Stu Posted September 10, 2018 Report Share Posted September 10, 2018 6 minutes ago, foxbar_bud said: I’m not defending Stubbs.... But this could be Rice just trying to get himself another gig! Blame it on the other guys That was my thoughts too. Rice may well be telling the truth, however he's hardly going to tell the new guy he was fully involved with what the previous boss did considering the mess he made of things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevo_smfc Posted September 10, 2018 Report Share Posted September 10, 2018 28 minutes ago, st jock said: Regarding OK saying he wants to win the league, i' d be more concerned if he didn't want to. Reach for the stars. I wouldn't expect anything less from our manager regardless of it being realistic or not. Your drum that winning mentality into your daily routine you can achieve to the best of your abilities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Posted September 10, 2018 Report Share Posted September 10, 2018 I've heard Rice is a popular enough figure around the club. We have to assume that GS and Fitzy have a sense of whether he is worth keeping on, in much the same way that they developed a sense that Stubbs (and Jackson) had to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callum Gilhooley Posted September 10, 2018 Report Share Posted September 10, 2018 Good honest interview, the win the league comment is being seized upon by some as a ridiculous thing to say but I get where he is coming from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Pityme Posted September 10, 2018 Report Share Posted September 10, 2018 13 minutes ago, Cornwall_Saint said: It's possible the players may have said this to OK. If Rice was bullshitting it wouldn't be long before the truth came out. 18 minutes ago, foxbar_bud said: I’m not defending Stubbs.... But this could be Rice just trying to get himself another gig! Blame it on the other guys Dont blame Rice or indeed Jackson for playing that card, after all the players did it, or at least half of them did, blaming the other half. Kearney has got some clusterf**k of an attitude and loyalty problem to sort out between elements of the squad and the coaching team. Common sense approach from him to take a bit of time to see who can back up their claims with actions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Ricky Posted September 10, 2018 Report Share Posted September 10, 2018 13 minutes ago, Lord Pityme said: Dont blame Rice or indeed Jackson for playing that card, after all the players did it, or at least half of them did, blaming the other half. Kearney has got some clusterf**k of an attitude and loyalty problem to sort out between elements of the squad and the coaching team. Common sense approach from him to take a bit of time to see who can back up their claims with actions. LPM. This agreeing with you thing is becoming a habit but I do. Taking a short time to have a look himself seems like the smart move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanleySaint Posted September 10, 2018 Report Share Posted September 10, 2018 Perhaps it was McManus he was referring to given OK's previous record with youth players? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Optimistic Posted September 10, 2018 Report Share Posted September 10, 2018 48 minutes ago, Drew said: I've heard Rice is a popular enough figure around the club. We have to assume that GS and Fitzy have a sense of whether he is worth keeping on, in much the same way that they developed a sense that Stubbs (and Jackson) had to go. Pity that they didn't sense Stubbs wasn't up to the job in the first place! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Posted September 10, 2018 Report Share Posted September 10, 2018 9 minutes ago, Mr Optimistic said: Pity that they didn't sense Stubbs wasn't up to the job in the first place! Hindsight, etc. The Rotherham shambles should have been a warning, however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack the lad Posted September 10, 2018 Report Share Posted September 10, 2018 2 hours ago, Callum Gilhooley said: Good honest interview, the win the league comment is being seized upon by some as a ridiculous thing to say but I get where he is coming from. Yeah, but why even say it, just setting himself up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougJamie Posted September 10, 2018 Report Share Posted September 10, 2018 4 minutes ago, Jack the lad said: Yeah, but why even say it, just setting himself up? He said he would like to not he will..... I would like to win the lottery and who knows one day I might................ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted September 10, 2018 Report Share Posted September 10, 2018 1 hour ago, StanleySaint said: Perhaps it was McManus he was referring to given OK's previous record with youth players? I'd wondered that but having listened to the interview he mentions something about a coach brought in by the previous manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Posted September 10, 2018 Report Share Posted September 10, 2018 Dont blame Rice or indeed Jackson for playing that card, after all the players did it, or at least half of them did, blaming the other half. Kearney has got some clusterf**k of an attitude and loyalty problem to sort out between elements of the squad and the coaching team. Common sense approach from him to take a bit of time to see who can back up their claims with actions.Jackson is away so harmoney resumes. There is no problem between the players or with Rice. We’re (now) on our way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TediousTom Posted September 10, 2018 Report Share Posted September 10, 2018 3 hours ago, Drew said: I've heard Rice is a popular enough figure around the club. We have to assume that GS and Fitzy have a sense of whether he is worth keeping on, in much the same way that they developed a sense that Stubbs (and Jackson) had to go. Agree totally. I have a lot of faith in wee Gordon with the daft car. A decisive man and decisive men are always better than those who sit on the fence. Anyway, back on topic. If Gordon with the daft car and Oran Kearney want Brian Rice to stay at the club then that is absolutely fine with me. The only thing I would like the club to clarify (a statement would be fine) is as to whether Brian Rice was in any way responsible for