faraway saint Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 Mentioned MacKenzie on the match day thread. Watched him closely over the last few weeks, looks, to me, the ultimate team player. His goal threat, we are due a few penalties as he's getting obstructed/hauled at almost every corner, and his willingness to be all over the park is a shining example to other players. Hope he stays with us for years to come as he could be a St Mirren great. Already helping Baird who was getting plenty of criticism, some warranted, some not so much, and I believe for us to have areal successful team we need a strong steady defence. We're still not out of the woods but, whatever happens, I hope MacKenzie is a Saints player for a long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud the Baker Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 Only on a one year deal. Would be happy to see him sign another one with us but given his age and fragility I wouldn't want to commit to a longer one. If he's impressed one of the top flight clubs I'd expect him to be away (bit like Watson last season) if he's going to be in the Championship I don't see him doing any better than us (unless Dundee Utd. stay down) and hopefully our form since February would make him stick rather than twist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted April 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 4 hours ago, Bud the Baker said: Only on a one year deal. Would be happy to see him sign another one with us but given his age and fragility I wouldn't want to commit to a longer one. If he's impressed one of the top flight clubs I'd expect him to be away (bit like Watson last season) if he's going to be in the Championship I don't see him doing any better than us (unless Dundee Utd. stay down) and hopefully our form since February would make him stick rather than twist. One year would do, Baird, and others would benefit so ok for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soctty Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 Mentioned MacKenzie on the match day thread. Watched him closely over the last few weeks, looks, to me, the ultimate team player. His goal threat, we are due a few penalties as he's getting obstructed/hauled at almost every corner, and his willingness to be all over the park is a shining example to other players. Hope he stays with us for years to come as he could be a St Mirren great. Already helping Baird who was getting plenty of criticism, some warranted, some not so much, and I believe for us to have areal successful team we need a strong steady defence. We're still not out of the woods but, whatever happens, I hope MacKenzie is a Saints player for a long time. Was my choice for player of the year. Even when we struggled, he was consistently impressive, even with Andy Webster alongside him.Only hope we can get him signed to another deal, I'd give him another two years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bender rodriguez Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 He has been excellent last 10 weeks if big Harry is here next year too we will be solid at the back . Keep our young midfielders also we will defo be challenging at other end of table next season. Unfortunately i doubt we will have all our stars from the last quarter of season here next year but hey ho we should enjoy it just now anyway. Cannae wait to easter road next week ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pod Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 7 hours ago, faraway saint said: One year would do, Baird, and others would benefit so ok for me. Two years might convince him, on the assumption we stay up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 14 hours ago, faraway saint said: Mentioned MacKenzie on the match day thread. Watched him closely over the last few weeks, looks, to me, the ultimate team player. His goal threat, we are due a few penalties as he's getting obstructed/hauled at almost every corner, and his willingness to be all over the park is a shining example to other players. Hope he stays with us for years to come as he could be a St Mirren great. Already helping Baird who was getting plenty of criticism, some warranted, some not so much, and I believe for us to have areal successful team we need a strong steady defence. We're still not out of the woods but, whatever happens, I hope MacKenzie is a Saints player for a long time. Once we survive next week or via the playoffs I hope virtually every single player stays because IMHO this is an SPL standard team who will walk this division next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garf Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 I think this is a special group of players and he's one of the best. I'd be surprised if he hasn't caught the eye of a Premiership team. A couple of mates of mine, who knew very little about the St Mirren team, came with me to the Ayr game and both immediately picked him out as a guy that had played at much higher level. Maybe he will make a move similar to the one that Watson made last summers and, like Watson, you couldn't grudge him it, but last season season didn't hold the promise of working with coaches like Jack Ross and James Fowler and a talented, hungry group of players. I would hope that that would be a factor when he's making his decision. I'm sure he does want to play at a higher level, but I'm convinced he can do that with us in the not too distant future. Hopefully he will be too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintnextlifetime Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Saint