chalky1 Posted December 9, 2018 Report Share Posted December 9, 2018 14 minutes ago, St.Ricky said: Ah.. Whilst I am no Walter, I'd like to thank you for recognising that I have imagination. No but he is allowed to imagine that you are Walter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan Posted December 9, 2018 Report Share Posted December 9, 2018 The damage was done pre season. The initial mess by Stubbs didnt help. You could tell early doors how bad the side was. The team that won us the league were never going to take us forward as its a different type of player required. The only thing i could agree with is that Morgan was the difference in winning the league. I actually feel sorry for Oran as the team are not capable of doing what he asks. There are very few players I would keep for the SPL from this squad. We are poor from the keeper to front. Can only hope the right players come in to save our season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Ricky Posted December 9, 2018 Report Share Posted December 9, 2018 (edited) 36 minutes ago, chalky1 said: No but he is allowed to imagine that you are Walter Absolutely Chalky! It shows he has imagination. Edited December 9, 2018 by St.Ricky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Pityme Posted December 9, 2018 Report Share Posted December 9, 2018 1 hour ago, Cornwall_Saint said: Right now we know we require a massive rebuilding job, so IMO Kearney will be given more time than the average manager. I think a lot will depend on his activity in January. Positive signs in his acitivity could possibly end up allowing him to stay on even if relegated. If his signings are abysmal or no improvement on what we have, he may not be trusted with the summer rebuild. Alternatively, how does this work between Gus and Oran? If the signings are pish, is it both their faults or will one be largely to blame? Likewise if it’s a good market who takes the credit? A lot depends on January but Oran (tbf this partly applies to Gus to when he was with us) left Coleraine in a better position at the end of his time there and a trophy to top it off. Both men have proven they can take a club forward given time. Yeah most of this. Imo the best we can hope for is that Oran can find those three or four players that can join the decent ones we have and keep us up. Would take a in off the post, tenth sudden death penalty shoot out, play off against dundee utd win now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted December 9, 2018 Report Share Posted December 9, 2018 Danny Lennon, and before that Gus, also Smith & Bone, Fergie etc...We didn't sack Danny or gus.So using your examples we are talking 30 and 40 years ago. I know you like to blame the board for everything but dont you think that's pushing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud the Baker Posted December 9, 2018 Report Share Posted December 9, 2018 (edited) 41 minutes ago, TPAFKATS said: We didn't sack Danny or gus. So using your examples we are talking 30 and 40 years ago. I know you like to blame the board for everything but dont you think that's pushing it. Um, we sacked MacPherson & going down the not re-appointing Lennon route is pedantic. Edited December 9, 2018 by Bud the Baker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Pityme Posted December 9, 2018 Report Share Posted December 9, 2018 50 minutes ago, TPAFKATS said: We didn't sack Danny or gus. So using your examples we are talking 30 and 40 years ago. I know you like to blame the board for everything but dont you think that's pushing it. Yeah you are right, the board just said "you're no working here anymore" ffs... you cling on to that if it helps you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedflanders123 Posted December 9, 2018 Report Share Posted December 9, 2018 20 minutes ago, Lord Pityme said: Yeah you are right, the board just said "you're no working here anymore" ffs... you cling on to that if it helps you. There is a difference between being sacked (normally associated with dismissal during a fixed contract) and completing your tenure and not being offered a new contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud the Baker Posted December 9, 2018 Report Share Posted December 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, nedflanders123 said: There is a difference between being sacked (normally associated with dismissal during a fixed contract) and completing your tenure and not being offered a new contract. ................and if your position is filled by another person the difference is pedantry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Pityme Posted December 9, 2018 Report Share Posted December 9, 2018 11 minutes ago, nedflanders123 said: There is a difference between being sacked (normally associated with dismissal during a fixed contract) and completing your tenure and not being offered a new contract. This is the bit that fecks the bejebus out of me. They were both sacked, dispensed with, ditched, f**ked whatever. But people like you try to cling on to some other civil parting of the ways. Thats not what happened, otherwise they would still have been smfc employees, we sack successful managers... Ross being an exception. But hey in your thinking he wasnt whoriing himself round every English championship/ league one vacancy. He was putting smfc first! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mykey Posted December 9, 2018 Report Share Posted December 9, 2018 Imho Gus had to go, the football was turgid and horrible to watch. The sacking (not offering a new contract to) Danny Lennon was, on the other hand a huge mistake. What happens to Oran remains to be seen. I hope we won't be too impatient. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted December 9, 2018 Report Share Posted December 9, 2018 We didn't sack Danny or gus.So using your examples we are talking 30 and 40 years ago. I know you like to blame the board for everything but dont you think that's pushing it. Yeah you are right, the board just said "you're no working here anymore" ffs... you cling on to that if it helps you.It's like debating with the guy from Wishaw. You just move onto something else to deflect from being told you were incorrect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted December 9, 2018 Report Share Posted December 9, 2018 Um, we sacked MacPherson & going down the not re-appointing Lennon route is pedantic. Um we didn't sack gus. We gave him the required notice and let him run his contract down. If we'd sacked him, he wouldn't have worked his notice. It might be pedantic but it was to make a point re LPM continually running down the club and board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted December 9, 2018 Report Share Posted December 9, 2018 Yeah you are right, the board just said "you're no working here anymore" ffs... you cling on to that if it helps you.Do players get sacked if their contract isn't renewed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendo Posted December 9, 2018 Report Share Posted December 9, 2018 13 minutes ago, Mykey said: Imho Gus had to go, the football was turgid and horrible to watch. The sacking (not offering a new contract to) Danny Lennon was, on the other hand a huge mistake. What happens to Oran remains to be seen. I hope we won't be too impatient. I think Lennon's career after he left us has proved beyond doubt the calibre of manager that he was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted December 9, 2018 Report Share Posted December 9, 2018 1 minute ago, Hendo said: I think Lennon's career after he left us has proved beyond doubt the calibre of manager that he was. Wish we had a dud like Lennon right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mykey Posted December 9, 2018 Report Share Posted December 9, 2018 I'd give Lennon the gig right now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Pityme Posted December 9, 2018 Report Share Posted December 9, 2018 12 minutes ago, TPAFKATS said: Um we didn't sack gus. We gave him the required notice and let him run his contract down. If we'd sacked him, he wouldn't have worked his notice. It might be pedantic but it was to make a point re LPM continually running down the club and board. So did the club offer him to stay? ffs man this is making you look pathetic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mykey Posted December 9, 2018 Report Share Posted December 9, 2018 If you want to deal only in facts, a national trophy and 2 eight place finishes makes Danny Lennon the most successful manager in our history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted December 9, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2018 The Board of St Mirren Football Club sacked our wee legend, Danny Lennon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud the Baker Posted December 9, 2018 Report Share Posted December 9, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, TPAFKATS said: Um we didn't sack gus. We gave him the required notice and let him run his contract down. If we'd sacked him, he wouldn't have worked his notice. It might be pedantic but it was to make a point re LPM continually running down the club and board. He had a rolling contract which we terminated, he was paid to stay away while someone else did his job - to deny he was sacked goes beyond pedantic. Edited December 10, 2018 by Bud the Baker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendo Posted December 9, 2018 Report Share Posted December 9, 2018 22 minutes ago, shull said: The Board of St Mirren Football Club sacked our wee legend, Danny Lennon. A lot of revising history going on here. I liked Danny, but his time was up. The last season in particular was brutal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted December 9, 2018 Report Share Posted December 9, 2018 So did the club offer him to stay? ffs man this is making you look pathetic You'd know all about that.You seem to have missed my question about players contracts.If we don't renew a players contract are they also sacked? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted December 9, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2018 20 minutes ago, Hendo said: A lot of revising history going on here. I liked Danny, but his time was up. The last season in particular was brutal. History shows Danny won the League Cup and gave me my greatest day ever watching St Mirren. And the Board sacked him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beyond our ken Posted December 9, 2018 Report Share Posted December 9, 2018 37 minutes ago, Hendo said: A lot of revising history going on here. I liked Danny, but his time was up. The last season in particular was brutal. the one where we secured our highest ever SPFL placing? You are right, I hated that level of success Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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