the signing of Cole Kpekewa? You know a wee statement such as The Saint Mirren FC board of directors are delighted to announce that Brian Rice will be retained in his capacity as assistant manager/moved to coach. In addressing the concerns of fans the board are keen inform our wonderful support that Brian was in no may responsible for the signing of Cole Kpekewa. The board would like to thank Brian for hard work during this tumultuous time and look forward to his valuable experience as we move forward with Oran Kearney. Oran said "Yes I am delighted that Brian will stay on, a great guy whom I look forward to building a new powerful team alongside. Especially without Cole Kpekewa whom I can confirm was signed entirely by Alan Stubbs and Darren Jackson, clearly why they lost the honour of leading this wonderful team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pod Posted September 10, 2018 Report Share Posted September 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Stu said: I'd wondered that but having listened to the interview he mentions something about a coach brought in by the previous manager. Which one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pod Posted September 10, 2018 Report Share Posted September 10, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, Lord Pityme said: Dont blame Rice or indeed Jackson for playing that card, after all the players did it, or at least half of them did, blaming the other half. Did they and what was the allegations ? Edited September 10, 2018 by pod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Posted September 10, 2018 Report Share Posted September 10, 2018 So the club are appointing a 'technical director'.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Pityme Posted September 10, 2018 Report Share Posted September 10, 2018 41 minutes ago, pod said: Did they and what was the allegations ? Did you miss our captain in the media blaming the new recruits for our poor start? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Ricky Posted September 10, 2018 Report Share Posted September 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, Lord Pityme said: Did you miss our captain in the media blaming the new recruits for our poor start? Something our new manager will address. Now (I hope) history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pod Posted September 10, 2018 Report Share Posted September 10, 2018 12 minutes ago, Lord Pityme said: Did you miss our captain in the media blaming the new recruits for our poor start? Nope. If he did, he wasn't alone. Was he wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callum Gilhooley Posted September 10, 2018 Report Share Posted September 10, 2018 13 minutes ago, Lord Pityme said: Did you miss our captain in the media blaming the new recruits for our poor start? So you`ve gone form HALF the team blaming the other half to ONE individual , who didnt actually blame anyone, he simply stated it was difficult as many of the new recruits had not had much game time before joining us. Oh , & in the same interview, he also said " we are ALL hurting , we need to ALL stick together ." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Pityme Posted September 10, 2018 Report Share Posted September 10, 2018 16 minutes ago, pod said: Nope. If he did, he wasn't alone. Was he wrong. He wasnt wrong, but he picked out specfic players to criticise in public which is poor form for a captain. Stubbs was rounded on for having the temerity to blame the whole team for our poor results. I guess st mirren fans can have their cake and eat it in the blame game. like i said previously Kearney has got that finger pointing attitude to deal with. There should only ever be one gaffer, thats who hands out the praise, and if due the specific criticism, behind doors! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybee Posted September 10, 2018 Report Share Posted September 10, 2018 40 minutes ago, Lord Pityme said: 1 hour ago, pod said: Did they and what was the allegations ? Did you miss our captain in the media blaming the new recruits for our poor start? never happened , simply your paranoia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isle Of Bute Saint Posted September 10, 2018 Report Share Posted September 10, 2018 30 minutes ago, Lord Pityme said: He wasnt wrong, but he picked out specfic players to criticise in public which is poor form for a captain. Stubbs was rounded on for having the temerity to blame the whole team for our poor results. I guess st mirren fans can have their cake and eat it in the blame game. like i said previously Kearney has got that finger pointing attitude to deal with. There should only ever be one gaffer, thats who hands out the praise, and if due the specific criticism, behind doors! He did not mention names he said summer recruited players had not played a lot of football and not many had played first team football. You have a way of twisting words to make them sound more worse than what was meant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Pityme Posted September 10, 2018 Report Share Posted September 10, 2018 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Isle Of Bute Saint said: He did not mention names he said summer recruited players had not played a lot of football and not many had played first team football. You have a way of twisting words to make them sound more worse than what was meant. No.. you insist that everything that comes out of smp is the best thing since sliced bread! McGinn was pointing the finger at one half of his team. What he didnt say was "its up to all of us to sort it out" he chose to use the new guys as the overriding reason for our poor performances. Kearney has to stamp that out. many on here are calling/hoping Kearney will unite the squad, club and fans. He can only do that if all involved sing from the same hymn sheet. And understanding the type of man he is, its obvious he wont let players spread disharmony on his watch. If they cross him, he'll bin them! Nothing twisted here in McGinn's actual words..."“I think the problem this window is that we have signed a lot of players who have not played a lot of football,” said McGinn he clearly labels those players as 'The Problem' Edited September 10, 2018 by Lord Pityme Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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