salmonbuddie Posted May 19, 2017 Report Share Posted May 19, 2017 It would be funny if they brought that in and then it turned out that they lost half of their own votes due to them being the result of voter fraud. It's more likely that they'll lose their votes because the older people who vote for them don't have a driving licence or passport. Or bus pass, because...plebs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salmonbuddie Posted May 19, 2017 Report Share Posted May 19, 2017 Again? Oh, wait, they haven't actually been caught for that yet. Sorry, not caught, silly me. Prosecuted. They haven't actually been prosecuted for electoral fraud yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted May 20, 2017 Report Share Posted May 20, 2017 In addition to looking to re introduce fox hunting, May's manifesto also drops the UK ban on ivory trading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud the Baker Posted May 20, 2017 Report Share Posted May 20, 2017 10 minutes ago, TPAFKATS said: In addition to looking to re introduce fox hunting, May's manifesto also drops the UK ban on ivory trading. I'm looking forward to the reintroduction of opium dens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlucifer Posted May 21, 2017 Report Share Posted May 21, 2017 On 5/19/2017 at 0:37 PM, mcdowell76 said: At the end of the day, Corporation Tax is effectively paid by the end consumer. And do you really believe that it is right to increase state pensions by 2.5% even if both inflation and wages growth is lower than this? Cutting corporation tax only increased profits. At the end of the day, prices will be reflected by consumer uptake. To compete many of the large companies will absorb it with slightly lower profit margins. And, as for pensions, I actually agree that a double lock makes more sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud the Baker Posted May 21, 2017 Report Share Posted May 21, 2017 1 hour ago, stlucifer said: Cutting corporation tax only increased profits. At the end of the day, prices will be reflected by consumer uptake. To compete many of the large companies will absorb it with slightly lower profit margins. And, as for pensions, I actually agree that a double lock makes more sense. Grey Power! It's only one poll but even the modest proposals May made on Thursday are a bit controversial with the aspirational.......... Quote Labour has closed within nine points of the Conservatives in a new poll that will set nerves jangling in Tory high command. The YouGov survey for The Sunday Times — the first by the pollster since the Conservative manifesto was published on Thursday — puts the Tories down to 44%, with Labour up to 35%. It is the smallest advantage for May this year and suggests that the publication of the general election manifesto has slashed her lead in half since last weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlucifer Posted May 21, 2017 Report Share Posted May 21, 2017 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Bud the Baker said: Grey Power! It's only one poll but even the modest proposals May made on Thursday are a bit controversial with the aspirational.......... Quote "Labour has closed within nine points of the Conservatives in a new poll that will set nerves jangling in Tory high command. The YouGov survey for The Sunday Times — the first by the pollster since the Conservative manifesto was published on Thursday — puts the Tories down to 44%, with Labour up to 35%. It is the smallest advantage for May this year and suggests that the publication of the general election manifesto has slashed her lead in half since last weekend." This is quite normal and the lead is usually extended as the vote gets closer. It's also the case that pollsters tend to overestimate the labour vote. The best thing to do is vote for independence then there's no need to worry what middle England do. Edited May 21, 2017 by stlucifer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougJamie Posted May 22, 2017 Report Share Posted May 22, 2017 On 18/05/2017 at 4:45 PM, oaksoft said: For the overwhelming majority of people things are not pretty bleak at all. What I personally want to hear is a bit less whining and a bit more silence from those who don't really need help so that as a society we can focus our efforts solely on those who do. Give me a world like that and I will be happy. We have too many thrashing around taking up precoius time, money and effort who simply don't need it and others in dire need suffer because of it. Oh good you are now a voice for 7.6 B Humans............. FFS on this one your the example of exactly what the problem is You really are in a self absorbed bubble aren't you, you talking so much small minded drivel, I will leave this with you.... all well , I am on the Bus , not my problem Make a good epitaph for u Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud the Baker Posted May 22, 2017 Report Share Posted May 22, 2017 Tories revising their Social Care plans 4 days after launching them in their manifesto. It'll be funny if this issue which even Blair was unwilling to tackle during his "King Tony" phase scuppers TM's chances of landslide majority! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted May 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2017 I like when politicians change their minds, climb-down seems to be the term of choice. It shows they recognise they've made a mistake, unlike all the voters who are perfect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isle Of Bute Saint Posted May 22, 2017 Report Share Posted May 22, 2017 10 hours ago, faraway saint said: I like when politicians change their minds, climb-down seems to be the term of choice. It shows they recognise they've made a mistake, unlike all the voters who are perfect. Mistake is one thing a policy not thought out properly then changed due to public pressure. Now she can't answer what the cap will be. This not her first back tracking ether. She sings how strong she is does not look that way to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougJamie Posted May 22, 2017 Report Share Posted May 22, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Isle Of Bute Saint said: Mistake is one thing a