jaybee Posted September 5, 2018 Report Share Posted September 5, 2018 1 hour ago, helpmaboab said: Get Goody in. He'll soon sort oot ony sooky huffy weans. should that not be: 'git oor Goody in e'll soon soart oot sooky huffy weans. , You need to be allin man .. Nae hawf herted atempts. Bye th way Welcome to the GOODY club Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pozbaird Posted September 5, 2018 Report Share Posted September 5, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, Desperately Seeking Susans said: I don't think there has ever been a prospective employee that has not promoted their talents or embellished their CV a little in trying to convince the employer that he or she is the right person for the job. Now, the employer wouldn't really know too much about the candidate other that what they can derive from the interview so the only way to evaluate the applicant is by asking pertinent questions. I suppose that's why companies have a department devoted to this science, namely - human resources. But in this case, Alan Stubbs' background was an open book; everybody knew of him; he couldn't hide nor tell lies so it was essentially down to the BoD to ask the relevant questions and analyse the answers. I think it a bit disingenuous to suggest AS pulled the wool over the eyes of the board who, if they have 'been burned and been hurting' implies naivety. I agree and disagree with a lot you say here. If GLS and Fitzy ignored, or glossed over Stubbs reign at Rotherham, then shame on them. However, a football manager’s job has so many imponderables, unknowns, until the bloke is actually working day to day with the players, and everyone sees the performances / results with their own eyes. Stubbs, Guti, McIntyre, Kearney, Goodwin, Guardiola... every one of them would have been a gamble and no guarantee of being a hit... so I stand by my view that no matter how much due diligence GLS and Fitzy undertook, the fact their chosen candidate has pretty much crashed and burned will have burned them, and they will, as they care about our club, be hurting. I simply don’t subscribe to the view that they should be hunted down by an angry mob with pitchforks, and made ‘to pay for their mistakes’. Edited September 5, 2018 by pozbaird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W6Saint Posted September 5, 2018 Report Share Posted September 5, 2018 I think there’s a difference between being ‘in the huff’ and being demotivated, leading to poor performances.Given Stubbs’ attitude to senior figures both privately and publically it’s absolutely no surprise they were performing poorly.Had to laugh a little at McShane’s dig at AS on national TV... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint in exile Posted September 5, 2018 Report Share Posted September 5, 2018 9 hours ago, pozbaird said: Clearly, the only solution is to get rid of Stubbs, Jackson and Rice for their mistakes. Get rid of GLS, the BoD, and any club official for their mistakes. Get rid of any players from the Jack Ross era who may or may not have been under performing and are making mistakes. Get rid of any players Stubbs signed who are perceived as ‘sub standard’ for the Scottish top flight and their mistakes. Get a brand new chairman, board, management team, and in January, once the squad is entirely, and I mean entirely, filled with new players of their choosing.... then we can all move on. Then, if it’s still shit, get rid of them all and start again.... and repeat. I don’t think it’s going out on a limb to suggest that of those interviewed, Stubbs did the best job of convincing the BoD he was the man. You often hear stories of actors going for jobs and when they are asked ‘can you ride a horse’ or whatever, they say ‘oh yeah, expert, horses? easy...’ having never been on one, but they need to get the job and they need to impress. Pretty sure Stubbs would have impressed with talk of contacts, quality loanees, and his Rotherham experience hardening him for the challenge, learned from his mistakes, fired up for the task, ready to pick up the torch from Jack, refreshed after a break from football, yadda, yadda. To some extent then, I feel Stubbs told them he was an expert horseman, oh aye, no trouble. I actually feel very sorry for GLS and Fitzy, who clearly, absolutely, must have been convinced Stubbs was the best candidate from those who applied, to take us on into the top flight. We are all sitting wondering how quickly feelgood factor can be blown out of the water, just think how those two men feel. They gave him the keys and he pretty much trashed their car for them. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but mine is that GLS and Fitzy have been burned and must be hurting, even more than us. Time to back them, and hope the next big decision they take works out. You forgot to add "Get rid of the supporters" for their knickerwetting or happy clapping, whichever they're guilty of. Get in a brand new set of fans with no baggage. Oh, and bin the tea lady while we're at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pozbaird Posted September 5, 2018 Report Share Posted September 5, 2018 1 hour ago, saint in exile said: You forgot to add "Get rid of the supporters" for their knickerwetting or happy clapping, whichever they're guilty of. Get in a brand new set of fans with no baggage. Oh, and bin the tea lady while we're at it. Good point. New management, new chairman, new BoD, new players, new staff, new supporters.... it’s the only way to move on from the mistakes we all make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybee Posted September 5, 2018 Report Share Posted September 5, 2018 2 hours ago, W6Saint said: I think there’s a difference between being ‘in the huff’ and being demotivated, leading to poor performances. Given Stubbs’ attitude to senior figures both privately and publically it’s absolutely no surprise they were performing