Dibbles old paperboy Posted July 24, 2018 Report Share Posted July 24, 2018 1 minute ago, Mid Calder Saint said: Where Stokes goes from here Christ knows.. 1 Iran? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Arthur Blair Posted July 24, 2018 Report Share Posted July 24, 2018 Where Stokes goes from here Christ knows.....Stokes inherited the club in a great state and he has just torn things to threads.We were promised quality signings well where the hell are they Alan?I'll have what he's having. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendo Posted July 24, 2018 Report Share Posted July 24, 2018 Stubbs has been in post around six weeks now and the number of clear mistakes he has made already is quite alarming. Appointing Darren Jackson, telling Reilly to beat it, telling five players to go before he had any replacements, ripping apart the championship winning side, signing unproven players at this level, appointing Brian Rice as assistant, announcing marquee signings and then feck all happening, giving trialists a game and then binning them, one after precisely 12 minutes on the pitch, drawing with amateur and non league sides and being hammered in a friendly. That's a pretty impressive list of bad things to happen. I know someone said Stubbs didn't plan to come in and fail. Now I'm not so sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedflanders123 Posted July 24, 2018 Report Share Posted July 24, 2018 1 minute ago, Mid Calder Saint said: This squad of players is not good enough for the Championship let alone the Premier.Recruitment has been hopeless and told solid pros like McKenzie and Eckersley to leave.Tonight we were playing against an amateur side cobbled together in the close season from junior and amateur ranks.Where Stokes goes from here Christ knows..Time for the Chairman to come out now and make a some sort of statement.The feel good factor has all but gone.Stokes inherited the club in a great state and he has just torn things to threads.We were promised quality signings well where the hell are they Alan? You mean Stubbs of course and not Stokes. Far too early for Chairman statements. Did you ask for this when pumped by a poor Thistle team? It's July FFS. At least let's get our squad complete. Not happy with not winning against lesser teams but shit happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedflanders123 Posted July 24, 2018 Report Share Posted July 24, 2018 1 minute ago, Hendo said: Stubbs has been in post around six weeks now and the number of clear mistakes he has made already is quite alarming. Appointing Darren Jackson, telling Reilly to beat it, telling five players to go before he had any replacements, ripping apart the championship winning side, signing unproven players at this level, appointing Brian Rice as assistant, announcing marquee signings and then feck all happening, giving trialists a game and then binning them, one after precisely 12 minutes on the pitch, drawing with amateur and non league sides and being hammered in a friendly. That's a pretty impressive list of bad things to happen. I know someone said Stubbs didn't plan to come in and fail. Now I'm not so sure. Not disagreeing with what you say but just for one moment let's talk about the attitude of the players. We have better quality than Spartans and QP and time some demonstrated it. Manager takes some blame as should full time professional players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted July 24, 2018 Report Share Posted July 24, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, nedflanders123 said: You mean Stubbs of course and not Stokes. Far too early for Chairman statements. Did you ask for this when pumped by a poor Thistle team? It's July FFS. At least let's get our squad complete. Not happy with not winning against lesser teams but shit happens. Yep. Not even close to that stage. That's a bit too reactionary at this point. There is a clear and very rapid drain of the goodwill afforded to a new manager, though and it's getting to Tommy Craig levels of supporters saying 'no putting up with this shite' already. Stubbs really needs a decent start in the league or there will be lot of knives out for him by the time we reach September. Edited July 24, 2018 by djchapsticks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted July 24, 2018 Report Share Posted July 24, 2018 On 6/13/2018 at 10:50 PM, faraway saint said: I get the feeling that Stubbs is already a man with a target on his back. There's already a large amount of negative posts that will, IMO, only increase as I fear we could struggle in the top league, as Ross probably have done. A poisoned challis, almost a "no win" situation as nothing short of top 6 place, which I feel is next to impossible in out first season, will see him torn to shreds on a weekly basis. I sincerely hope we get off to a good start or the current negativity will grow and Stubbs will be doomed before the first quarter of the season is over. There is already a fairly long list thinking, or hoping, he will fail, seen this before with our managers. 