saintnextlifetime Posted September 18, 2018 Report Share Posted September 18, 2018 3 hours ago, Sonny said: Great stuff - you decide what is acceptable in your house. You have rules for your venue and SMFC has rules for it's venue. So if I go to your house I am subject to your rules and if I go to Greenhill Rd I are subject to SMFC's rules. Likewise I cannot display a banner at the cinema or at Braehead unless I seek and get approval. I don't think your comparison with someones private abode and a public place is a good one . As has been said , the banner in question was fairly innocuous and perhaps GLS has over reacted to it. He has justified his reaction by saying he wants to keep the polis sweet. Overall , GLS has done a great job since his return to Club , which is undeniable but he has made two mistakes , one employing Stubbs and the second is his handling of these particular incidents involving supporters in W7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkd Posted September 18, 2018 Report Share Posted September 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, mattman said: The wee mans my pal! Less a that! When you running your next bus ? No doing away games this year mate waiting to move into my new pad lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintnextlifetime Posted September 18, 2018 Report Share Posted September 18, 2018 3 hours ago, HSS said: Div,can you find out why the Sellic "Shagger" was allowed to stay? I've been told that it was because the Polis feared trouble if the banner was removed.If that's true then it's disgraceful. It would also be discrimination Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattman Posted September 18, 2018 Report Share Posted September 18, 2018 1 minute ago, faraway saint said: Or better still, report him to the police.............is that too much? We ur the polis ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattman Posted September 18, 2018 Report Share Posted September 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, jkd said: No doing away games this year mate waiting to move into my new pad lol Thank f**k! Im still having nightmares from the last time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkd Posted September 18, 2018 Report Share Posted September 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, mattman said: We ur the polis ! Bring back pc brown many a kicking off that copper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkd Posted September 18, 2018 Report Share Posted September 18, 2018 3 minutes ago, mattman said: Thank f**k! Im still having nightmares from the last time Anarchy anarchy told you to bring a book Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted September 18, 2018 Report Share Posted September 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, saintnextlifetime said: It would also be discrimination FFS, away and gies piece ya dullard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkd Posted September 18, 2018 Report Share Posted September 18, 2018 3 minutes ago, faraway saint said: FFS, away and gies piece ya dullard. He's technically right there faraway, it basically is discriminating between two sets of supporters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted September 18, 2018 Report Share Posted September 18, 2018 Just now, jkd said: He's technically right there faraway, it basically is discriminating between two sets of supporters. If you start to bring in human rights and discrimination into this we're well and truly fcuked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintnextlifetime Posted September 18, 2018 Report Share Posted September 18, 2018 1 minute ago, jkd said: He's technically right there faraway, it basically is discriminating between two sets of supporters. He already knows that jkd , its just that making posts like that gives him a wee toffee mallet. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Pityme Posted September 18, 2018 Report Share Posted September 18, 2018 One good thing to come out of all this is the case study Social Media trainers will be using to highlight how not to interact with your customer base. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornwall_Saint Posted September 18, 2018 Report Share Posted September 18, 2018 46 minutes ago, faraway saint said: However I feel there is an element in the W7 group that will not let this go and it will all end in tears, which is a shame. This is my concern too. I know some of the guys in W7 from my days in Paisley and they aren't taking it very well. Personally, I seen no issue with the banner and I wouldn't have "banned" it if it was my decision. It's a bit ridiculous when the Celtic fans had a more visible banner with the word "shagger" on it. Again I don't find it offensive myself but there would have been kids in the stadium seeing that one. That being said, it was made clear that the club didn't want this banner on display. That should have been the end of it, whether or not you disagree with the club's decision. They set themselves up for bother by displaying it. In the end they rebelled and made their statement, fair enough. Rebelling isn't necessarily a bad thing. But they knew the potential consequences of their actions. Hopefully this can be sorted out, but as FS has said, there could be an element that won't let this go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkd Posted September 18, 2018 Report Share Posted September 18, 2018 3 minutes ago, faraway saint said: If you start to bring in human rights and discrimination into this we're well and truly fcuked. No I don't give a f**k about human rights and that shit. But the thing that pisses me off is one rule for them and another rule for us attitude that is rife all the way from top too bottom of Scottish football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Pityme Posted September 18, 2018 Report Share Posted September 18, 2018 Appears the club have sought the counsel of an old politician in how best to "reach out" to the punters... