bud77 Posted February 25, 2018 Report Share Posted February 25, 2018 Yes, it's an old one but it worked 5 years ago and we, the fans, the players, the management and the board all need to believe. I noticed yesterday that a nervousness crept in, the drum stopped, the singing stopped, the support stopped urging the team on the way we have been for the last 14 months or so. Now we need to believe that we can win this league and urge the team on, back the squad and managment and support them when thinsg aren't going as well as we'd like. We need to be the 12th man home and away, lift the players for this last set of games. As things stand 7 wins is all it will take and I for one would love it if we could get the team over the line in the next 7 games because the 8th game is at home and it's against our Greenock friends. How good would that be going into that game as champions, having a guard of honour and being presented with the trophy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hambud Posted February 25, 2018 Report Share Posted February 25, 2018 I believe!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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linwood buddie Posted February 25, 2018 Report Share Posted February 25, 2018 Following on the music theme........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chalky1 Posted February 25, 2018 Report Share Posted February 25, 2018 I Believe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintnextlifetime Posted February 25, 2018 Report Share Posted February 25, 2018 (edited) Monkees said it. . Edited February 25, 2018 by saintnextlifetime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hambud Posted February 25, 2018 Report Share Posted February 25, 2018 I Believe Actually saw that for sale yesterday and having listened to it I'm gutted I didn't purchase it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Posted February 25, 2018 Report Share Posted February 25, 2018 We will win the league. I am absolutely convinced of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ronnie Posted February 25, 2018 Report Share Posted February 25, 2018 The league could really be 99% over by Friday if Our Friends from Greenock beat Livingston then we beat United. As it is it's only 90% over just now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smcc Posted February 25, 2018 Report Share Posted February 25, 2018 2 hours ago, saintnextlifetime said: Monkees said it. . Actually it was Neil Diamond who said it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Ricky Posted February 25, 2018 Report Share Posted February 25, 2018 6 hours ago, bud77 said: Yes, it's an old one but it worked 5 years ago and we, the fans, the players, the management and the board all need to believe. I noticed yesterday that a nervousness crept in, the drum stopped, the singing stopped, the support stopped urging the team on the way we have been for the last 14 months or so. Now we need to believe that we can win this league and urge the team on, back the squad and managment and support them when thinsg aren't going as well as we'd like. We need to be the 12th man home and away, lift the players for this last set of games. As things stand 7 wins is all it will take and I for one would love it if we could get the team over the line in the next 7 games because the 8th game is at home and it's against our Greenock friends. How good would that be going into that game as champions, having a guard of honour and being presented with the trophy. Spot on..."I'm a believer" The more noisy support the better. Keep drumming guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chalky1 Posted February 25, 2018 Report Share Posted February 25, 2018 3 hours ago, Hambud said: 3 hours ago, chalky1 said: I Believe Actually saw that for sale yesterday and having listened to it I'm gutted I didn't purchase it. I'm sure I've got it somewhere in my collection, CD though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud77 Posted February 25, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2018 2 hours ago, Slartibartfast said: What our eighth game will be depends on when we play the rearranged game against Dumbarton. For our eighth game, we could be playing Dumbarton, Livingston or Morton. That is, of course, assuming that we don't have to rearrange any other games, e.g. the already rearranged game against Falkirk due to international call-ups. I like your thinking, though. But wouldn't it be sweet if we were to get the trophy on the day we play Morton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintnextlifetime Posted February 25, 2018 Report Share Posted February 25, 2018 1 hour ago, smcc said: Actually it was Neil Diamond who said it! Whilst l'm aware that Neil wrote said song , the Monkees did say it in the post that I made and also the Monkees had a bigger hit with it which was often the case with some of the covers of Neil's songs as I believe that , UB40 took Red , Red , Wine to number one but there is nothing wrong with being pedantic , is there. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smcc Posted February 25, 2018 Report Share Posted February 25, 2018 Ah, but Neil said it first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintnextlifetime Posted February 25, 2018 Report Share Posted February 25, 2018 4 minutes ago, smcc said: Ah, but Neil said it first. He did and whilst I think Neil is a fantastic song writer and performer , in the case of I'm a Believer , the Monkees do it better and I think even Neil conceded that the UB40 version of Red , Red , Wine was better than his version. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smcc Posted February 25, 2018 Report Share Posted February 25, 2018 It's all a matter of opinion. No emotion in the UB40 version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintnextlifetime Posted February 25, 2018 Report Share Posted February 25, 2018 Neil Diamond is(or was) a better overall performer than UB40. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TediousTom Posted February 25, 2018 Report Share Posted February 25, 2018 Belief is a funny old thing and I do not see the relevence of discussing belief at this time. Belief and knowledge are two very different things. To illustrate this point I shall list some things that I believe and some things that I know Things I know How to play Jenga God does not exist. Labour are incompetent fools who are an embarassment to democracy and to the founding principles of Keir Hardie People from Greenock smell Rangers football club died in 2012 The Saint Mirren professional football club pte ltd co first team playing squad will win the championship and be promoted to "the tap league". Things I believe Cosmos is the best chippy in Paisley Shull is a fruitcake (a likable one but at the moon he doth bark) Paisley should have won the city of clulture bid and the faceless judges are so stupid they probably vote Labour Donald Trump is so stupid if he were British he would vote Labour So you see the difference between fact and belief? Or fact and faith? Belief/faith is just an opinion, we all have them but belief/faith is unimportant when compared to knowledge. Knowledge is king. So in essence I dont give a rats arse what the belief/opinion of fellow supporters are with regard to us winning the championship. As I have stated elsewhere on this little forum of ours I DO NOT BELIEVE that we will win this league. I KNOW WE WILL. We will indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud77 Posted February 25, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2018 2 hours ago, Slartibartfast said: I did say that I liked your thinking, what more do you want? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Ricky Posted February 25, 2018 Report Share Posted February 25, 2018 Belief transcends knowledge in my opinion. Belief takes over when anything cannot be proved. I believe we will win the title based on experience this season and the fact that others who have been so far ahead at this stage and in similar for went on to win. True but this is indicative only. Fact takes over when arithmetic shows that we have a number of points which cannot be achieved by any other team in the league. Basic, I know, but any other approach is based on informed judgement or belief. .maybe these are one and the same in this instance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintGlenburn Posted February 25, 2018 Report Share Posted February 25, 2018 Belief transcends knowledge in my opinion. Belief takes over when anything cannot be proved. I believe we will win the title based on experience this season and the fact that others who have been so far ahead at this stage and in similar for went on to win. True but this is indicative only. Fact takes over when arithmetic shows that we have a number of points which cannot be achieved by any other team in the league. Basic, I know, but any other approach is based on informed judgement or belief. .maybe these are one and the same in this instance. I don't know if this is true but I believe you Ricky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlucifer Posted February 25, 2018 Report Share Posted February 25, 2018 (edited) 54 minutes ago, SaintGlenburn said: 1 hour ago, St.Ricky said: Belief transcends knowledge in my opinion. Belief takes over when anything cannot be proved. I believe we will win the title based on experience this season and the fact that others who have been so far ahead at this stage and in similar for went on to win. True but this is indicative only. Fact takes over when arithmetic shows that we have a number of points which cannot be achieved by any other team in the league. Basic, I know, but any other approach is based on informed judgement or belief. .maybe these are one and the same in this instance. I don't know if this is true but I believe you Ricky. I know it's fact but I still think he's a pseudo intellectual, sanctimonious ass whose main aim appears to be to post/thread build in competition with that other post building ass. Edited February 25, 2018 by stlucifer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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