October 17, 20187 yr JACK THE LAD..............a poor mans JJ McG or the real deal........most of his predictions do seem to come to fruition. Or is it the same person?
October 17, 20187 yr I'm not sure why returning a loan player who has largely been out of his depth is bizarre. Must be a different definition of the word from mine. Or..................................That in itself is not bizarre.It’s the timing. We are in October, the window is shut for the next two and a half months and in that time there’s a lot of football to be played.We don’t have a big squad as it is, yet we are deliberately making it smaller. On the bench every week we have kids with almost no experience in senior football. A couple more injuries and they will have to be starting games, cause we have no one else. Surely the sensible thing to do is keep them till January and then end the loan and replace them. That’s what we’ve done in seasons gone by.
October 17, 20187 yr Right decision as it's the waste of a wage having players who won't feature. Best to let them go and save the wages for January signings. And having a 29 man squad is too many anyway.
October 17, 20187 yr 12 minutes ago, TopCat said: That in itself is not bizarre. It’s the timing. We are in October, the window is shut for the next two and a half months and in that time there’s a lot of football to be played. We don’t have a big squad as it is, yet we are deliberately making it smaller. On the bench every week we have kids with almost no experience in senior football. A couple more injuries and they will have to be starting games, cause we have no one else. Surely the sensible thing to do is keep them till January and then end the loan and replace them. That’s what we’ve done in seasons gone by. Much to be said on both sides but I go for supporting OK in clearing the decks in advance of January.
October 17, 20187 yr Very quickly looked out of his depth and didn’t look up for it in his fleeting appearances after a good debut. Not many shedding any tears.
October 17, 20187 yr Author The lending club will sometimes stipulate that they will only pay a percentage of the players wages for as long as they are playing. This may well have been the case with Madsen and Coulson. If so, rather then pay English Championship wages, better to offload them.
October 17, 20187 yr 2 hours ago, Hendo said: I must have missed that, what did his dad say? Was it Stubbs or OK getting it in the neck? Just sour grapes about his boy not getting picked, mostly towards OK. On the clubs Facebook page, he got pelters right enough. Also a few comments before a game a few weeks ago (possibly Hamilton) about none of the English boys starting. Toys right out the pram.
October 17, 20187 yr 1 hour ago, TopCat said: That in itself is not bizarre. It’s the timing. We are in October, the window is shut for the next two and a half months and in that time there’s a lot of football to be played. We don’t have a big squad as it is, yet we are deliberately making it smaller. On the bench every week we have kids with almost no experience in senior football. A couple more injuries and they will have to be starting games, cause we have no one else. Surely the sensible thing to do is keep them till January and then end the loan and replace them. That’s what we’ve done in seasons gone by. What ? Like Hayden Coulson you mean ? Good luck to the lad , I’m sure one day he will turn out to be a decent footballer but at the moment we can’t be bringing on other clubs youngsters unless they are really special , and he was not . Good going forward ,Poor defender, poor work ethic. Decent player with a decent future but a helluva lot to learn. i wish the young man well but wrong player , wrong club , wrong time . Move on.
October 17, 20187 yr I'm not sure why returning a loan player who has largely been out of his depth is bizarre. Must be a different definition of the word from mine. Or..................................To be fair though who hasn’t looked out their depth this year in our squad.
October 17, 20187 yr Right decision as it's the waste of a wage having players who won't feature. Best to let them go and save the wages for January signings. And having a 29 man squad is too many anyway.I’m hoping we didn’t have to pay the wages upfront to send him back.I’m not so sure the likes of Birmingham would have been happy to take madsen back and pay his full wage when he’s got no chance of featuring for them.
October 17, 20187 yr 1 hour ago, TopCat said: That in itself is not bizarre. It’s the timing. We are in October, the window is shut for the next two and a half months and in that time there’s a lot of football to be played.We don’t have a big squad as it is, yet we are deliberately making it smaller. On the bench every week we have kids with almost no experience in senior football. A couple more injuries and they will have to be starting games, cause we have no one else. Surely the sensible thing to do is keep them till January and then end the loan and replace them. That’s what we’ve done in seasons gone by. We had around 29 players in the squad, up until the last couple of days. That's pretty sizeable for a club of our stature. Unfortunately a fair number of them have proved to be not up to the task.
