W6Saint Posted September 3, 2018 Report Share Posted September 3, 2018 Cries for sack the board... laughable!All things considered, sad to see someone lose their job... however, Stubbs is more than likely a multi-millionaire. He can go back to his V9 experiment and punditry work and i’m sure he’ll cope just fine.The world is results driven and if any forum members looked so hopelessly out our depth we’d be out the door twice as quick.Good to have a board not shy of calling the shots they’ll live and die by.Let’s get this right and regroup. COYS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Ricky Posted September 3, 2018 Report Share Posted September 3, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, djchapsticks said: If you read the guy's posts you'll see what he's bringing. It's not exactly cryptic stuff. Don't think that is my point. Arguably, The club has leaked like a seive and social media used to destabilise the manager and his position. I would prefer this stopped. Would hate the incoming manager to be subject to similar treatment. Edited September 3, 2018 by St.Ricky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Yards Posted September 3, 2018 Report Share Posted September 3, 2018 Reports saying his pay off is £75000? That’s a lot less than I would’ve thought, anyone got any info on that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted September 3, 2018 Report Share Posted September 3, 2018 Just now, Big Yards said: Reports saying his pay off is £75000? That’s a lot less than I would’ve thought, anyone got any info on that? If that's the case we should just give him Josh Heaton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRM Posted September 3, 2018 Report Share Posted September 3, 2018 1 hour ago, oaksoft said: It could literally be anyone using that account. Well it is the actual TRM. Kind of hard to prove it so you will have to take my word for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornwall_Saint Posted September 3, 2018 Report Share Posted September 3, 2018 3 minutes ago, TRM said: Well it is the actual TRM. Kind of hard to prove it so you will have to take my word for it Cool beans. I'm Cody Cooke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted September 3, 2018 Report Share Posted September 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, St.Ricky said: Don't think that is my point. Arguably, The club has leaked like a seive and social media used to destabilise the manager and his position. I would prefer this stopped. We're not a large club. Stories get out all the time. Several of our players and indeed staff members have family and friends who are lifelong supporters. There's really not THAT much that can be done about it. Leaks have always existed in every club and always will, it just so happens that social media has largely replaced printed media and old-fashioned word of mouth. The manager destabilised his own position by seemingly coming in and evidently doing his damnedest to bam everyone up from day one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRM Posted September 3, 2018 Report Share Posted September 3, 2018 Just now, Cornwall_Saint said: Cool beans. I'm Cody Cooke Thought I was Cody Cooke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russian Saint Posted September 3, 2018 Report Share Posted September 3, 2018 I mentioned in one of my other posts that as part of the Stubbs interview with the board, they must have asked him what his plan was to warrant a three year deal.I’d be amazed if he’d said he wanted to recruit players that haven’t kicked a ball at a decent level or from an academy and still got the gig.I’m assuming his targets either didn’t fancy us for various reasons, length of contract and salary etc or the style to which Stubbs wanted the team to play? Who knows.He wasn’t my first choice but had my backing.Why would the board sanction such signings knowing that we’re now in the top division?Lots of questions from the fans, will we ever get the answers? Who knows.All the best to Alan Stubbs, pity it didn’t work out for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st jock Posted September 3, 2018 Report Share Posted September 3, 2018 Well it is the actual TRM. Kind of hard to prove it so you will have to take my word for itI'm not exactly sure who your beef is with TRM? Is it with the board? Is it because none of your leads were followed up? Was it Stubbs? Were you sourcing players then annoyed because they were being offered financially unrewarding contracts? What position are you resigning from? Sorry, but so many questions! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave The Buddie Posted September 3, 2018 Report Share Posted September 3, 2018 I feel it will probably be the right decision in the long run but I’m always sad when a St Mirren manager loses his job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porks Posted September 3, 2018 Report Share Posted September 3, 2018 If that is the case then this is an even more worrying situation than I thought.Essentially the board are saying it doesn’t matter about results, if you’re not our mate and doing as we say you’re out?If we had won at Tynecastle, gonezo too? At what point had the leaky board decided he was going? This is the problem with you Topcat.. you only ever look at results. You did the same with Jack Ross and look how your prediction turned out when most other people could look deeper than results. This is the same thing in reverse, you're not learning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted September 3, 2018 Report Share Posted September 3, 2018 