Garf said: I think this is a special group of players and he's one of the best. I'd be surprised if he hasn't caught the eye of a Premiership team. A couple of mates of mine, who knew very little about the St Mirren team, came with me to the Ayr game and both immediately picked him out as a guy that had played at much higher level. Maybe he will make a move similar to the one that Watson made last summers and, like Watson, you couldn't grudge him it, but last season season didn't hold the promise of working with coaches like Jack Ross and James Fowler and a talented, hungry group of players. I would hope that that would be a factor when he's making his decision. I'm sure he does want to play at a higher level, but I'm convinced he can do that with us in the not too distant future. Hopefully he will be too. Per the letter from Jack about giving him and the team support , prior to the Range Rovers game , the players want to stay if we stay up . . Edited May 1, 2017 by saintnextlifetime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 The big guy absolutely strolls through games. Majestic! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irvine_buddie Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 If we could keep the same back 4 as we have at the moment with Davis in for Baird and Stellios and Baird as backup then it's a defence which could challenge for the title. Not convinved about O'Brien though, think he is a good shot stopper but looks shaky with crosses and doesn't command his box well enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, irvine_buddie said: If we could keep the same back 4 as we have at the moment with Davis in for Baird and Stellios and Baird as backup then it's a defence which could challenge for the title. Not convinved about O'Brien though, think he is a good shot stopper but looks shaky with crosses and doesn't command his box well enough. I think Billy will only improve. Yes, he isn't the finished article, but he has plenty of positive attributes that suggest he'll kick on. Edited May 1, 2017 by Drew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlucifer Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Drew said: I think Billy will only improve. Yes, he isn't the finished article, but he has plenty of positive attributes that suggest he'll kick on. I agree. I just wonder if he's learning from the wrong coach though. No offence to Jamie but I feel Billy has regressed since he started between the Saints' sticks. Edited May 1, 2017 by stlucifer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 8 minutes ago, stlucifer said: I agree. I just wonder if he's learning from the wrong coach though. No offence to Jamie but I feel Billy has regressed since he started between the Saints' sticks. Maybe, aye. One other thing that has to be considered is the fact the Billy was brought in when we were staring into the abyss. He was launched straight in as literally the last line of defence, in what had to be an immensely pressured playing environment for a young keeper. When you factor that in, I think he has done pretty damn well, overall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irvine_buddie Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 I still think he's been a lot better than Langfield and Gallagher were but there is certainly room for improvement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxbar_bud Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 He's certainly not regressed but I do think some clubs are targeting his uneasiness at coming for crosses. For me that's something that can be improved. His shot stopping has been good since he came in and his kicking is very very good. There's not one keeper at this level that's perfect. Look at Raith keeper from Saturday who was poor for a few of their goals, Fleming from Ayr has had some decent reviews but I don't think many Ayr fans would be disappointed to lose him as he's very error prone. Same for Dumbarton keeper who's on loan from Hamilton All that factored in I would keep Billy as he should continue to improve, guess it depends who's available Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 12 minutes ago, foxbar_bud said: He's certainly not regressed but I do think some clubs are targeting his uneasiness at coming for crosses. For me that's something that can be improved. His shot stopping has been good since he came in and his kicking is very very good. There's not one keeper at this level that's perfect. Look at Raith keeper from Saturday who was poor for a few of their goals, Fleming from Ayr has had some decent reviews but I don't think many Ayr fans would be disappointed to lose him as he's very error prone. Same for Dumbarton keeper who's on loan from Hamilton All that factored in I would keep Billy as he should continue to improve, guess it depends who's available Alan Martin was released by Hamilton last year and signed a one year deal last August for Dumbarton. AFAIK the Dumbarton fans rate him very highly. I've been impressed by him when I've seen him play against us. We could do worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soctty Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 2 hours ago, Drew said: I think Billy will only improve. Yes, he isn't the finished article, but he has plenty of positive attributes that suggest he'll kick on. Agree wholeheartedly with this. If coached correctly, he can improve greatly - dealing with crosses is his one big issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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