October 17, 20187 yr I’m hoping we didn’t have to pay the wages upfront to send him back.I’m not so sure the likes of Birmingham would have been happy to take madsen back and pay his full wage when he’s got no chance of featuring for them.Birmingham have managed to offset the cost of him returning by getting him a job at McDonalds . #foundhislevel
October 17, 20187 yr 3 hours ago, Jack the lad said: But but Mr Stubbs's newly built team is being broken up! Next to be announced is.......,......? Take your pick.
October 17, 20187 yr 2 hours ago, TopCat said: That in itself is not bizarre. It’s the timing. We are in October, the window is shut for the next two and a half months and in that time there’s a lot of football to be played.We don’t have a big squad as it is, yet we are deliberately making it smaller. On the bench every week we have kids with almost no experience in senior football. A couple more injuries and they will have to be starting games, cause we have no one else. Surely the sensible thing to do is keep them till January and then end the loan and replace them. That’s what we’ve done in seasons gone by. Just the 27 now after this week's departures , bloated was how I would have described it !!!
October 17, 20187 yr There was a player in there but could not defend. We need a solid side who can fight and scrap. He was not up to it in that sense.
October 17, 20187 yr About the same level footballwise as Stelios, nowhere near the personality, if he stayed in Scotland I'd guess mid table championship player. The killie Cup game was his first game for us but also his highlight. Wish him the best, but Connor Newton was great for us and his career went a bit downhill since, I'm afraid Coulson's may be worse.
October 18, 20187 yr 12 hours ago, TopCat said: That in itself is not bizarre. It’s the timing. We are in October, the window is shut for the next two and a half months and in that time there’s a lot of football to be played. We don’t have a big squad as it is, yet we are deliberately making it smaller. On the bench every week we have kids with almost no experience in senior football. A couple more injuries and they will have to be starting games, cause we have no one else. Surely the sensible thing to do is keep them till January and then end the loan and replace them. That’s what we’ve done in seasons gone by. Small squad? We have (or had) 29 players. All of them eating up a wage. Getting rid of them now allows OK to know exactly how much he can spend in January.
October 18, 20187 yr 12 hours ago, TopCat said: That in itself is not bizarre. It’s the timing. We are in October, the window is shut for the next two and a half months and in that time there’s a lot of football to be played. We don’t have a big squad as it is, yet we are deliberately making it smaller. On the bench every week we have kids with almost no experience in senior football. A couple more injuries and they will have to be starting games, cause we have no one else. Surely the sensible thing to do is keep them till January and then end the loan and replace them. That’s what we’ve done in seasons gone by. Not really. Maybe there is a left back in our under 19’s that’s a better prospect, or can offer more than Coulson? Maybe the injury against Hamilton will keep him out for too long, and the intention was to send him back in January anyway. Who knows. But it’s pretty clear that nobody is shedding a tear about him going.
October 18, 20187 yr Absolutely no point carrying a player who wasn’t going to play. If we’ve saved a few quid then all the better. The termination of loan deals early won’t please the parent clubs but it’s going to be getting rid of the 2 year duds like King, Kpekawa and Cooke that is going to be the real problem. Weve also invested £75K in a player who looks very unlikely to generate any sort of return on that. When all said and done I wouldn’t be surprised if the whole Stubbs debacle ends up costing the club north of £300K to fix and clean up. Absolutely horrific.
October 18, 20187 yr Ideal scenario, Stubbs gets the Dundee gig and makes an audacious January raid on Saints and snaps up Three “ cracking prospects “ for a mere £75k
October 18, 20187 yr 3 minutes ago, Callum Gilhooley said: Ideal scenario, Stubbs gets the Dundee gig and makes an audacious January raid on Saints and snaps up Three “ cracking prospects “ for a mere £75k McIntyre sacked already?
October 18, 20187 yr I do wonder if there is issues within the squad and a wee "Stubbsy,s boys" clique . Also wonder if there is a difference in attitude between the loan signings who are probably all on right good wages and the new signings on permanent contracts , time will tell . A big part of me wants Heaton , Cooke etc to come good .
October 18, 20187 yr Agreement wasn't working for either club involved so the decision to let him go makes sense. Boro wanted him to gain experience at left back but he proved himself to be rotten at defending. Decent going forward but we definitely have a better option now in Hammill Edited October 18, 20187 yr by Doakes
October 18, 20187 yr 11 hours ago, JJ McG said: Willock isn’t leaving. Good. He's the one loan player that we have that I'd like to see get more time on the park.
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