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St Johnstone V St Mirren 27.10.18

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On ‎10‎/‎29‎/‎2018 at 11:48 AM, Doakes said:

Livingston play a very different style to us though. Tough, hard to break down - and play direct. 

Our style means we need to be better at football than the opposition. Sadly we don't have the players that are capable of doing that! 

We needed to bring in 2 or 3 Lewis Morgan's. Not Cody Cooke and Jeff King 

So, basically, playing direct football is a superior tactic than trying to 'play football'?

If that is the case, why don't we just switch tactics?

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20 minutes ago, Wendy Saintss said:

So, basically, playing direct football is a superior tactic than trying to 'play football'?

If that is the case, why don't we just switch tactics?

There's no denying it's more effective for a newly promoted club. Last year we were the best team in the Championship, playing the best football. Now we're one of the weaker teams in the Prem, but trying to play a similar style... I wouldn't be against playing more direct but we don't have enough physicality to make it work. Pretty sure Jack made a comment about wanting to bring in more physicality towards the end of last season... 

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On 10/27/2018 at 11:34 PM, ford prefect said:
On 10/27/2018 at 10:54 PM, Mr Optimistic said:
Condition tonight described as critical so looks like you've got what you hoped for. Hope you are proud of your post.

Absolutely. Maybe he's paying for sins in a previous life. Is that not the sort of thing he'd say?

I'd doubt it, As a born again christian he is unlikely to believe in earthly re-incarnation.  Maybe you know different.

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On 10/28/2018 at 10:27 AM, santaponsasaint said:

Livingston never planned to be in it period. But they seem to be doing alright. So your reasoning doesnt make much sense.

 

Livingston seem much more like a club working to a plan than we do.  I'd suggest that they are exactly where they hoped to be at this point.

Edited by beyond our ken

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42 minutes ago, Doakes said:

There's no denying it's more effective for a newly promoted club. Last year we were the best team in the Championship, playing the best football. Now we're one of the weaker teams in the Prem, but trying to play a similar style... I wouldn't be against playing more direct but we don't have enough physicality to make it work. Pretty sure Jack made a comment about wanting to bring in more physicality towards the end of last season... 

If what you are saying is true. What does that about the footballing brains at St Mirren ?

 

Same as Fulham and look how they are getting on........................ you need to adapt, we said ages ago we needed big strong players that would boss and bully, we got Stubbs lot and then 2 midgets from OK.......................... we dont have a front man, we dont have a big defender, we dont have a midfield muscle man................. we dont even have a red card

Wonder if Fitzy still thinks top 6 is on ?

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3 minutes ago, DougJamie said:

If what you are saying is true. What does that about the footballing brains at St Mirren ?

 

Same as Fulham and look how they are getting on........................ you need to adapt, we said ages ago we needed big strong players that would boss and bully, we got Stubbs lot and then 2 midgets from OK.......................... we dont have a front man, we dont have a big defender, we dont have a midfield muscle man................. we dont even have a red card

Wonder if Fitzy still thinks top 6 is on ?

Fully agree. Think we need a few big battering ram type players. Magennis puts himself about when fit but apart from that we've not got much dig. I like our style of football, but the players haven't adapted whatsoever. That's why I can't start blaming the manager at this stage. Anton Ferdinand looks composed and is used to that style, Jackson seems good at what he does but needs support. Hammill has a great delivery and is good on the ball. Think all 3 have improved the squad, but we still need another 3 or 4 that will add that physical element that we're lacking. Those players get snapped up quick in Scotland during the window, you get left with the technically good midgets if you don't act fast (or correctly, in stubbs case)

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2 hours ago, Doakes said:

Fully agree. Think we need a few big battering ram type players. Magennis puts himself about when fit but apart from that we've not got much dig. I like our style of football, but the players haven't adapted whatsoever. That's why I can't start blaming the manager at this stage. Anton Ferdinand looks composed and is used to that style, Jackson seems good at what he does but needs support. Hammill has a great delivery and is good on the ball. Think all 3 have improved the squad, but we still need another 3 or 4 that will add that physical element that we're lacking. Those players get snapped up quick in Scotland during the window, you get left with the technically good midgets if you don't act fast (or correctly, in stubbs case)

At the risk of riling  Oakie, I think the correct term is technically good little people.

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4 hours ago, Doakes said:

There's no denying it's more effective for a newly promoted club. Last year we were the best team in the Championship, playing the best football. Now we're one of the weaker teams in the Prem, but trying to play a similar style... I wouldn't be against playing more direct but we don't have enough physicality to make it work. Pretty sure Jack made a comment about wanting to bring in more physicality towards the end of last season... 

You are right. Jack Ross and Alan Stubbs highlighted that we lacked physicality.  Key players for us last season were Lewis Morgan, Cammy Smith and Gavin Reilly who scored a barrow load of goals. None of these are tall, physical players. We played to their strengths. As you have said elsewhere on this thread we still need another 3 or 4 players with skill, fitness and physicality. Oh - and who can score goals. Not a lot of them about. Which is why, after missing the early part of the transfer window due to Jack's vascillation, we found it impossible (?) to recruit any.

Edited by St.Ricky

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12 hours ago, Doakes said:

Thought we done well in the first half, was a tricky game with the wind. Should have went into half time at least 1-0 up. At 0-0, it gave Rangers the mental advantage knowing they had the wind behind them second half.

Not much we could have done about either goal, first was a total fluke. 

 

Samson 4/10 - think he had butter on his gloves

Erhahon 8/10 - really composed on the ball! Did well in a position that wasn’t natural to him

Jones 7/10 - strong performance 

Ferdinand 7/10 - another solid performance by the big man

Paul McGinn 6/10 - made some important tackles but thought he didn’t read the game well at times

Mcshane 7/10 - quiet game but put in a shift. Only reason not higher he overhit a few crosses and free kicks

S McGinn 7/10 - much better today, shame he got injured!

Edwards 8/10 - where did that performance come from? So much better

Willock 7/10 - good until his injury, won possession in good areas, didn’t do much wrong

Mullen 6/10 - think a bit out his depth but works hard

Jackson 6/10 - got bullied a bit but also worked hard

 

Subs- thought Cody Cooke pick of the bunch, won a few headers, much better from him. Good to see guys coming into the team and making the effort to impress the manager 

Wrong thread ya numpty. :lol:

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