Drew Posted August 9, 2017 Report Share Posted August 9, 2017 3 minutes ago, FTOF said: I'm sure he already has. When Eckersley was fit he played him last year, when a fair proportion of fans wanted Stelios on the park. I like Eckersley as a player and feel that he's one of the best LB's in the league. He's generally solid and dependable. Difficult decision, but it's great to have strength in depth at the back. I'd prefer to see Stelios start every game at LB if available. Eckersley is not as quick, offensive-minded, or as effective at getting under the skin of our opponents. Is he a better defensive player? Not so sure about that. He is a solid full-back, but Stelios offers us more overall. Eckersley was very good for us at the end of the season, but when Stelios plays he can light up a game and turn it round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soctty Posted August 9, 2017 Report Share Posted August 9, 2017 1 minute ago, shull said: As well as a sad little man ? A sad, strange little man - yeah. Things aren't going well for you... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted August 9, 2017 Report Share Posted August 9, 2017 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Drew said: I'd prefer to see Stelios start every game at LB if available. Eckersley is not as quick, offensive-minded, or as effective at getting under the skin of our opponents. Is he a better defensive player? Not so sure about that. He is a solid full-back, but Stelios offers us more overall. Eckersley was very good for us at the end of the season, but when Stelios plays he can light up a game and turn it round. I agree. The Morton fans aren't confident about their defence. Who better to put them to the sword than a combination of Morgan and Stelios with their trickery? Edited August 9, 2017 by FTOF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss_Saint Posted August 9, 2017 Report Share Posted August 9, 2017 (edited) To be honest I am happy with either Eckersley or Stelios at LB, both are superb players. However When Eckersley plays I just know he is a solid dependable player, but I get genuinely excited any time Stelios picks up the ball as he is a Maverick and you do not know whether it is the solid dependable player who has got the ball or the genius driving at the opposition defence causing panic and goals. For me what Stelios does to the fans is worth more. SS To add to that Stelios has the potential to go into the hall of fame if he continues to do what he does , Eckersley does not. Edited August 9, 2017 by Swiss_Saint add to post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud the Baker Posted August 9, 2017 Report Share Posted August 9, 2017 Just now, Swiss_Saint said: To be honest I am happy with either Eckersley or Stelios at LB, both are superb players. However When Eckersley plays I just know he is a solid dependable player, but I get genuinely excited any time Stelios picks up the ball as he is a Maverick and you do not know whether it is the solid dependable player who has got the ball or the genius driving at the opposition defence causing panic and goals. For me what Stelios does to the fans is worth more. SS Swiss_Saint supports Super Stelios in alliteration shocker! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddieinEK Posted August 9, 2017 Report Share Posted August 9, 2017 Eckersley was the preferred choice last season and rightly so. Neither Stelios or Irvine deserve to be dropped and won't be imo. Eckersley will have to be patient and Stelios/Irvine will have to really perform to the best of their abilities to keep the starting spots. Moreso in the case of Stelios, this excites me as I think Jack can coach him to a much better all round player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ged62 Posted August 10, 2017 Report Share Posted August 10, 2017 IMO Eckersley is more solid at LB but I do love how Stelios gets forward & takes defenders on & not shy to take a shot at goal. Hard decision for Jack Ross but sure he'll make the right decision. It's great to have the choice though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TediousTom Posted August 10, 2017 Report Share Posted August 10, 2017 18 hours ago, BuddieinEK said: Eckersley was the preferred choice last season and rightly so. Neither Stelios or Irvine deserve to be dropped and won't be imo. Eckersley will have to be patient and Stelios/Irvine will have to really perform to the best of their abilities to keep the starting spots. Moreso in the case of Stelios, this excites me as I think Jack can coach him to a much better all round player. I disagree Stellios does not need to be coached. Stellios is a wonderful footballer with wonderful natural abilities that manifest themselves in the most wonderful of ways. As wonderful as our coach is at our wonderful club one must stress that a truly wonderful player such as Stellios is surely too "wonderful" even for our wonderful coaches. If you read that and you are still unsure let me assure that that I hold Stellios in high regard, wonderfully high regard! PS He appears to be a decent bloke as well....how wonderful! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlucifer Posted August 10, 2017 Report Share Posted August 10, 2017 A super star with time for supporters. But enough about my grandson. Stelios is special. Enjoy him while we have him for, if he plays as well as he can, I'm sure there'll be a queue of clubs in the wings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 Shhhhhhhhhhhhh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isle Of Bute Saint Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 20 minutes ago, faraway saint said: Shhhhhhhhhhhhh! Great player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrshire Saints Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 22 minutes ago, faraway saint said: Shhhhhhhhhhhhh! Meaning ???