1 minute ago, djchapsticks said: Yep. Not even close to that stage. That's a bit too reactionary at this point. There is a clear and very rapid drain of the goodwill afforded to a new manager, though and it's getting to Tommy Craig levels of supporters saying 'no putting up with this shite' already. Stubbs really needs a decent start in the league or there will be lot of knives out for him by the time we reach September. Get away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendo Posted July 24, 2018 Report Share Posted July 24, 2018 5 minutes ago, Mid Calder Saint said: This squad of players is not good enough for the Championship let alone the Premier.Recruitment has been hopeless and told solid pros like McKenzie and Eckersley to leave.Tonight we were playing against an amateur side cobbled together in the close season from junior and amateur ranks.Where Stokes goes from here Christ knows..Time for the Chairman to come out now and make a some sort of statement.The feel good factor has all but gone.Stokes inherited the club in a great state and he has just torn things to threads.We were promised quality signings well where the hell are they Alan? That explains everything, our new manager is really Anthony Stokes wearing an Alan Stubbs mask. Everyone thought he didn't turn up at the airport, but he tied Stubbs up and put him in a warehouse, then went to La Manga (after perfecting his Scouse accent by watching reruns of Brookside) and carried out his dastardly plan to destroy us, motivated by seeing we had an Elvis impersonator as a fan. I think he got the idea from watching Scooby Doo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddygreat Posted July 24, 2018 Report Share Posted July 24, 2018 Stubbs has been in post around six weeks now and the number of clear mistakes he has made already is quite alarming. Appointing Darren Jackson, telling Reilly to beat it, telling five players to go before he had any replacements, ripping apart the championship winning side, signing unproven players at this level, appointing Brian Rice as assistant, announcing marquee signings and then feck all happening, giving trialists a game and then binning them, one after precisely 12 minutes on the pitch, drawing with amateur and non league sides and being hammered in a friendly. That's a pretty impressive list of bad things to happen. I know someone said Stubbs didn't plan to come in and fail. Now I'm not so sure.I could not have put this any better. Well said air Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenziebud Posted July 24, 2018 Report Share Posted July 24, 2018 9 minutes ago, LargsBud said: I really hope there is a clause in his contract where we can get rid of him if we are bottom at a certian time. Paying off a 3 year contract is going to be a financial disaster. Or maybe he could just have a bit of personal integrity and walk. Multi millionaire from playing career so its hardly a big deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted July 24, 2018 Report Share Posted July 24, 2018 Just now, faraway saint said: Get away. You know what I mean. Under normal circumstances, supporters would be a bit more patient and trusting if they could see that there was a plan there or progress being made to compensate for the step up in quality. So much time was afforded to Jack Ross by so many after a particularly poor start because of the introductions of new, hungry faces and he was hamstrung with the squad he had. To a lesser extent, Danny Lennon was given time too by the supporters. This wasn't extended to Ian Murray or Tommy Craig and doesn't appear to be the case with Stubbs either as it doesn't look like there is any plan in place, style he wants to play nor any sort of reassuring voice to the support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddygreat Posted July 24, 2018 Report Share Posted July 24, 2018 Or maybe he could just have a bit of personal integrity and walk. Multi millionaire from playing career so its hardly a big dealIs he a multimillionaire? Tell him to get his hand in his pocket and bring us some decent players..ask him to ask Jack Ross if he knows any, cause he doesn't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrshire Saints Posted July 24, 2018 Report Share Posted July 24, 2018 17 minutes ago, LargsBud said: I really hope there is a clause in his contract where we can get rid of him if we are bottom at a certian time. Paying off a 3 year contract is going to be a financial disaster. Acht we always have the "ring fenced" SMISA funds to help pay him off, sweep to see when the first begging email drops ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Zo Posted July 24, 2018 