Isle Of Bute Saint Posted May 18, 2017 Report Share Posted May 18, 2017 Damming article in today's Herald regarding his public slating of Raith Players which started after we thumped Raith. Remember at the time thinking it was too strong and that he would lose the dressing room. Would he have been so critical if on a longer contract ? Can anyone confirm he knocked back the St Mirren job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pod Posted May 18, 2017 Report Share Posted May 18, 2017 57 minutes ago, Isle Of Bute Saint said: Damming article in today's Herald regarding his public slating of Raith Players which started after we thumped Raith. Remember at the time thinking it was too strong and that he would lose the dressing room. Would he have been so critical if on a longer contract ? Can anyone confirm he knocked back the St Mirren job. If he did, I'm glad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrshire Saints Posted May 18, 2017 Report Share Posted May 18, 2017 Not sure about Hughes for us but Raith interviewed Ross when they appointed Locke - BIG mistake that in hindsight !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintnextlifetime Posted May 18, 2017 Report Share Posted May 18, 2017 2 hours ago, Isle Of Bute Saint said: Damming article in today's Herald regarding his public slating of Raith Players which started after we thumped Raith. Remember at the time thinking it was too strong and that he would lose the dressing room. Would he have been so critical if on a longer contract ? Can anyone confirm he knocked back the St Mirren job. I believe that he said publicly , that he wasn't interested in the Saint Mirren FC job. However , I don't think he was interviewed for the post . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougJamie Posted May 18, 2017 Report Share Posted May 18, 2017 Sorry IOB when I saw ur thread I just thought it would be followed with "is a prick" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callum Gilhooley Posted May 18, 2017 Report Share Posted May 18, 2017 I like big Yogi and i have to say , i would have been among those who would have been reasonably happy to have had him as our boss. However, as far as this issue is concerned, although he may well have been right in his opinion of his players , he demonstrated very poor management skills in what he said publicly and how he said it. In hindsight , we dodged a Bullet here. Yogi has made a right royal James Hunt of himself and will have done his future job prospects no good at all . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud the Baker Posted May 19, 2017 Report Share Posted May 19, 2017 (edited) The manager picks the team & decides the tactics so unless it always seems like the final option when the manager lays into his team. Having said that everyone accepted it was a woeful performance by Rovers and it was make or break for Yogi/Raith. No real sympathy 'cos if they had stayed up it would've been us in the playoffs. If rumours are to be believed disharmony had been bubbling under for a while & apparently there were words between Hughes and the players after Brechin beat them! Edited May 19, 2017 by Bud the Baker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevo_smfc Posted May 19, 2017 Report Share Posted May 19, 2017 His post match was a great watch. Not from a gloating perspective, though because it carried a lot of honesty and truth and i genuinely like Yogi. Remember Butcher doing a similar thing and Hibs' fate was sealed to relegation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaside Nipper Posted May 20, 2017 Report Share Posted May 20, 2017 Yogi, an enthusiastic painter and decorator......???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlucifer Posted May 21, 2017 Report Share Posted May 21, 2017 There were some who actually claimed it was an "honest, passionate, heart on the sleeve" interview. I said at the time it was ill-conceived, badly thought out, (if thought out at all), and would likely affect the players. It wouldn't surprise me if that sort of attitude was one of the big contributory factors in the collapse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlucifer Posted May 21, 2017 Report Share Posted May 21, 2017 2 hours ago, Slartibartfast said: Honest, passionate, heart on the sleeve comments tend to be ill-conceived, badly thought out and affect those being commented upon. Whether it's the right way to do things depends a lot on the accuracy of the statements and the attitudes of those being commented upon. Any GOOD manager says these things inhouse. Not blasting all and sundry in the media spotlight. He could have still got his message across without the open annihilation of his entire squad by claiming they thought they were better than the were. No manager can expect a team to work for him when he decides to deflect from his inadequacies by attacking his players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlucifer Posted May 22, 2017 Report Share Posted May 22, 2017 10 hours ago, Slartibartfast said: So when you said the bit below you were actually saying that if he had said those ill-conceived, badly thought out things in private then it wouldn't affect the players? Any player can accept criticism when they know they've underachieved. Not being openly lambasted in public. And waiting to tell them means the manager has time to find the right way to tell them they've let themselves down. Still saying much the same but in a more controlled manner and maybe with some constructive input. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaside Nipper Posted May 22, 2017 Report Share Posted May 22, 2017 Any GOOD manager says these things inhouse. Not blasting all and sundry in the media spotlight. He could have still got his message across without the open annihilation of his entire squad by claiming they thought they were better than the were. No manager can expect a team to work for him when he decides to deflect from his inadequacies by attacking his players. Maybe, erm, glossing over his own inadequacies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlucifer Posted May 22, 2017 Report Share Posted May 22, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Slartibartfast said: So not what he said but where he said it? I assume the latter statement in your profile, re no limits, actually refers to yourself? Edited May 22, 2017 by stlucifer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlucifer Posted May 22, 2017 Report Share Posted May 22, 2017 40 minutes ago, Slartibartfast said: Always, but that's irrelevant. I'm trying to figure out if you think it's what he said or where he said it that's the issue, as you seem to be changing your mind. You originally said that it was his comments then you said he should have said it in private. It's not WHAT he said. It is the way he said it, the omitting of his part and when he said it. He could have got his message across quietly and in private discussing any issues with the players he felt were underachieving. Instead he went over the top with public recriminations without admitting he had a fair bit to do with the inadequate performances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabuddies Posted May 22, 2017 Report Share Posted May 22, 2017 Honest, passionate, heart on the sleeve comments tend to be ill-conceived, badly thought out and affect those being commented upon.Whether it's the right way to do things depends a lot on the accuracy of the statements and the attitudes of those being commented upon. Who can forget Kevin Megan's rant on Match of the Day. [emoji34] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSS Posted December 21, 2020 Report Share Posted December 21, 2020 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55394424 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antrin Posted December 21, 2020 Report Share Posted December 21, 2020 26 minutes ago, HSS said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55394424 A good appointment. And good guy. I would have had him at one time, during the awful post-Danny period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabuddies Posted December 21, 2020 Report Share Posted December 21, 2020 Wonder what the bookies think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted December 21, 2020 Report Share Posted December 21, 2020 Hopefully he'll be as successful as he was when he was appointed the manager of Raith Rovers, in our most recent championship "great escape" season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted December 21, 2020 Report Share Posted December 21, 2020 I like John Hughes. Love his positivity and passion for Association Football. I would have no hesitation, if I was in charge, to appoint Yogi as the St Mirren Football Club, Team Manager, in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironsaints87 Posted December 21, 2020 Report Share Posted December 21, 2020 That be County going down then [emoji16] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slarti Posted December 21, 2020 Report Share Posted December 21, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, HSS said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55394424 He seems like a nice guy and obviously loves football. I don't rate him much as a manager, though, but I could say the same about a lot of the guys who have been our manager. Edited December 21, 2020 by Slarti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud the Baker Posted December 22, 2020 Report Share Posted December 22, 2020 Heard that news at work last night - the high spot of my shift. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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