policy not thought out properly then changed due to public pressure. Now she can't answer what the cap will be. This not her first back tracking ether. She sings how strong she is does not look that way to me. However she could say she will shoot all cats and still get in with a 100 majority... Wish I was a Tory it must be great fun Edited May 22, 2017 by DougJamie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Posted May 22, 2017 Report Share Posted May 22, 2017 The Tories are unravelling. Surely Corbyn can't pull this off, can he? I don't reckon so, but it might well be a lot closer than most were predicting when May announced this snap election. If that decision was to turn round and bite her on the arse, I might actually drown in my own tears of laughter. May is completely out of her depth, and the other 27 EU leaders will see that all too clearly. This Brexit journey is going to be an absolute car crash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted May 22, 2017 Report Share Posted May 22, 2017 7 hours ago, DougJamie said: Oh good you are now a voice for 7.6 B Humans............. FFS on this one your the example of exactly what the problem is You really are in a self absorbed bubble aren't you, you talking so much small minded drivel, I will leave this with you.... all well , I am on the Bus , not my problem Make a good epitaph for u Why are you talking about 7.6Bn people for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud the Baker Posted May 22, 2017 Report Share Posted May 22, 2017 (edited) 10 hours ago, faraway saint said: I like when politicians change their minds, climb-down seems to be the term of choice. It shows they recognise they've made a mistake, unlike all the voters who are perfect. Except TM denies anything has changed! ****************** It's about protecting the OAP's of the Home Counties who will be getting bumped off PDQ if their offspring sense there's a chance of missing out on a substantial inheritance. Another case of LondonLand's needs being prioritised above everyone else! Edited May 22, 2017 by Bud the Baker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted May 22, 2017 Report Share Posted May 22, 2017 Weak and wobbly May had a bit of a 'mare on the Andrew Neil interview Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isle Of Bute Saint Posted May 22, 2017 Report Share Posted May 22, 2017 Very Robotic on the Andrew Neil interview. Strong , strong , strong , strong ffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxbar_bud Posted May 22, 2017 Report Share Posted May 22, 2017 Weak and wobbly May had a bit of a 'mare on the Andrew Neil interview What the last week or so has shown is that the people that pull the strings for the Torys are absolutely correct in advising May not to do any leaders debates. She is an absolute bombscare live and cannot handle any difficult question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isle Of Bute Saint Posted May 22, 2017 Report Share Posted May 22, 2017 19 minutes ago, foxbar_bud said: What the last week or so has shown is that the people that pull the strings for the Torys are absolutely correct in advising May not to do any leaders debates. She is an absolute bombscare live and cannot handle any difficult question. Safe hands for the biggest deal in our life time Brexit. Really scary to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud the Baker Posted May 22, 2017 Report Share Posted May 22, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, foxbar_bud said: What the last week or so has shown is that the people that pull the strings for the Torys are absolutely correct in advising May not to do any leaders debates. She is an absolute bombscare live and cannot handle any difficult question. Very true as I've pointed out before she only got the job by avoiding the mass back-stabbing that followed the Euro Referendum. ************************** In the Scottish Leaders debate Ruth Davidson looked ill at ease discussing Tory Social policy last night, especially when questioned by the guy with Asperger's and that was before today's about turn - what happened to the jolly Tory who smiled through the 2015 GE campaign? I thought NS handled herself competently without getting narky (see RD above) and no-one would have bothered much about the socialite/nurse/foodbanker if party hack Joanna Cherry hadn't jumped the gun about Tory party connections and subsequently been forced to apologize and retract her statement. I think everyone in the room could smell the ham coming from the nurse and a bit more restraint from JC would have seen the story fizzle out as the gross exaggeration it was, she should leave the online fight to the nutters who post on football forums except none of us ever retract, anything, ever! Outside of that I thought Pat Harvie of the Greens sounded assured and competent but have Labour got nothing more constructive to school KD in than that unconvincing "Mrs. Angry" routine? Edited May 22, 2017 by Bud the Baker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougJamie Posted May 24, 2017 Report Share Posted May 24, 2017 On 22/05/2017 at 5:55 PM, oaksoft said: Why are you talking about 7.6Bn people for? After Manchester mate, any gov that get shot of those bastards has my vote Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcdowell76 Posted May 24, 2017 Report Share Posted May 24, 2017 'mon the Tories! No to independence! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beyond our ken Posted May 24, 2017 Report Share Posted May 24, 2017 2 hours ago, mcdowell76 said: 'mon the Tories! No to independence! who do you want to be dependant on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougJamie Posted May 24, 2017 Report Share Posted May 24, 2017 (edited) 38 minutes ago, beyond our ken said: who do you want to be dependant on? Good point Mayhem creates Mayhem= Diversion..... It really is a shitty world Edited May 24, 2017 by DougJamie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salmonbuddie Posted May 24, 2017 Report Share Posted May 24, 2017 'mon the Tories! No to independence! #thichasfcukPavlovian now, can't help myself... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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