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Celtic v St Mirren - 23rd January 2019 (with thanks to Eric Arthur Blair)

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3 minutes ago, Mid Calder Saint said:

I certainly never expected to win at Celtic Park but quite frankly we were absolutely woeful for goodness sake we are supposed to be full time pros.We had no pass marks our team had no shape character or desire.We had a sub subbed that’s how bad it was and shockingly bad on leadership.We have only a very short time to add to an extremely poor squad.I am now beginning to lose faith on all fronts.

If only we had Cammy tonight

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13 minutes ago, TPAFKATS said:
25 minutes ago, TopCat said:
Not surprised by the result, we’ve always lost at Parkhead in my memory (unless wee baldy is in charge).
 
Sounds like a familiarly pathetic and shambolic performance under Kearney though. Certainly not encouraging and back bottom of the league, where we deserve to be.
 
Dundee winning at Tynecastle... fear they may have turned a corner. We certainly haven’t
 

I've seen wee baldy manage a St. Mirren team that shipped double the number of goals that we did tonight.

No you haven't.

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9 minutes ago, Mid Calder Saint said:

I certainly never expected to win at Celtic Park but quite frankly we were absolutely woeful for goodness sake we are supposed to be full time pros.We had no pass marks our team had no shape character or desire.We had a sub subbed that’s how bad it was and shockingly bad on leadership.We have only a very short time to add to an extremely poor squad.I am now beginning to lose faith on all fronts.

Wasn’t Kellerman replaced due to Injury ?

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Firstly, I didn't expect anything from the game tonight result wise.

But, I did expect at least a few moments of decent play. Perhaps a few decent passing moves. Maybe even a couple of shots on goal. We got zero. Absolutely nothing.

I thought the team selection was wrong and whatever the tactics were, they didn't have a chance of working because the midfield couldn't string 2 passes together.

We still need at least 4 or 5 players in during the next week.

The midfield is the issue. Flynn & Kellerman won't do. They are not good enough. I am running out of hope with S McGinn in this league. I will hold judgement on Tansey and Lyons for a few weeks.

We need a left back, a centre mid, 1 or 2 wingers and a striker. 

Shocking performance regardless of who or where we were playing.

 

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16 minutes ago, Mid Calder Saint said:

I certainly never expected to win at Celtic Park but quite frankly we were absolutely woeful for goodness sake we are supposed to be full time pros.We had no pass marks our team had no shape character or desire.We had a sub subbed that’s how bad it was and shockingly bad on leadership.We have only a very short time to add to an extremely poor squad.I am now beginning to lose faith on all fronts.

Thought you weren’t going back?

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1 hour ago, Bud the Baker said:

As I mentioned before even JRs miracle recovery took a while to kick in, the man himself said it wasn't till the Ayr game in late February (25th IIRC) he felt we started playing consistently better - only a month to wait! :toilet

Indeed . At around this point in the season 2 year ago, we lost at home to QOS and Falkirk,  3-0 and 2-1 respectively. So lets not abandon all hope because we lose 4-0 to Celtic, woeful as the performance was.

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We are bottom and in honesty, we deserve to be. In truth, the only saving grace is that we have shipped the stubbs squad as we would only have been further adrift at this point had we not. 

We've a harder set of games than Dundee and Hamilton coming and we need to look at games such as St Jonstone a few weeks back and even Aberdeen and his lately and acknowledge we have threw points away. 

Defence and immediately in front of defence (central mid) is a real issue. 

Edited by spankin_panda

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2 minutes ago, Prague Buddie said:

Firstly, I didn't expect anything from the game tonight result wise.

But, I did expect at least a few moments of decent play. Perhaps a few decent passing moves. Maybe even a couple of shots on goal. We got zero. Absolutely nothing.

I thought the team selection was wrong and whatever the tactics were, they didn't have a chance of working because the midfield couldn't string 2 passes together.

We still need at least 4 or 5 players in during the next week.

The midfield is the issue. Flynn & Kellerman won't do. They are not good enough. I am running out of hope with S McGinn in this league. I will hold judgement on Tansey and Lyons for a few weeks.