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Ricky Posted September 18, 2018 Report Share Posted September 18, 2018 26 minutes ago, mattman said: Ricky, sorry I’m not trying to sound rude here, but PLEASE stop commenting. Give your fingers a break mate, you keep repeating the same stuff but seem to not exactly know what’s going on. Its giving me a headache. Apologies again but please. Thank you Matt The reason for myself and others being repetitive is the failure of some to grasp the reality of the situation and respect and support the board's decision despite having been given what you asked for on this forum thread... A statement and Guidance. Both have been delivered. Whether you like them or not is another matter. Take that up with the SLO and get back to supporting the team.. Something you guys are good at. it's very obvious what's going on and I don't approve,whilst at the same time retaining support for the good work done by W7. There is an attempt to position the board as being in the wrong and insensitive and to involve the club and police in discussion direct with W7. None of these outcomes would be good, in my opinion. It would split W7 from the rest of the Fans. Not an outcome I would welcome. Simply put - you guys want to change the system of communication and decision making to bypass the SLO and draw the Chairman into direct talks. Now I don't know if the SLO is complicit in this, I don't know. If yes, that's not good from their point of view. If no then it's not good from your point of view. It's a no win position. I will never ask you to stop posting nor any other forum member. If you can't stand the heat etc. So tough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Posted September 18, 2018 Report Share Posted September 18, 2018 FFS© Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted September 18, 2018 Report Share Posted September 18, 2018 5 minutes ago, jkd said: No I don't give a f**k about human rights and that shit. But the thing that pisses me off is one rule for them and another rule for us attitude that is rife all the way from top too bottom of Scottish football. This isn't the issue here and if you don't behave I'll send you over to the St MIrre Facebook page...................you'll know all about posting shite over there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattman Posted September 18, 2018 Report Share Posted September 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, St.Ricky said: Matt The reason for myself and others being repetitive is the failure of some to grasp the reality of the situation and respect and support the board's decision despite having been given what you asked for on this forum thread... A statement and Guidance. Both have been delivered. Whether you like them or not is another matter. Take that up with the SLO and get back to supporting the team.. Something you guys are good at. it's very obvious what's going on and I don't approve,whilst at the same time retaining support for the good work done by W7. There is an attempt to position the board as being in the wrong and insensitive and to involve the club and police in discussion direct with W7. None of these outcomes would be good, in my opinion. It would split W7 from the rest of the Fans. Not an outcome I would welcome. Simply put - you guys want to change the system of communication and decision making to bypass the SLO and draw the Chairman into direct talks. Now I don't know if the SLO is complicit in this, I don't know. If yes, that's not good from their point of view. If no then it's not good from your point of view. It's a no win position. I will never ask you to stop posting nor any other forum member. If you can't stand the heat etc. So tough. Ricky it’s just I’m trying to read what’s going on and your absolutely taking over the place but not really bringing much points to the table, just repeating yourself. That’s all I’m saying. Chill out man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted September 18, 2018 Report Share Posted September 18, 2018 Here's a genuine question to those who point out that rules is rules and there is guidance in place - if you feel that protest is the only route you have is it still wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted September 18, 2018 Report Share Posted September 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, St.Ricky said: Matt . Ricky, see when you quote somebody you done have to mention their name or some shortened version,, FFS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted September 18, 2018 Report Share Posted September 18, 2018 Just now, mattman said: Ricky it’s just I’m trying to read what’s going on and your absolutely taking over the place but not really bringing much points to the table, just repeating yourself. That’s all I’m saying. Chill out man What did I tell you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkd Posted September 18, 2018 Report Share Posted September 18, 2018 Not on Facebook it's got more shite on it than this lol, the only thing this forum has is No one puts pics up of there dinner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Ricky Posted September 18, 2018 Report Share Posted September 18, 2018 1 minute ago, mattman said: Ricky it’s just I’m trying to read what’s going on and your absolutely taking over the place but not really bringing much points to the table, just repeating yourself. That’s all I’m saying. Chill out man Sorry you can't follow things. Where Am I mistaken? Pray tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Pityme Posted September 18, 2018 Report Share Posted September 18, 2018 4 minutes ago, St.Ricky said: Matt The reason for myself and others being repetitive is the failure of some to grasp the reality of the situation and respect and support the board's decision despite having been given what you asked for on this forum thread... A statement and Guidance. Both have been delivered. Whether you like them or not is another matter. Take that up with the SLO and get back to supporting the team.. Something you guys are good at. it's very obvious what's going on and I don't approve,whilst at the same time retaining support for the good work done by W7. There is an attempt to position the board as being in the wrong and insensitive and to involve the club and police in discussion direct with W7. None of these outcomes would be good, in my opinion. It would split W7 from the rest of the Fans. Not an outcome I would welcome. Simply put - you guys want to change the system of communication and decision making to bypass the SLO and draw the Chairman into direct talks. Now I don't know if the SLO is complicit in this, I don't know. If yes, that's not good from their point of view. If no then it's not good from your point of view. It's a no win position. I will never ask you to stop posting nor any other forum member. If you can't stand the heat etc. So tough. I dont think the message is being received Ricky, what is it the W7 team should do? Who should the seek,palaver with? Some elder statesman needs to clear this all up, lift the fog, de clutter the desk, wipe the windscreen, wipe the arse..! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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