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Livingston v St Mirren 17th Feb

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I've said for a while now that Livi are our main contenders but we shouldn't be beaten 4-1 by any team in the league with 11 on the park.

This will certainly show if the players are up for it enough to bounce back.

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Dire display today. I would like to ask JR. Is Reilly incapable of playing 90mins. down 3.1 and he takes a 20+ goals striker off and puts one on that hasn't even scored for the u20s. Mullin for me the jury is still out. what Sammy was doing for the 1st only he will know. McKenzie should have been on a lot sooner than he did. Bad day. livvy deserved winners. on 2 next week we go.

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Really awful trip to the football today.
Horrible pie, horrible bovril, shite seats, terrible view and that was all before the football even started.

We were bullied all over the pitch, Samson made some strange decisions and Livi had one or two good finishes.

There was a real lack of cohesion between midfield and the front line. Missing Ian McShane? I would say so.

Let's hope we react in the same way we have after previous defeats.

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Really awful trip to the football today.
Horrible pie, horrible bovril, shite seats, terrible view and that was all before the football even started.

We were bullied all over the pitch, Samson made some strange decisions and Livi had one or two good finishes.

There was a real lack of cohesion between midfield and the front line. Missing Ian McShane? I would say so.

Let's hope we react in the same way we have after previous defeats.
My steak pie was the pie of the season.
My Bovril with three peppers hit the spot.
The seats handled my lardy ass just fine.

However...

I agree we were bullied.
We saw today what McShane brings to the team. Like many before him.in that role though, we only see it when it isn't there.

He was sorely missed.

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Hippolyte and Reilly to start together next week. Flynn on the bench.

Reilly poor today.  Feel he's better with someone to play off. Mullen need to be pushing him for a start also.

Mackenzie not match fit but we need his presence so we can defend crosses and high balls into the box as well as a threat at set pieces. Mackenzie was outstanding for us last season alongside Davies. We need him back. Tough decisions need to be made. Brechin will give him a 90 mins under his belt also.

First half was shocking today after the first goal.

Edited by lenziebud

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I think some on here are being quite harsh over today's performance, it's our first league defeat since Dumbarton.

If Miller & Hardie played the way (they always seem to play against St Mirren) they wouldn't be at Livingston.

I think the large away support actually motivated Livingston more than us.

The way Livingston play is total anti football punt the ball as far up the pitch to the big guy and get players up to support it won't win any beautiful football awards but will win matches but not nearly enough to trouble us at top of the league.

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My steak pie was the pie of the season.
My Bovril with three peppers hit the spot.
The seats handled my lardy ass just fine.

However...

I agree we were bullied.
We saw today what McShane brings to the team. Like many before him.in that role though, we only see it when it isn't there.

He was sorely missed.
It was the position of the seats that were shite as opposed to the size of the seats.

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Terrible day at the office today. Tactics were were a bit off, continually lumping balls from the back up to Reilly or Morgan out on the wing which 9 times out of 10 was easily mopped up by the Livy defence, if we were going to be doing that throughout the game we should have started Hippolyte up alongside Reilly to provide a bit of an aerial presence.  Still no clue why Jack always seems to hook Reilly after 60 minutes or so in the majority of games for Mullen, he must have his reasons, but in my opinion Mullen is just not up to the same quality of Reilly, hopefully he proves me wrong but so far Mullen has done virtually nothing in a st mirren shirt and just seems to be very of the pace of the games he has been involved in.  Defensively today we were all over the place, the first goal was beyond laughable, Baird was under pressure but was getting to the ball before the striker, no clue what Sammy was thinking coming out for the ball miles of his line. No communication between the 2 at all. The 4th goal was just horrendous aswell, took an absolute age to clear our lines and eventually played a slack lazy ball to the keeper before being intercepted , although the game was long gone by then, the complete lack of effort at the time once the Livy player got the ball to either close him down or for Sammy to get back on his line was poor. Put it down to the team having an off day, and hopefully if we can manage to beat Brechin next week the confidence will return, but today was not a good display at all.

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We have no divine right to win a game.

A lot of our players, and our management team, had off days. We've all had these and we regroup and get on with it.

Difference is we don't have big babies roaring and greeting about it on a forum.

I'd like to thank the players and management for making me enjoy football again this season. I can live with the odd defeat.

I'm sure next week we will be better.:thumbs2

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1 hour ago, BuddieinEK said:

My steak pie was the pie of the season.
My Bovril with three peppers hit the spot.
The seats handled my lardy ass just fine.

However...

