, your "I'm out" reply emoji14.png

In the league..............:byebye

I don't count games against Mickey Mouse teams in cups that the "big" teams don't take seriously. :lol:

Even if you're that desperate to try to make a point, just over 4 complete games a season...............................................:1eye

 

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In the league..............:byebye
I don't count games against Mickey Mouse teams in cups that the "big" teams don't take seriously. 
Even if you're that desperate to try to make a point, just over 4 complete games a season...............................................:1eye
 
So you don't count the minutes in the Mickey Mouse Champions League that the big teams don't take seriously.

I'm out

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9 minutes ago, Cookie Monster said:

So you don't count the minutes in the Mickey Mouse Champions League that the big teams don't take seriously. emoji1787.png

I'm out emoji848.png

Oh aye, 90 minutes in a meaningless game against Krasnodar (aye, giants) when Chelsea played almost a reserve side and a whole 5 mins against Seville.  :lol:

Good idea your out.....................out of your tiny mind. :byebye

A point well made. :1eye

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3 hours ago, faraway saint said:

The new Chelsea manager has suggested Scotland take their young starlet Billy Gilmour to the Euros.

Gilmour has played 34 MINUTES for Chelsea this season. 

Dear Chelsea manager, shut the feck up. 

He’s probably trying to get him publicity to punt him.

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Just now, Slash said:

He’s probably trying to get him publicity to punt him.

Don't misunderstand my recent posts, I do think Gilmour is excellent potential but, aye, it's rich another manager trying to tell the Scotland manager to play a player who doesn't get any game time at his club. 

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On 3/21/2021 at 7:13 AM, faraway saint said:

The new Chelsea manager has suggested Scotland take their young starlet Billy Gilmour to the Euros.

Gilmour has played 34 MINUTES for Chelsea this season. 

Dear Chelsea manager, shut the feck up. 

 

On 3/21/2021 at 8:41 AM, Cookie Monster said:

Not even close, he's played 399 MINUTES. emoji1787.png

I await, your "I'm out" reply emoji14.png

I guess what is more relevant in terms of FS’s post, is that the particular manager in question has all but frozen Gilmour out since he arrived. Not even been getting on the bench in league matches. Most of Gilmour’s minutes this season were provided by Lampard.

So whilst I agree with the sentiment of Tuchel’s comment (I’d like to see a talent like Gilmour given a squad place) I also agree with FS that he should shut the f**k up until he starts putting his money where his mouth is. 

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The football gods seem to be smiling on us.

We got a rub of the green against the Czechs and it seem Austria will be losing quite a few German based players for the big game tomorrow night.

It would be a great start to get 3 points with two "easier" game coming up straight after, although we do struggle against Israel. (Draw almost a cert)

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2 hours ago, faraway saint said:

The football gods seem to be smiling on us.

We got a rub of the green against the Czechs and it seem Austria will be losing quite a few German based players for the big game tomorrow night.

It would be a great start to get 3 points with two "easier" game coming up straight after, although we do struggle against Israel. (Draw almost a cert)

I must have misheard as I thought the Beeb said the German contingent were ok to travel now.

ETA. It appears not the old firm believe this too.

Austria set to face Scotland with full-strength squad - Not The Old Firm

Edited by stlucifer

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I must have misheard as I thought the Beeb said the German contingent were ok to travel now.
ETA. It appears not the old firm believe this too.
Austria set to face Scotland with full-strength squad - Not The Old Firm
Yep, the Germany based players are ok to travel.

Faraway probably misheard due to not having had enough of CM's cookies today resulting in a lower than normal sugar level and a bit of "airheadedness".

Edit: Sorted.

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2 hours ago, faraway saint said:

Scotland 23/10, Austria 23/20 and the draw 12/5

Oh, tempting. :rolleyes:

That is a very tempting price on Scotland. I know fine well Austria are a decent side, but they’re not elite. Scotland have been decent enough recently too though. I was expecting much more even odds than that. Maybe Austria slight favourites even. 

I’ll maybe stick us on as part of a wee treble. 

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