insaintee Posted June 12, 2019 Report Share Posted June 12, 2019 On 6/7/2019 at 11:32 PM, Cornwall_Saint said: The Greens have also been strong advocates of Remain, hence their improved performance in the EU elections. Whereas the Leave voters flooded to the Brexit Party and pretty much abandoned UKIP, the Remain vote was split between the Lib Dems and Greens in England. I myself opted for Greens over Lib Dems in the recent vote. Interestingly if you consider Ukip/tories/Brexit as one pro brexit block, then this slumped from @50 %to @42 % I did do the sums in a spreadsheet and had the exact figure, but don't know what I did with it. Equally arguements about low turn out apply both to the Leave block and the remain block. While Labour are not a delared anti-brexit party, they have in fact been one of the main reasons that Brexit has been halted. I doubt that any serious brexiteer would vote labour and think that in the EU elections labour can quite safely be added to the anti-brexit block. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insaintee Posted June 12, 2019 Report Share Posted June 12, 2019 On 6/8/2019 at 2:05 AM, oaksoft said: Yep and interestjngly, the split of the Leave support between Tories and Brexit is the only reason Labour held onto that seat. With a 17% drop in their vote they are kidding themselves if they think that was something worth celebrating. The problem for Lib Dem and the Greens was starting from such a low base. The Greens are not really challenging though. Although I do actually support a lot of the aims of the Greens, there is a touch of extremism, smugness and a virtually religious zeal about them which I find seriously off-putting. What makes you think all Brexit voters are ex tory and not ex labour. I'd guess the split is about 40 -60. ETA touch of extremism, smugness about them which I find seriously off-putting. Oh the irony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted June 12, 2019 Report Share Posted June 12, 2019 1 hour ago, insaintee said: What makes you think all Brexit voters are ex tory and not ex labour. I'd guess the split is about 40 -60. ETA touch of extremism, smugness about them which I find seriously off-putting. Oh the irony Not for the first time, I am unable to intepret your inane wittering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud the Baker Posted June 13, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 Looks like Labour miscalculated regarding yesterdays motion to prevent a no-deal Brexit short of a winning Vote of No Confidence against the new Tory leader or some other parliamentary ruse we're now on the road to a no-deal Brexit on Halloween. I can only hope the bulk of non-ERG Tory MPs were wanting to wait until after the leadership election before breaking ranks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insaintee Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 (edited) 20 hours ago, oaksoft said: Not for the first time, I am unable to intepret your inane wittering. That's because you're a thick cant and can't spell interpret Edited June 13, 2019 by insaintee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougJamie Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 1 hour ago, insaintee said: That's because you're a thick cant and can't spell interpret You cant spell c*nt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud the Baker Posted June 13, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, DougJamie said: You cant spell c*nt Who cunt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougJamie Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 Just now, Bud the Baker said: Who cunt? YYou cant say c**t is has to be c*nt , as c**t is a nasty bad word and you will end up in the Bin with the usual cunts and cants Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insaintee Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 5 hours ago, DougJamie said: You cant spell c*nt I can Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougJamie Posted June 14, 2019 Report Share Posted June 14, 2019 17 hours ago, insaintee said: I can You c**t I mean cant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insaintee Posted June 14, 2019 Report Share Posted June 14, 2019 1 minute ago, DougJamie said: You c**t I mean cant Yeah that too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted December 12, 2020 Report Share Posted December 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, Yflab said: Time to resurrect this thread.....can’t believe that the last posts were in June 2019....... Interesting times ahead. Save the Scottish fishing rights! 🎣 The Scottish fishing issue, financially, is so minor that IF it's a real sticking point surely this could be overcome with a subsidy spread out over a period of years? There's much more at stake in the wider picture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted December 12, 2020 Report Share Posted December 12, 2020 I dinnae fish I dinnae eat fish. Have I the right to talk about fishing on this Forum ? Will the fascists deny my free speech ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salmonbuddie Posted December 12, 2020 Report Share Posted December 12, 2020 Will the fascists deny my free speech ?If only, said the entire forum...[emoji23][emoji1787][emoji23] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted December 12, 2020 Report Share Posted December 12, 2020 Not a surprise. They are happy in their wee echo chamber. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALBIONSAINT Posted December 12, 2020 Report Share Posted December 12, 2020 39 minutes ago, shull said: Not a surprise. They are happy in their wee echo chamber. