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A lot of fingers in the ears, head in the sand naievity on this thread. IF Ross has travelled to Barnsley for an interview or even informal talks it's because he wants the job. Talk of going there for  Championship level interview experience is utter nonsense. If they now offer him the job chances are he will take it. They will be offering him a comparitive fortune and they will be no doubt selling him a vision of a club with a massive transfer kitty via the new owners. He will have had the perfect inside line from Mallan and no amount of hand wringing or pleading on here will make an iota of difference The ball is firmly in Barnsleys and JR's court all we can do is await the outcome. At least it looks like a quick decision either way although if he does go it's 99% certain he will want JF to go with him. Whether we can persuade him otherwise (assuming the board would want to) is debatable.

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1 hour ago, Isle Of Bute Saint said:

When news breaks. No way we will here anything tonight  with Jack traveling up from Burnley he will want to talk with Gordon first face to face which is right. With talks taking place most of today ending after 7pm that is a lot of hours given that I would say Jack is off hope I'm wrong. 

Burnley as well as Barnsley. Jack sure gets around.

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10 minutes ago, lenziebud said:

Great post, I completely agree. He would be nuts to reject it. Fantastic opportunity for him and if he gets it right a huge steeping stone to bigger clubs.

Massive challenge for him initially in getting to grips with the quality of Championship and the level of player required. Way higher than he has been used to dealing with and what he's played at.

There is enough in the current Barnsley team to stay up and from there with big investment he'll have a great chance to push them on. 

He's done more than enough for St Mirren and wouldn't begrudge him leaving at this moment at all.

 

He started the dream. He brought in the players. He's augmented this in the January window. I don't think I could do other than grudge him if he went and things went t!ts up.

As for the previous poster.  I don't see where he gets the idea Barnsley have enough to remain in the Championship. The quality of players/managers throughout that league is a step up from what Jack is used to so it would be hard to judge.

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If I was JR I’d take the Barnsley job if offered. 
I know there’s unfinished business here and some think he could get a bigger job but when you look at previous managers of ours who have achieved good things in recent years they have ended up at Queens Park and Clyde. 
A championship offer may never come around again. 
 
From out our point of view it’s the only downside of having a good young manager who’s getting some success on the park. We’re still strong enough to get promoted without JR as he’ll be leaving is in a solid position. 
Financially we’ll be compensated and we won’t be short of decent candidates now people see what sort of club we are these days. We have a togetherness from the fans to players and the board. We’re heading back to the top flight and in a sound financial state. We will have plenty of decent applications for the job. 
I hope JR stays but I wouldn’t grudge him the move and I think he would be crazy to decline the offer. 


For JR, the plus must be a probable 4x salary lift, a great financial injection, it is the Championship which would seem like the Champions League to most up her in financial terms. It’s tempting at this time, understandable

The negative, Barnsley is a shit hole, he would be yomping into the unknown, the gig is fraught with risk. He is on the verge of a major CV plus if he stays. To date he’s achieved hee haw.

I’d stay, get promoted then in the summer there would be better than Barnsley allegedly looking for him.

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1 hour ago, Isle Of Bute Saint said:

When news breaks. No way we will here anything tonight  with Jack traveling up from Burnley he will want to talk with Gordon first face to face which is right. With talks taking place most of today ending after 7pm that is a lot of hours given that I would say Jack is off hope I'm wrong. 

 

1 hour ago, faraway saint said:

That Jack gets about. :rolleyes:

 

3 minutes ago, Dibbles old paperboy said:

Burnley as well as Barnsley. Jack sure gets around.

You're on fire tonight. :lol:

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1 minute ago, faraway saint said:

More than decent chance Barnsley could go down.

Could easily see JR go from hero to zero.

I'd be surprised of he takes it, although IF he did go down hes obviously interested.

It's a gamble for him and Barnsley. 

My thoughts too and why would he be in a hurry to leave his hero- like  status here... As i said if he stays a few more years he'll be heading to a much bigger club than Barnsley.

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A lot of people assuming that they know what JR's thoughts are.

I'd say that they're projecting their own thoughts on the matter, when they've got no idea what the details of the situation are.

Each to their own.

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15 minutes ago, lenziebud said:

Great post, I completely agree. He would be nuts to reject it. Fantastic opportunity for him and if he gets it right a huge steeping stone to bigger clubs.

Massive challenge for him initially in getting to grips with the quality of Championship and the level of player required. Way higher than he has been used to dealing with and what he's played at.