We need a left back, a centre mid, 1 or 2 wingers and a striker. 

Shocking performance regardless of who or where we were playing.

 

TBH I forgot Lyons was on the pitch, (this week) barely involved. Flynn tried but no real bite.

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2 minutes ago, spankin_panda said:

We are bottom and in honesty, we deserve to be. In truth, the only saving grace is that we have shipped the stubbs squad as we would only have been further adrift at this point had we not. 

We've a harder set of games than Dundee and Hamilton coming and we need to look at games such as St Jonstone a few weeks back and even Aberdeen and his lately and acknowledge we have threw points away. 

Defence and immediately in front of defence (central mid) is a real issue. 

We all play the same teams. We need to be off the bottom and within a win of tenth at the split. That really is the target now. But infear Oran doesnt know how to play, to not lose?

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2 minutes ago, Lord Pityme said:

We all play the same teams. We need to be off the bottom and within a win of tenth at the split. That really is the target now. But infear Oran doesnt know how to play, to not lose?

To do that he really needs to get players in

That was a shambles tonight

I thought Sellic weren't that good we were dreadful

Time for Gus and co to up their game to give us a chance

The squad as shown tonight isn't good enough to compete in this league

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Shocking performance tonight.  We offered literally nothing from start to finish which isn't good enough - even at Celtic Park (even Airdrie managed to get 5 attempts on goal against them on Saturday).  Hopefully we'll see some much-needed investment in the squad this week. 

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An abject performance to say the least.

The lack of awareness or concentration from our players, especially the defenders is absolutely criminal. If they're not stopping and watching opposition players work a chance for themselves they're putting in half-arsed challenges that wouldn't dispossess an under 12.

Nobody is expecting to go to CP and pull off a shock but what I think we all expect is 100% effort and to see basic defending carried out. What do we work on in training on a weekly basis? We have no defensive shape or structure, the midfield never tracks back to help the defence and going forward we're horrible in possession - We are not a cohesive unit at all.

Can't get too carried away as it's Celtic and there's a huge gulf in class between both sides but after watching that tonight I reckon most if not all Premiership teams would've taken one or two from us.

Worrying.

Edited by Spam_Valley

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The difference in class showed in the goal scorers.  Burke 2, Sinclair 1.(pen) and Weah. Two debutants share 3 goals + 1 from a previous top scorer. 

One 15 million pound player,  one 1 million pounds plus player and a young player from what is,  arguably, currently the world's richest club. 

I'm not going to savage our players or our manager.  Our concern is the other end of this league and we are amazingly still in touch. 

As others have said though we have a difficult run of games coming up and we need to improve (not just add to the squad) 

Just a word on Hodson.  He suffered more than one very heavy challenge before being stretched off. 

He looked interested and was playing quite well. 

Hope he is OK for many reasons. 

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Admittedly a game we never expected anything from but watching any St Mirren team roll over like that is a disgrace.

All this chat for months about giving OK time with his own team, he should be capable of coaching players to do basics at the bare minimum. We’re now entering into the territory of it no longer being Stubbs’ team and we are still making the same basic errors we were in September. Concerning.

Finally, it’s time for 3/4 genuine quality players with a bit of fight - not faffing about with loan deals for Right Backs when we have 2 already (ironically 2 of our better players!)

Edited by W6Saint

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I don't expect us to beat Celtic but I sure as hell expect the team to compete. We are physically weaker than any other team in the league. We lack strength all over the park. Centre midfield is out its depth. McGinn is off the pace and i only wish he could tackle like his brother. John not Paul. I expected us to have players in quickly and can only hope those targeted are worth it. We need at least one striker, a winger, left and right back and definitely a strong Shuggy Murray type of centre midfield. 

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1 hour ago, south_seas_saint said:

29 years last time we won at pee heid not many of even our good squads have had better results ................this game does not dictate where we finish we know who we need to beat and we have time we are still in the race that's the main thing

better tell Top Cat he seems to think we used to win there when Gus was boss! In 4 seasons under Gus in the SPL we beat them once in the league and once in the cup, there were a few 1-5 defeats and a 0-7 under Gus.

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