Soctty Posted May 23, 2018 Report Share Posted May 23, 2018 19 minutes ago, Sonny said: I do not think so. Reckon we will lose money due to lack of appearances. There is a sell on clause - I'd have been amazed if we hadn't included one. It's how smaller clubs like ours factor in a bit of extra income. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Monkey Posted May 23, 2018 Report Share Posted May 23, 2018 1 hour ago, elvis said: He will now be playing at league 1. Level in England now according to there fans anyone agree. On average, that's probably about right. Many Premiership players could get a game at a higher level than league one, but many couldn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornwall_Saint Posted May 23, 2018 Report Share Posted May 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Sonny said: Hibs want Mallan. Probably as a replacement for John. Pity as I would love to see him back in the stripes. I can't see Mallan going right now. Barnsley don't even have a manager in yet, they won't loan out any potential first teamers until they have their new boss. Add in that the loanees have returned to their clubs, Adam Hammill released, I think it's a non-starter until the new boss has been in for a couple of weeks. No reason why Mallan can't get a game in League One there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TediousTom Posted May 23, 2018 Report Share Posted May 23, 2018 Cannot sat I have heard of oor new Jimmy. That said I am looking forward to seeing the laddie. So Welcome Jimmy Kellerman, welcome indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Posted May 23, 2018 Report Share Posted May 23, 2018 There is a sell on clause - I'd have been amazed if we hadn't included one. It's how smaller clubs like ours factor in a bit of extra income. Selll on clauses are usually based on profit ie in this case anything above what we got for him. Doubt Hibs wll pay Barnsley more than what we got. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Monkey Posted May 23, 2018 Report Share Posted May 23, 2018 Good piece here by a fan on Kellerman, written at the start of the season just gone. He sounds like what we need - good on the ball, mobile, and a bit of a cynical streak. He had to work for his place at Aldershot, and he went on to have a great 2017/18 season. He's moving from Hampshire to Scotland to make this happen, which shows a bit of desire, too. https://www.getsurrey.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/former-wolves-man-only-needs-13676827 I've got a good feeling about this signing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud the Baker Posted May 23, 2018 Report Share Posted May 23, 2018 (edited) Typical Ross signing - good luck Jimbo! Edited May 23, 2018 by Bud the Baker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madball Posted May 23, 2018 Report Share Posted May 23, 2018 12 hours ago, Dirty Sanchez said: That goal had shades of a trademarked Andy Dorman run from deep, like this one against the former Rangers. That's the first thought I had when I saw the run from deep too, would be delighted with that. Also noted elsewhere that there is an aggressive side to his game too, so it sound like we are getting a hybrid of Dorman and Thomson (midfielder without the "p"). Only bit that worried me was around shoulder dislocation as we got stung by that on Josh Todd recently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soctty Posted May 23, 2018 Report Share Posted May 23, 2018 46 minutes ago, Sonny said: Selll on clauses are usually based on profit ie in this case anything above what we got for him. Doubt Hibs wll pay Barnsley more than what we got. They're actually almost always based on the sell on fee - the Kenny McLean one was the first I've ever heard of where it was based on the profit. Take Van Dijk to Liverpool for £75m - Celtic widely acknowledged to have got £7.5m from that deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soctty Posted May 23, 2018 Report Share Posted May 23, 2018 1 minute ago, Slartibartfast said: I heard it was £7.5m total. But, who knows, not I. £7.5m from a 10% sell on clause from the transfer to Liverpool - plus £13m initial fee when Southampton signed him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soctty Posted May 23, 2018 Report Share Posted May 23, 2018 4 minutes ago, Slartibartfast said: Well, if he initially went for £13m then whoever told me that, and it was a Celtic fan, must have been talking shite (or just have been shit at arithmetic) - or maybe I misheard. The point they were trying to make to me was that they were receiving 10% of the difference, i.e. 10% of £(75-13)m, or £6.2m in that case. Apparently, according to Google, there are two different types of sell-on clause, % of sell-on fee and % of sell-on profit. Widely reported as being 10% of the fee recieved by Southampton. As I said, I've only ever seen one deal where it was the profit that the percentage was calculated on and that was our deal for Kenny McLean. Maybe the Celtic fan had more detailed info on the terms of the sale to Southampton but all papers went with £7.5m as the sell on fee to Celtic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TPAFKA Jersey 2 Posted June 6, 2018 Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 Working in London this week and one of my colleagues is a Leyton Orient fan. Unsolicited by me, he said "Your team have signed a really good player in Kellerman". Said he's seen him play for Aldershot a few times and was very impressed with him. Described him as a "flair player". I'm hoping that doesnae just mean he sells carpets in his spare time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jack the lad Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Eric Arthur Blair said: Well he didn't last long, he is English isn't he? Wonder who'll be next? Edited August 17, 2018 by Jack the lad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 A victim of circumstance. Must have gone from one emotional extreme to the other on signing for us, then hearing that the manager who signed him had f**ked off a couple of days later. I thought he showed more promise than King. Doubt that he'll be back at the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munoz Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 6 minutes ago, FTOF said: A victim of circumstance. Must have gone from one emotional extreme to the other on signing for us, then hearing that the manager who signed him had f**ked off a couple of days later. I thought he showed more promise than King. Doubt that he'll be back at the club. Hard to properly judge either JK or King given how little game time they've had. I'm all for Stubbs clearing the decks if it means the last few pieces of the jigsaw are going to be a step up in quality. Here's hoping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 8 minutes ago, munoz said: Hard to properly judge either JK or King given how little game time they've had. I'm all for Stubbs clearing the decks if it means the last few pieces of the jigsaw are going to be a step up in quality. Here's hoping. Kellermann looked good against Dumbarton. Definitely a bit of talent there. King on the other hand, I don't think is cut out for our level at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopCat Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 Hopefully his punting allows another signing.Judging from his first half performance against Spartans this certainly wasn’t a surprising decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munoz Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 1 minute ago, djchapsticks said: Kellermann looked good against Dumbarton. Definitely a bit of talent there. King on the other hand, I don't think is cut out for our level at Going by Kings lack of game time, this appears to be the case. JK was ok against Dumbarton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 42 minutes ago, FTOF said: A victim of circumstance. Must have gone from one emotional extreme to the other on signing for us, then hearing that the manager who signed him had f**ked off a couple of days later. I thought he showed more promise than King. Doubt that he'll be back at the club. My memory of him will be a 90 min sub against Dundee. As you said, I don't think he will be back next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callum Gilhooley Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 36 minutes ago, munoz said: Hard to properly judge either JK or King given how little game time they've had. I'm all for Stubbs clearing the decks if it means the last few pieces of the jigsaw are going to be a step up in quality. Here's hoping. From what ive seen of King, he is well out of his depth. Would struggle to cross the road imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munoz Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Callum Gilhooley said: From what ive seen of King, he is well out of his depth. Would struggle to cross the road imo. This might be the case, but I don't like to judge players on a couple of appearances. Surely all players deserve a bit of time, and then if they're not up to the required level the Manager will act. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maboza Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 Maybe not such a good endorsement of this scouting network that we are apparently building. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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