There is enough in the current Barnsley team to stay up and from there with big investment he'll have a great chance to push them on. 

He's done more than enough for St Mirren and wouldn't begrudge him leaving at this moment at all.

 

Yeah one win in their last 17 league games (and that to the worst run club in England namely Sunderland) is certainly the type of form that will keep them up!!!! :hammer

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Barnsleys new owners are in for the long haul and with Billy Beane involved your imagine they'll be rather analytical in their decision. I doubt they'd be sacking anyone if they do go down unless performances were that bad. Working with someone like Beane alone would be of interest to a lot of managers.

Ross ticks the box of youth development, something Barnsley have excelled at over the years. Along with his man management skills, we're not a team that have turned our fortunes around with over the top tactical schemes, instead having a system that suits the players we have. That's why he could be viable for them.

I'd be surprised if Ross didn't take the job if offered, I doubt there's going to be much bigger offers from down south until he's made an impact in the top flight here.

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13 minutes ago, proudtobeabuddy said:

I disagree that he'd be mad to turn it down. I think he'll step up to a much higher level after us.  He should stay with us and do a whole season at least in the Scottish Premier. Then i'm pretty sure he'd get a EPL job. I hope Jack finishes what he started with us, he seems that type of guy.

EPL job? 

Even McInnes failed to get an interview for Swansea,  West Ham, West Brom, Palace or Stoke. All lesser clubs and he even captained one of them in the EPL promotion season.

JR is doing a wonderful job and there’s no question he’s a great young manager but the chances of him one day managing in the EPL are not impossible but extremely slim. 

 

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1 minute ago, davidg said:

EPL job? 

Even McInnes failed to get an interview for Swansea,  West Ham, West Brom, Palace or Stoke. All lesser clubs and he even captained one of them in the EPL promotion season.

JR is doing a wonderful job and there’s no question he’s a great young manager but the chances of him one day managing in the EPL are not impossible but extremely slim. 

 

Yep, most of the top managers in the Championship can't get a sniff at the EPL. 

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4 minutes ago, davidg said:

EPL job? 

Even McInnes failed to get an interview for Swansea,  West Ham, West Brom, Palace or Stoke. All lesser clubs and he even captained one of them in the EPL promotion season.

JR is doing a wonderful job and there’s no question he’s a great young manager but the chances of him one day managing in the EPL are not impossible but extremely slim. 

 

If Alex Neil can do it?.......

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4 minutes ago, davidg said:

EPL job? 

Even McInnes failed to get an interview for Swansea,  West Ham, West Brom, Palace or Stoke. All lesser clubs and he even captained one of them in the EPL promotion season.

JR is doing a wonderful job and there’s no question he’s a great young manager but the chances of him one day managing in the EPL are not impossible but extremely slim. 

 

Aye, some need a reality check.

At best he'd be a manager of a team who will probably be in the lower half of the top league in Scotland. 

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2 minutes ago, davidg said:

EPL job? 

Even McInnes failed to get an interview for Swansea,  West Ham, West Brom, Palace or Stoke. All lesser clubs and he even captained one of them in the EPL promotion season.

JR is doing a wonderful job and there’s no question he’s a great young manager but the chances of him one day managing in the EPL are not impossible but extremely slim. 

 

True. For me though, he's got a touch of the Alex Neil about him and save for one shite season with Norwich, he's landed on his feet.

Also remember the Norwich fans being extremely underwhelmed when Alex went down there.

It's not a good time to lose Jack if he goes but I'd actually much prefer to lose him to an English club now than another Scottish club in the summer (specifically either of the ugly sisters) and then be seeing him in the opposition dugout.

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6 minutes ago, gc_SMFC said:

Barnsleys new owners are in for the long haul and with Billy Beane involved your imagine they'll be rather analytical in their decision. I doubt they'd be sacking anyone if they do go down unless performances were that bad. Working with someone like Beane alone would be of interest to a lot of managers.

Ross ticks the box of youth development, something Barnsley have excelled at over the years. Along with his man management skills, we're not a team that have turned our fortunes around with over the top tactical schemes, instead having a system that suits the players we have. That's why he could be viable for them.

I'd be surprised if Ross didn't take the job if offered, I doubt there's going to be much bigger offers from down south until he's made an impact in the top flight here.
 

Our recruitment team have been working wonders recently, we’ve had some really really good players at the club in the last couple of years, most of whom have moved on to bigger budget clubs, on bigger wages, our last two head coaches also moved to bigger budget clubs on bigger wages. Our club is proven to be a stepping stone to bigger and better things for most of the people who pass through it, this’ll have massive appeal to any prospective head coach. 