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud the Baker Posted December 22, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2020 (edited) Personally I've been quite impressed by Boris's resolve over the last few weeks to absolutely tank the remaining (sic) 99.9% of the economy over the fishing industry, as he so famously said "fuck business" however it looks like he's ready to come to a compromise... Quote According to EU sources, under a proposal tabled on Monday afternoon by the UK’s chief negotiator, David Frost, the British demand for a 60% reduction in the catch by value in British waters has been reduced to 35%, far closer to the 25% reduction that Frost’s EU counterpart, Michel Barnier, had said he would be prepared to accept. Split the difference, say 30% of "our fish" back, the ones we don't eat... aye looking like Brexit was really worth it! Edited December 22, 2020 by Bud the Baker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud the Baker Posted December 23, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2020 Anyone doubt that Gibraltar will sever their remaining ties with the UK sometime in the next decade? Another triumph for Boris, Michael & Nigel! Quote Quote Under the terms of an agreement between Spain, Britain and Gibraltar that is in its last stages of negotiation, British nationals traveling to Gibraltar from the United Kingdom would have to go through passport control, while Spaniards would be able to enter freely and Gibraltarians would have open access to Spain and the other countries that are part of the Schengen Area, where border controls have been abolished. Gibraltar would not have a land border for people going into its territory, but it would have reinforced airport border controls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud the Baker Posted December 23, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2020 Well it appears a Brexit deal is imminent - how much control will we have taken back? I look forward to seeing Nigel... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antrin Posted December 23, 2020 Report Share Posted December 23, 2020 A brexit deal: Kuensberg on Newsnight, “we are walking towards another milestone”. Me, over my shoulder en route to bed, “we are walking off the end of the f**kin pier!”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud the Baker Posted December 24, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 24, 2020 11 minutes ago, antrin said: A brexit deal: Kuensberg on Newsnight, “we are walking towards another milestone”. Me, over my shoulder en route to bed, “we are walking off the end of the f**kin pier!”. Walking of the end of the fuckin pier and falling into a French fishing boat - sacre bleu! Quote Barnier said the EU had offered a six-year transition period for phasing in a 25% reduction in the catch by value taken by European fleet in British waters. Downing Street had tabled a counter-proposal of a three-year transition period with a 60% reduction. The compromise is likely to involve a transition period of five and a half years to phase in the changes, sources said, with the UK accepting a 25% repatriation of quotas. So we're still giving away 75% of the fish we don't like but Boris has reduced the transition period by 6 months - top negotiating! ********************** Having said that I might have it all wrong cos The Sun says Quote THE SUN SAYS Boris played a blinder to secure imminent Brexit trade deal just when the economy needed it and Quote With Covid and Brexit, Boris has had a year from hell, under far greater pressure than any Prime Minister since Winston Churchill. But it looks as if he has defied his critics again. What else can you say but Hail Boris, King of the World! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted December 24, 2020 Report Share Posted December 24, 2020 So, it's finally over, we're "out" and, while it wasn't my choice, it's the choice of the majority so let's get on with it. I'm sure business's that deal in shipping stuff to Europe will be relieved. I'm also sure the usual suspects will scrape around for some negatives when it won't have any effect on them, just for the sake of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Denim Posted December 24, 2020 Report Share Posted December 24, 2020 58 minutes ago, faraway saint said: So, it's finally over, we're "out" and, while it wasn't my choice, it's the choice of the majority so let's get on with it. I'm sure business's that deal in shipping stuff to Europe will be relieved. I'm also sure the usual suspects will scrape around for some negatives when it won't have any effect on them, just for the sake of it. I was a remainer myself, both in terms of Brexit and Scexit. At the end of the day though, Brexit is just a rounding error compared to the self inflicted destruction we’ve unnecessarily inflicted on our own economies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud the Baker Posted December 24, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 24, 2020 Excellent news we can now go into IndyRef2 without the bullying about a hard border with the England being an issue. FREE BY 23! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott-Leeds Posted December 24, 2020 Report Share Posted December 24, 2020 Boris - Got Brexit DoneDeal agreed Labour and the rest can stfu Need a deal - got oneNeed rid of backstop - doneWaiting for the finer details obviously and the usual suspects the ‘ah but’ brigade....Sturgeon was asked : Do you think we should stay part of EU ?Yes she replied She was then asked , but You want Scotland to split from the rest of the UK ? Ah but she replied Deal doneLets got on with dealing with Covid now EU regulations soon to be a thing of the past Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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