Jack the lad Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 2 hours ago, zico said: Samson - McGinn, Baird, Heaton, Kpekawa - Flynn, Magennis, McGinn, Kellerman - Smith, Mullen Subs - Cooke, Hippolyte, Stewart (striker), Kirkpatrick, Erhahon That team gives me the fear, yes I know we haven't seen some of the play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santaponsasaint Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 To be fair my only surprise is Eckersley. Even if he stayed as a back up left back. Big Gaz is a good player but we really only got 2 half seasons out of him. Even Jack Ross never played McShane in the last half of the season. Ryan Flynn has given the midfield a better balance. Good steady pro tho. Stewart we never really seen a lot of him. But good luck to all 4 I'm certain good championship clubs will pick them up. And never forget these guys are Saints legends for what they've done in the last 18 months. So if they ever play against us give them a good reception. COYS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proudtobeabuddy Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 I seem to remember a good few saying that the championship winning team weren't good enough to compete in the Premier and my argument was we're not in the premier! Now that we are, i agree with Zico i'm very optimistic about our chances of doing well i think Stubbs will replace them with better players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zico Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 2 hours ago, Drew said: There is also Bilate, if he is sticking around. King as well. Forgot about him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zico Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 1 hour ago, Isle Of Bute Saint said: Stubbs is no fool he said every player will be given a chance those who don't come up to the mark in Spain will be out the door. No he didn't You just made that up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pod Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 27 minutes ago, Sonny said: Hope the names on the new shirts are LARGE so we know who is playing. and translatable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pod Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 34 minutes ago, div said: Hopefully everyone will feel more re-assured when we've had more new arrivals. It's going to be an exciting season one way or the other lads. Never a dull moment supporting the buds! I've heard he's got a short list of 50. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northendsaint Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 3 hours ago, santaponsasaint said: Has McKenzie not signed a new deal earlier last month. Obviously did not take too kindly to big Gary Macks Rangers tattoo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santaponsasaint Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 Obviously did not take too kindly to big Gary Macks Rangers tattoo.Aye maybe big Gaz nutted him for the last min goal for Hibs in the cup final [emoji12] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MenstrieSaint Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 Rated Gaz and Eck , but if Stubbsy reckons we can get better , its got to be good , looking forward to the new season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougJamie Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 Well this is unique for us to basically have a new squad after promotion. With Jack bringing in 23 in a year and now Stubbs, we will have more players on our books than Chelsea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLBud Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 Hopefully everyone will feel more re-assured when we've had more new arrivals. It's going to be an exciting season one way or the other lads. Never a dull moment supporting the buds!It’s all very well letting guys go if you feel they’re not going to fit with your plans but any team will need experience to rely on and we’re lacking in that dept right now with only really Sammy and McGinn in that category IMO.If Stubbs is looking (as per his previous interview) at the English U23 market for loans then that won’t address that issue.The latest guy on trial is a young boy with about 30 games in 4 years with numerous clubs so I’m not sure that he’s going to add quality or experience. Can’t even say “it’s early days yet” as we kick off next week and I’m not sure we even have a team at the moment.Something just feels wrong about tearing a team of winners apart and replacing it with unproven guys from the depths of English football.Hope my concern is unwarranted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintGlenburn Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 Eck should have been kept Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss_Saint Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 42 minutes ago, DLBud said: he latest guy on trial is a young boy with about 30 games in 4 years with numerous clubs so I’m not sure that he’s going to add quality or experience. based on what I can read about him I agree on the experience but he sounds as if he has some quality about him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soctty Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 39 minutes ago, DLBud said: It’s all very well letting guys go if you feel they’re not going to fit with your plans but any team will need experience to rely on and we’re lacking in that dept right now with only really Sammy and McGinn in that category IMO. If Stubbs is looking (as per his previous interview) at the English U23 market for loans then that won’t address that issue. The latest guy on trial is a young boy with about 30 games in 4 years with numerous clubs so I’m not sure that he’s going to add