shull Posted June 30, 2018 Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 They're talking... Minimum £3 million for Windass £7 million for Armstrong £25 million for Tierney And for Lewis who is going to be the best of the lot, by far.... THREE HUNDRED FECKING THOUSAND POUNDS. Utter utter utter disgrace. I don't even believe there is a Sell on clause. He will eventually go South for at least 30 million. 10% of that for us would have been very welcome. Josh Windass FORFUXSAKE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazil85 Posted June 30, 2018 Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 10 minutes ago, shull said: They're talking... Minimum £3 million for Windass £7 million for Armstrong £25 million for Tierney And for Lewis who is going to be the best of the lot, by far.... THREE HUNDRED FECKING THOUSAND POUNDS. Utter utter utter disgrace. I don't even believe there is a Sell on clause. He will eventually go South for at least 30 million. 10% of that for us would have been very welcome. Josh Windass FORFUXSAKE He had six months left on his contract and rejected an extension with the best offer we were willing to give. Unfortunately the way of the world, we got what was owed and his great services for the full season. I agree it’s a complete shafting though, footballing rules need to be changed to support smaller clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proudtobeabuddy Posted June 30, 2018 Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 We would have got more but unfortunately unlike McGennis Morgan decided not sign a new contract, disappointing as he would have got the big move he craved anyway but we would have also benefited from a larger fee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st jock Posted June 30, 2018 Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 I'm sure if someone had offered more ( and offered him back on loan) then we would have looked at it. Lewis had previously signed a contract extension I think and always gave 100%. We were lucky to have him and move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazil85 Posted June 30, 2018 Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 25 minutes ago, st jock said: I'm sure if someone had offered more ( and offered him back on loan) then we would have looked at it. Lewis had previously signed a contract extension I think and always gave 100%. We were lucky to have him and move on. No reason for someone to offer more tbh. With six months left to run on his contract was always going to be a nominal fee. If someone offered more and we rejected Celtic they could just of went down the pre contract agreement route Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Posted June 30, 2018 Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 (edited) Lewis stayed with us on loan and played a pivotal part in our promotion. He could have signed a PCA, phoned it in, and left at the end of the season with us chasing a development fee. This thread is pish. There's a surprise. It's what happens when the tank is emptied. #backinthetank Edited June 30, 2018 by Drew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlucifer Posted June 30, 2018 Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 (edited) 25 minutes ago, bazil85 said: No reason for someone to offer more tbh. With six months left to run on his contract was always going to be a nominal fee. If someone offered more and we rejected Celtic they could just of went down the pre contract agreement route Add to that the chance that Morgan was upset and his commitment might have wavered in the run in. We weren't shafted by Cellic. They paid what they needed to. No one in their right mind would walk into a shop and offer more than the asking price. We weren't shafted by Morgan. He was paid for his service and gave his best. He then looked at his options and decided what was best for him while thinking a little for us as far as wanting to return for the remainder of the season. We were victims of the system. ETA. We could as easily blame Saints for not recognising Lewis' talent early enough to put him on a longer term contract. Edited June 30, 2018 by stlucifer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windae cleaner Posted June 30, 2018 Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 I think the real point Shull is making Average players getting big fees because they play for the gruesome twosome Always amused me that Sevco got 1 million for a player who hadn't played in the two top leagues in Scotland Don't believe the hype Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazil85 Posted June 30, 2018 Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 17 minutes ago, stlucifer said: Add to that the chance that Morgan was upset and his commitment might have wavered in the run in. We weren't shafted by Cellic. They paid what they needed to. No one in their right mind would walk into a shop and offer more than the asking price. We weren't shafted by Morgan. He was paid for his service and gave his best. He then looked at his options and decided what was best for him while thinking a little for us as far as wanting to return for the remainder of the season. We were victims of the system. ETA. We could as easily blame Saints for not recognising Lewis' talent early enough to put him on a longer term contract. Agree with all that apart from maybe the last point. We did try sign him longer the season before but he only agreed to a one year deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TediousTom Posted June 30, 2018 Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 I was once angry about the ten grand we received for Gordon McQueen but last year I got over it. Now I concern myself the following question Is Smisa an elaborate fraud? Sometimes a man just has to stand up and express an unpopular opinion. Good luck Lewis, what a player you were (not we're) for us. You go on and have a great career, let us hope we go on to be great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pondsman Posted June 30, 2018 Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 We got 300k from Celtic AND we had Lewis' services for the remainder of last season. What value would you put on that, Shull? Seems unlikely that we could have sold him to another club as Celtic was always where Lewis wanted to go. I do agree however that some of the money being mentioned for other players is ridiculous. But as windae cleaner has mentioned, playing for the OF seems to make a big difference when it comes to prices achieved! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldo_j Posted June 30, 2018 Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 we also got that fee as he’s not really played anywhere other than the Scottish Championship, bar a couple of Premier League outings. to the outside world, that league is pish. We’ve even got a couple of part time teams in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlucifer Posted June 30, 2018 Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 1 hour ago, bazil85 said: Agree with all that apart from maybe the last point. We did try sign him longer the season before but he only agreed to a one year deal. Yes. But by that time he was established and truly in the shop window and his agent would have been a fool to have him tied down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazil85 Posted June 30, 2018 Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 3 hours ago, stlucifer said: Yes. But by that time he was established and truly in the shop window and his agent would have been a fool to have him tied down. Yeah that’s what I mean. That wasn’t st Mirren’s fault. We tried to tie him down for longer. Him and McAllister didn’t sign longer term deals. Magennis did though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted June 30, 2018 Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 8 hours ago, shull said: They're talking... Minimum £3 million for Windass £7 million for Armstrong £25 million for Tierney And for Lewis who is going to be the best of the lot, by far.... THREE HUNDRED FECKING THOUSAND POUNDS. Utter utter utter disgrace. I don't even believe there is a Sell on clause. He will eventually go South for at least 30 million. 10% of that for us would have been very welcome. Josh Windass FORFUXSAKE Some truth in all this waffle. St Mirren could argue that they were shafted by Lewis Morgan's opting not to sign on for longer. Not shafted by Celtic in any way I can think of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Posted June 30, 2018 Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 Big team will always shaft the wee team. 80K for Fergie and a few years later after helping us win the Scottish cup for the 1st time in 28 years, we got 800K to us and hee haw to Clyde Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted June 30, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 59 minutes ago, bazil85 said: Yeah that’s what I mean. That wasn’t st Mirren’s fault. We tried to tie him down for longer. Him and McAllister didn’t sign longer term deals. Magennis did though Macgennis is our wee gem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanleySaint Posted June 30, 2018 Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 Unless he doesn't extend next time, then what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted June 30, 2018 Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 7 hours ago, windae cleaner said: I think the real point Shull is making Good one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted June 30, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 12 minutes ago, StanleySaint said: Unless he doesn't extend next time, then what? There wont be a next time. Kyle will be long gone , having earned our and his Club lots of money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted June 30, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 3 minutes ago, FTOF said: Good one. Chief Mocker adding nothing at all. As usual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanleySaint Posted June 30, 2018 Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 There wont be a next time. Kyle will be long gone , having earned our and his Club lots of money. Theoretically possible but what if that doesn't happen, does he become as selfish as Morgan if he doesn't tie himself to the club in perpetuity? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted June 30, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 19 minutes ago, StanleySaint said: 24 minutes ago, shull said: There wont be a next time. Kyle will be long gone , having earned our and his Club lots of money. Theoretically possible but what if that doesn't happen, does he become as selfish as Morgan if he doesn't tie himself to the club in perpetuity? He is an outstanding player and will be gone this time next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanleySaint Posted June 30, 2018 Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 So avoiding the question with whitabootery! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted June 30, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 1 hour ago, StanleySaint said: So avoiding the question with whitabootery! He is too good a player to still be here in 2020 or 2021. He'll be down South plying his trade and making millions for himself. Long Term injury with us would only change the above for a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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