poorly. Had to laugh a little at McShane’s dig at AS on national TV... I missed that what was it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLBud Posted September 5, 2018 Report Share Posted September 5, 2018 Well all the players are down at Mar Hall tomorrow including BOD, so we will see what the mood is. Hard par 5 1st should sort them outI like the 1st at Mar Hall. Great birdie opportunity[emoji106] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W6Saint Posted September 5, 2018 Report Share Posted September 5, 2018 I missed that what was it ? Thankfully some fella recorded it and stuck it on the Twitterweb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted September 6, 2018 Report Share Posted September 6, 2018 1 hour ago, W6Saint said: Thankfully some fella recorded it and stuck it on the Twitterweb This is why Twitter is shite. At no point did McShane have a "dig" and most importantly he didn't use the word "actually" so Jen is talking shite. There is nothing controversial in what he says here. He's hoping the next manager likes him and that leads to more game time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Arthur Blair Posted September 6, 2018 Report Share Posted September 6, 2018 WTF, McShane has had arse fat injected into his lips, look at the nick of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Lothian Saint Posted September 6, 2018 Report Share Posted September 6, 2018 (edited) Josh Heaton is ready to prove himself as one of Alan Stubbs' best signings at St Mirren. (Daily Record, print edition) Hopefully now everyone is over their huffs. The new manager will get some value for our 75K. Edited September 6, 2018 by East Lothian Saint in a huff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isle Of Bute Saint Posted September 6, 2018 Report Share Posted September 6, 2018 7 minutes ago, East Lothian Saint said: Josh Heaton is ready to prove himself as one of Alan Stubbs' best signings at St Mirren. (Daily Record, print edition) Hopefully now everyone is over their huffs. The new manager will get some value for our 75K. Clean slate for everyone a new beginning my good friend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Pityme Posted September 6, 2018 Report Share Posted September 6, 2018 I bet Oran is looking forward to inheriting a dressing room full of battlers! maybe not so much one where they are battling each other, with one half, blaming the other half for our performances and results, and the club captain going public in the media to single out the new guys as the reason we have bombed thus far? but hey they're still battlers! here's one from the squad Oran, or at least one side of it.. enjoy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted September 6, 2018 Report Share Posted September 6, 2018 Good point. New management, new chairman, new BoD, new players, new staff, new supporters.... it’s the only way to move on from the mistakes we all make.That's easy! Pick a new team and all that comes with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougJamie Posted September 6, 2018 Report Share Posted September 6, 2018 12 hours ago, DLBud said: I like the 1st at Mar Hall. Great birdie opportunity You obviously draw the ball................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paisley brazilians Posted September 6, 2018 Report Share Posted September 6, 2018 I want to see the st mirren of last season. pressing every ball staying tight to their man showing hunger and desire to win the games. That's what i go to see. If they come out and do that no matter who the manager is. That's all we ask for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougJamie Posted September 6, 2018 Report Share Posted September 6, 2018 5 minutes ago, Paisley brazilians said: I want to see the st mirren of last season. pressing every ball staying tight to their man showing hunger and desire to win the games. That's what i go to see. If they come out and do that no matter who the manager is. That's all we ask for. You mean like Livi of this season, last season and the season before that ..................... Its the min requirement of a professional footballer, so I demand to see it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLBud Posted September 6, 2018 Report Share Posted September 6, 2018 You obviously draw the ball.................More of a hook TBF but it works well enough![emoji23] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desnold Posted September 6, 2018 Report Share Posted September 6, 2018 Just now, DLBud said: More of a hook TBF but it works well enough! The fourth is a tougher hole. bunkers on the right, water on the left. I'm happy if I get better than a six on that one. You must hate that one too if you hook off the tee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paisley brazilians Posted September 6, 2018 Report Share Posted September 6, 2018 3 hours ago, DougJamie said: You mean like Livi of this season, last season and the season before that ..................... Its the min requirement of a professional footballer, so I demand to see it Correct. the basics of football we done it last season and half season before that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougJamie Posted September 6, 2018 Report Share Posted September 6, 2018 1 hour ago, DLBud said: More of a hook TBF but it works well enough! I used to be a hooker but I have a proper job now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlucifer Posted September 6, 2018 Report Share Posted September 6, 2018 20 hours ago, pozbaird said: Good point. New management, new chairman, new BoD, new players, new staff, new supporters.... it’s the only way to move on from the mistakes we all make. It worked for the rangers. Well, except for the supporters. Still knuckledraggers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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