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 3 minutes ago, Ayrshire Saints said: Meaning ???? Was he playing today? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrshire Saints Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 1 minute ago, faraway saint said: Was he playing today? Everyone who was there would know the answer to that ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 14 minutes ago, Ayrshire Saints said: Everyone who was there would know the answer to that ! Aye? Great answer. So, our defence was torn a new one yet the saviour never gets a mention? Stelios is, aye, a maverick but we won't win the league, or a play off spot, with him playing most games, IMO. Thank feck Ross knows who our best defender is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnus Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 (edited) 10 minutes ago, faraway saint said: Aye? Great answer. So, our defence was torn a new one yet the saviour never gets a mention? Stelios is, aye, a maverick but we won't win the league, or a play off spot, with him playing most games, IMO. Thank feck Ross knows who our best defender is. I thought Stelios was quiet but reasonably effective. Usual well read interceptions. Don't think there can be any negative conclusions drawn from his performance today. The whole team was way off form particularly through the middle. Stelios will be a big player for us this season. Edited August 12, 2017 by magnus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 2 minutes ago, magnus said: I thought Stelios was quiet but reasonably effective. Usual well read interceptions. Don't think there can be any negative conclusions drawn from his performance today. The whole team was way off form particularly through the middle. Stelios will be a big player for us this season. I think if he's used when the games suit his style, then yes but no week in week out. IMO, he isn't first choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnus Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 Just now, faraway saint said: I think if he's used when the games suit his style, then yes but no week in week out. IMO, he isn't first choice. It's a credit to Jack that we have a choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 1 minute ago, magnus said: It's a credit to Jack that we have a choice. Aye, Ross and me are as one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrshire Saints Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 Only an idiot who wasn't within 50 miles of Cappielow would be singling out Stellios for criticism today. If you dont go, don't criticise. As a unit the defence were poor today but no reason to single out Stelios. Typical reaction from a faraway fan relying on second hand information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Ayrshire Saints said: Only an idiot who wasn't within 50 miles of Cappielow would be singling out Stellios for criticism today. If you dont go, don't criticise. As a unit the defence were poor today but no reason to single out Stelios. Typical reaction from a faraway fan relying on second hand information. Who said single out? You need to stop getting upset and making stuff up. Stick to what you know, sinking the bevvy. PS Sorry, do you want me to underline everything? PPS I watched on periscope.................does that count? Edited August 12, 2017 by faraway saint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrshire Saints Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 No it doesn't count and sorry for the under lines and I am not on the bevvy as you call it. Stellios wasn't any worse than anyone else and he played in a defence that gave away 2 pens and had a man sent off so he wasn't close to being our worst defender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 2 minutes ago, Ayrshire Saints said: No it doesn't count and sorry for the under lines and I am not on the bevvy as you call it. Stellios wasn't any worse than anyone else and he played in a defence that gave away 2 pens and had a man sent off so he wasn't close to being our worst defender. Did I say he was? You're making stuff up again. I'm making the point that Stelios isn't, IMO and the manager, our super hero. He has some attributes that are useful but his weakness is that he can't defend and, again, we won't be contenders with him I the team every week. Apologies for the bevvy reference, didn't think you could misunderstand being sober. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReturnOf isma is god Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 3 minutes ago, faraway saint said: Did I say he was? You're making stuff up again. I'm making the point that Stelios isn't, IMO and the manager, our super hero. He has some attributes that are useful but his weakness is that he can't defend and, again, we won't be contenders with him I the team every week. Apologies for the bevvy reference, didn't think you could misunderstand being sober. I'm with this ayr guy yer a wank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrshire Saints Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 9 minutes ago, faraway saint said: Did I say he was? You're making stuff up again. I'm making the point that Stelios isn't, IMO and the manager, our super hero. He has some attributes that are useful but his weakness is that he can't defend and, again, we won't be contenders with him I the team every week. Apologies for the bevvy reference, didn't think you could misunderstand being sober. "our super hero" wtf ??? You appear to me to be singling him out, he can't defend you claim. You are not moaning about the real defensive culprits today so I would say you are singling Stellios out. Baird, McKenzie way worse today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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