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1 minute ago, Mr Optimistic said:

If Alex Neil can do it?.......

Yes, but he was appointed the manager of an EPL club. 

Who knows, maybe JR can keep Barnsley up and then guide them to the EPL. 

Whatever he does I hope it works out for him. 

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9 minutes ago, davidg said:

EPL job? 

Even McInnes failed to get an interview for Swansea,  West Ham, West Brom, Palace or Stoke. All lesser clubs and he even captained one of them in the EPL promotion season.

JR is doing a wonderful job and there’s no question he’s a great young manager but the chances of him one day managing in the EPL are not impossible but extremely slim. 

 

Yes especially if he stays and gets us to do well in the Scottish Premier. That's how highly  i rate him as a manager.

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It's not just a football decision.

Shouldn't forget he's got a family like everyone else. Girls in primary school and his wife is a teacher I believe. 

Looking at the length of contracts of past Barnsley managers what does he do? Live in Yorkshire by himself to see how it goes? Remove his kids to a school down there in the hope he lasts longer than their previous bosses?

Really tough decision but we can at least guarantee his family stability and a good wage until 2020. Easy to forget that until we came along he didn't have that for a long time. Apart from his year at Hearts, he'd spent 6 years in and out of the game part-time. He'd been involved in the PFA and wrote kids' books amongst other things.

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1 minute ago, Julian Banjos said:

It's not just a football decision.

Shouldn't forget he's got a family like everyone else. Girls in primary school and his wife is a teacher I believe. 

Looking at the length of contracts of past Barnsley managers what does he do? Live in Yorkshire by himself to see how it goes? Remove his kids to a school down there in the hope he lasts longer than their previous bosses?

Really tough decision but we can at least guarantee his family stability and a good wage until 2020. Easy to forget that until we came along he didn't have that for a long time. Apart from his year at Hearts, he'd spent 6 years in and out of the game part-time. He'd been involved in the PFA and wrote kids' books amongst other things.

He'll make his own decision whatever we say or want but i still believe that he'll go on to bigger than Barnsley if he  bides his time and spends a few more years with us.

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3 minutes ago, Julian Banjos said:

It's not just a football decision.

Shouldn't forget he's got a family like everyone else. Girls in primary school and his wife is a teacher I believe. 

Looking at the length of contracts of past Barnsley managers what does he do? Live in Yorkshire by himself to see how it goes? Remove his kids to a school down there in the hope he lasts longer than their previous bosses?

Really tough decision but we can at least guarantee his family stability and a good wage until 2020. Easy to forget that until we came along he didn't have that for a long time. Apart from his year at Hearts, he'd spent 6 years in and out of the game part-time. He'd been involved in the PFA and wrote kids' books amongst other things.

Haven't met a teacher yet who doesn't want to quit !.

His girls is the tough one

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2 minutes ago, Julian Banjos said:

It's not just a football decision.

Shouldn't forget he's got a family like everyone else. Girls in primary school and his wife is a teacher I believe. 

Looking at the length of contracts of past Barnsley managers what does he do? Live in Yorkshire by himself to see how it goes? Remove his kids to a school down there in the hope he lasts longer than their previous bosses?

Really tough decision but we can at least guarantee his family stability and a good wage until 2020. Easy to forget that until we came along he didn't have that for a long time. Apart from his year at Hearts, he'd spent 6 years in and out of the game part-time. He'd been involved in the PFA and wrote kids' books amongst other things.

He may even get a further improved contract offer from us in an attempt to keep him, would be the club's logical first step if JR is giving off vibes he's tempted. Club would need to be seen to be doing something to keep our prized asset.

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3 minutes ago, Julian Banjos said:

It's not just a football decision.

Shouldn't forget he's got a family like everyone else. Girls in primary school and his wife is a teacher I believe. 

Looking at the length of contracts of past Barnsley managers what does he do? Live in Yorkshire by himself to see how it goes? Remove his kids to a school down there in the hope he lasts longer than their previous bosses?

Really tough decision but we can at least guarantee his family stability and a good wage until 2020. Easy to forget that until we came along he didn't have that for a long time. Apart from his year at Hearts, he'd spent 6 years in and out of the game part-time. He'd been involved in the PFA and wrote kids' books amongst other things.

We’ve not sacked a head coach since 12/02/2015 that’s three years since we last sacked one, some going that in this day and age. 

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