I agree we were bullied.
We saw today what McShane brings to the team. Like many before him.in that role though, we only see it when it isn't there.

He was sorely missed.

Don't think McShane missing was the problem today. Magennis bring more to the team in the center mid role and is a better player. McShane si a decent player but goes missing a lot of the time IMO.

We cant defend high balls in to the box and get bullied every time it happens. Its not the first time this season. 

We need a presence in center defence to defend high balls. We had it last season with Gary Mackenzie. Need to get him match fit and back in the side.

Also can't quite get the tactics of Morgan and Flynn out wide with Reilly through the center. As I've said elsewhere I'd put Flynn on the bench and start Hyppolyte with Reilly.

 

Suspect though that McShane may be back next week with Magennis back on the right !

Edited by lenziebud

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Seriously it could have been 8 _1. We were rotten and they were very good. Web 1 up and the goalie made an absolute arse of himself and we never recovered. Worst display since Tommy Craig days. Hopefully a one off. Must beat brechin on sat.

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So, we lost, no, we got thumped today, no real argument there.

The reason...............well, all subjective so no real right or wrong answer.

As usual there's the over reaction which is no real surprise.

Some supporters have very short memories and unreal expectations.

Looking at the bigger picture shows we're top of the league, we've only lost 5 games from 25 and have an 11 point lead over our nearest rivals.

It seems that people forget Livingston have plenty of hard games, and I know where all the other teams would be..................points on the board, not games in hand.

As for the rest, Dundee United were being written off by many recently, now, all of a sudden, some are saying they are real threat?

Nothing's impossible but can any really see us being anything less than 2nd this season, and that would take quite a collapse from us and an amazing run from Livingston & Dundee United, highly unlikely.

It seems some see us as world beaters then shite withing the space of a few weeks. :lol:

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Not going to overreact but that was tommy Craig era bad! Absolutely toothless and clueless I hate sounding like a doom and gloom merchant but there is no way that team can survive the premiership. Ryan f**kin hardie strolling about like a world beater and nobody even gave him a mild kick really got to me! We Defo  need to  toughen up


Tommy Craig era? Away and take a look at yourself.

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4 hours ago, stlucifer said:

I've said for a while now that Livi are our main contenders but we shouldn't be beaten 4-1 by any team in the league with 11 on the park.

This will certainly show if the players are up for it enough to bounce back.

We play some nice football ( at times ) Thought we have looked average in a lot of games second half of last season we played better. It's not the end of the world no way we will throw this away. My Livie match preview I wrote this was a much improved side who dismantled Falkirk and now  St Mirren with ease Livie have come good at the right time. Have wrote  like a few  others we lack a big f**k off a bulldog In midfield.  Still confident we will win the league.  Finally keep reading 4 - 1 was a bad day at the office. Come on guys we did not get beat we were well and truly humped BIG time.  Emotional turmoil from mid week with all speculation? Could be but not good enough 4-1 dress it up all you want bottom line is very , very poor. 

Edited by Isle Of Bute Saint

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Started off with a goal, and everyone myself included thought it was going to be a stroll in the park. A cluster f'k in defence and suddenly we were all over the place and couldn't recover.

We do seem to only have the one plan, but it's that plan that has got us to where we are.

I'll start bricking it when we are only 5/6 ahead, until then, I'm just going to enjoy the ride.

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We play some nice football ( at times ) Thought we have looked average in a lot of games second half of last season we played better. It's not the end of the world no way we will throw this away. My Livie match preview I wrote this was a much improved side who dismantled Falkirk and now  St Mirren with ease Livie have come good at the right time. Have wrote  like a few  others we lack a big f**k off a bulldog In midfield.  Still confident we will win the league.  Finally keep reading 4 - 1 was a bad day at the office. Come on guys we did not get beat we were well and truly humped BIG time.  Emotional turmoil from mid week with all speculation? Could be but not good enough 4-1 dress it up all you want bottom line is very , very poor. 

Good post IOBS
, I have kept my feelings mostly to myself but the last 10 games or so barring the odd exception I have felt we were fortunate to win. We are in a good position to win this league, for me if this means being dirty, nasty, and to fight our way there then so be it. The prize is there, let’s make sure we take it first time and avoid at all costs this play off shite (which we know is heavily weighted against championship teams).

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First league defeat since 2nd December.  First away league defeat since 4th November (that's over 3 months ago).

At least 5 or 6 of the starting 11 had their worst game of the season, all in the one game. In fact you could argue it was all in the one half.

That won't happen again.

Still 11 points clear with 11 (or 12) games left.

 

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Edited by Eric Arthur Blair

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