Just now, Dave The Buddie said: I feel it will probably be the right decision in the long run but I’m always sad when a St Mirren manager loses his job. I've got a degree more sympathy for Stubbs than many. I never felt a bit of sorrow for either Tommy Craig (who was a snake) or Alex Rae (who was a horrible wee shite) though. Stubbs seems like a decent enough big guy who just went about his business in such a ham-fisted manner that it undone a lot of good work in a very short period of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint in exile Posted September 3, 2018 Report Share Posted September 3, 2018 Sometimes it just doesn't work out and there needs to be a parting of the ways. But for the last few years our dealings with 'managers' have been mostly abysmal, other than JR, and even that didn't end particularly well for us. If I was a prospective new managerial appointment at Saints, I'd be looking for some cast iron guarantees on the terms by which the contract might be terminated, and a decent pay off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W6Saint Posted September 3, 2018 Report Share Posted September 3, 2018 Why would the board sanction such signings knowing that we’re now in the top division?Not giving Stubbs free reign on his targets would’ve been unfair and shown a complete lack of trust from the board, this would’ve put strain on their working relationship before it had even begun.He had to be given a chance to bring in his own guys and we had to trust he could spot a player. He was given that chance and it transpired he couldn’t spot a footballer if one skelped him in the face, to put it bluntly!End (correct) result = Bye Stubbsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedflanders123 Posted September 3, 2018 Report Share Posted September 3, 2018 There was a Twitter post this evening claiming there was fighting between players at half time on Saturday. My wife spotted it and trying to find post/source. May be bullshit as much as claiming Ray McKinnon has been offered the job. You know, that Ray who left Morton to join Falkirk last week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knightswoodsaint Posted September 3, 2018 Report Share Posted September 3, 2018 For the record and only my opinion he clearly had no clue. No formation, no tactics, blaming everyone but himself including the hearts defeat.to which he blamed the defence as individuals Although he signed 4 from the back 5 that played on Saturday. His record at Hibs was abysmal ie couldn’t get out of the championship. Got lucky in the cup ( yeah every club needs luck in a knockout competition) then jumps ship to Rotherham and subsequently get the sack ( for pretty much the same as here) yet you critique the board. Are you really being serious Tam ??? Ie tam McManus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted September 3, 2018 Report Share Posted September 3, 2018 15 minutes ago, porks said: 2 hours ago, TopCat said: If that is the case then this is an even more worrying situation than I thought. Essentially the board are saying it doesn’t matter about results, if you’re not our mate and doing as we say you’re out? If we had won at Tynecastle, gonezo too? At what point had the leaky board decided he was going? This is the problem with you Topcat.. you only ever look at results. You did the same with Jack Ross and look how your prediction turned out when most other people could look deeper than results. This is the same thing in reverse, you're not learning. Why is it a problem ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnus Posted September 3, 2018 Report Share Posted September 3, 2018 5 minutes ago, Yflab said: It’s Iain. One of the finest players ever to grace the stripes. He would make my all time favourite SMFC starting 11. Great winger first time round but even better at left back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddie Marvelous Posted September 3, 2018 Report Share Posted September 3, 2018 Bet McCann is shiting himselfWhy? Incase we offer him the job? 🤪 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddie Marvelous Posted September 3, 2018 Report Share Posted September 3, 2018 The dressing room was gloom and doom. Why were you allowed into the dressing room? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyg Posted September 3, 2018 Report Share Posted September 3, 2018 3 hours ago, TopCat said: Worrying times. I'm making the assumption that this guy , the scout , was watching players for us towards the close of the window , and because Stubbs had made a pigs ear of things we didn't sign any of these guys , therefore the scout , as a Stubbs man , sees Monday's development as the last straw. To me it looks like a case of the whole Stubbs regime leaving or being bagged , apart from Rice of course ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Sanchez Posted September 4, 2018 Report Share Posted September 4, 2018 FFS! I'm on holiday and just thought I'd log in for 5 minutes before my dinner to see if Stubbs had picked up any free agents for us yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted September 4, 2018 Report Share Posted September 4, 2018 2 hours ago, djchapsticks said: If that's the case we should just give him Josh Heaton. Ouch! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddie Marvelous Posted September 4, 2018 Report Share Posted September 4, 2018 It’s Iain. One of the finest players ever to grace the stripes.And one of the most embarrassing management fiascos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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