Report Share Posted July 24, 2018 (edited) Why would a club like St Mirren offer any manager a 3 year deal? Ross had developed God like status at the club and I can't recall him being offered a 3 year deal. Utter madness! I can't believe how quickly Stubbs has ripped the heart out of our side. Heard rumours he had told the players to forget all the success of last season as it counts for nothing. Every player talked how Jack had brilliant people skills but it would seem Stubbs isn't quite cut from the same cloth. The players all seemed to chuck it on Saturday after Sunderland went 2-0 up. Worrying signs for any team to give up so easily. All very depressing stuff and it looks like even a few marquee signings won't help out the team spirit which has been so lacking in last 3 games. Edited July 24, 2018 by Mr Zo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cambiebud Posted July 24, 2018 Report Share Posted July 24, 2018 Dear oh dear. Pre season has not gone to plan, I grant you. But seriously, lighten up Buddies.4 or 5 weeks of the transfer window to go. I would bet good money the starting 11 against Dundee will bare no resemblance to tonight’s lineup. Most of the new guys are not close to match fitness. Relax folks[emoji122][emoji122][emoji122] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyg Posted July 24, 2018 Report Share Posted July 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, cambiebud said: Dear oh dear. Pre season has not gone to plan, I grant you. But seriously, lighten up Buddies.4 or 5 weeks of the transfer window to go. I would bet good money the starting 11 against Dundee will bare no resemblance to tonight’s lineup. Most of the new guys are not close to match fitness. Relax folks Dundee's a week on Saturday and you think they'll be a complete change in the team line-up ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hambud Posted July 24, 2018 Report Share Posted July 24, 2018 Dear oh dear. Pre season has not gone to plan, I grant you. But seriously, lighten up Buddies.4 or 5 weeks of the transfer window to go. I would bet good money the starting 11 against Dundee will bare no resemblance to tonight’s lineup. Most of the new guys are not close to match fitness. Relax folks[emoji122][emoji122][emoji122]The dundee game is in 10 days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hambud Posted July 24, 2018 Report Share Posted July 24, 2018 Dundee's a week on Saturday and you think they'll be a complete change in the team line-up ? The dundee game is in 10 days.Billy beat me to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyg Posted July 24, 2018 Report Share Posted July 24, 2018 Of tonight squad , Samson , Coulson , S McGinn , Smith , Magennis and maybe McPherson are worth persevering with , Mullen and Stewart are players with no confidence , the rest can do one ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Posted July 24, 2018 Report Share Posted July 24, 2018 9 minutes ago, cambiebud said: Dear oh dear. Pre season has not gone to plan, I grant you. But seriously, lighten up Buddies.4 or 5 weeks of the transfer window to go. I would bet good money the starting 11 against Dundee will bare no resemblance to tonight’s lineup. Most of the new guys are not close to match fitness. Relax folks You do know that we only have 1 game left before the league starts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Monkey Posted July 24, 2018 Report Share Posted July 24, 2018 Normally I'd say we should be patient, but I will say this about St Mirren fans: we know a f**king shite manager when we see one. Could say we're experts in the field. I'm totally pissed off here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibbles old paperboy Posted July 24, 2018 Report Share Posted July 24, 2018 Even his twitter page is stunningly bad - nothing on it about accepting the job or looking forward to the season ahead - but he still has his photos of him as Hibs manager up and since becoming our manager (and saying nothing about that) has posted about Hibs a few times! Naive or what?! Even Alex Rae stopped tweeting about Rangers and included the occasional St Mirren and SMISA tweet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougJamie Posted July 24, 2018 Report Share Posted July 24, 2018 Any one seen the film The Damned United Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Monkey Posted July 24, 2018 Report Share Posted July 24, 2018 Just now, DougJamie said: Any one seen the film The Damned United Not sure we're that united, tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyg Posted July 24, 2018 Report Share Posted July 24, 2018 4 minutes ago, DougJamie said: Any one seen the film The Damned United I'll be up in arms if the Scouser fanny lasts another 44 days ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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