quality or experience. Can’t even say “it’s early days yet” as we kick off next week and I’m not sure we even have a team at the moment. Something just feels wrong about tearing a team of winners apart and replacing it with unproven guys from the depths of English football. Hope my concern is unwarranted. We have Premiership experience currently in the form of Sammy, both McGinns and Flynn (and technically Baird), with talk that another 7 or 8 players will be coming into the squad, possibly more dependent on whether any of the four who have been told they can find a new club do so. I'd expect a few more new faces in before the Kilmarnock match, with more following in the coming weeks. The team of winners we had already had Mogan and Liam Smith taken from it, with Reilly not desperate to stay. I think most would've agreed we were not strong enough to really compete in the Premiership with last season's squad, and recruitment was needed, as well as letting a few go who weren't considered good enough for the step up - Jack would have done similar to what Stubbs is doing now, although he may have felt more loyalty towards some, but he has shown he can be ruthless, so possibly not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Ricky Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 11 hours ago, Stockholmbud said: McKenzie mcshane Stewart goalie Eckersley Assuming this is true - I admire Stubbs approach. I could make a case for each to be retained but this would be based on sentiment. This is a time of fundamental change on and out of the Playing squad. Tough, direct, no nonsense Managment. As always results will show how successfull the changes are, but I like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldo_j Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 3 hours ago, SaintGlenburn said: Eck should have been kept He hasn’t been let go... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isle Of Bute Saint Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 3 minutes ago, aldo_j said: He hasn’t been let go... That's the big thing as the transfer market is full of plenty players freed trying to find clubs plus players who have been told to find clubs who are still under contract. Would not surprised if all four are still here for next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyg Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 14 minutes ago, Isle Of Bute Saint said: That's the big thing as the transfer market is full of plenty players freed trying to find clubs plus players who have been told to find clubs who are still under contract. Would not surprised if all four are still here for next season. They won't be . At worst they'll be out on loan having someone else paying their wages , I would imagine championship clubs will be circling already ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 8 hours ago, div said: Don't think the departures will stop at these four. Expect more to follow. Well it would have been 5 if Reilly had signed earlier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLBud Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 Assuming this is true - I admire Stubbs approach. I could make a case for each to be retained but this would be based on sentiment. I agree that sentiment is a poor perspective when looking to build a squad for the Premiership, however, in GMac and Eckersley we are releasing two players who have been rock solid for us and have experience of the top flight. If Stubbs finds better quality to replace them then I’m very much in the camp of “thanks for the memories guys” as football is no longer about loyalty on either side of the player/club dynamic.That being said the initial signings don’t instill me with much hope this will be the case. I hope he has f**king good plan up his sleeve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintGlenburn Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 I agree that sentiment is a poor perspective when looking to build a squad for the Premiership, however, in GMac and Eckersley we are releasing two players who have been rock solid for us and have experience of the top flight. If Stubbs finds better quality to replace them then I’m very much in the camp of “thanks for the memories guys” as football is no longer about loyalty on either side of the player/club dynamic.That being said the initial signings don’t instill me with much hope this will be the case. I hope he has f**king good plan up his sleeve.Agree 100% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPAFKA Jersey 2 Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 10 hours ago, zico said: Samson - McGinn, Baird, Heaton, Kpekawa - Flynn, Magennis, McGinn, Kellerman - Smith, Mullen Subs - Cooke, Hippolyte, Stewart (striker), Kirkpatrick, Erhahon That is truly feckin terrifying!! 8 hours ago, div said: Hopefully everyone will feel more re-assured when we've had more new arrivals. It's going to be an exciting season one way or the other lads. Never a dull moment supporting the buds! Div, in case you hadn’t noticed the season starts a week on Saturday. I am absolutely stunned at the lack of activity by Stubbs so far. All he’s done is get rid of loads on players and sign a few English non league players. I am seriously unimpressed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Arthur Blair Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 1 minute ago, TPAFKA Jersey 2 said: Div, in case you hadn’t noticed the season starts a week on Saturday A week tomorrow, Friday the 13th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPAFKA Jersey 2 Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 3 minutes ago, Eric Arthur Blair said: A week tomorrow, Friday the 13th. Aye!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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