Kemp Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 (edited) 54 minutes ago, W6Saint said: The very same, the one who also signed Mo Camara, Dennis Wyness, Tom Brighton etc. Two can play that game. ETA - very amusing seeing Gary Brady lumped in with that list of very good players... were you struggling for names? All managers will have bad signings. Every single one, even those operating on the fantasy budgets of the giant Spanish and English clubs get some wrong. More importantly, lets just get one thing clear. Gus MacPherson was not a great PR man, but he did an absolutely fantastic job as manager of St Mirren. He took over one of the worst ever St Mirren teams that John Coughlin had headed for the third tier and firmly established us in the Premier League for the first time since the 1980s. There is absolutely no arguing with this. Gus MacPherson was a tremendous St Mirren manager. You can argue about his current role at the club, but enough of this pish about him being a bad manager or bad in the transfer market. It is complete made up bollocks. Edited January 25, 2019 by Kemp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 It is also made up bollocks to say we sent Alfie Jones back. Why do so many on here live in fantasy land? Between the Brexiters and this I do despair! Southampton called back a whole load of their loanees when the new manager came in, Jones included. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeper07 Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, Kemp said: It is also made up bollocks to say we sent Alfie Jones back. Why do so many on here live in fantasy land? Between the Brexiters and this I do despair! Southampton called back a whole load of their loanees when the new manager came in, Jones included. There are a number on here who love a conspiracy theory or two Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 53 minutes ago, W6Saint said: The very same, the one who also signed Mo Camara, Dennis Wyness, Tom Brighton etc. Two can play that game. ETA - very amusing seeing Gary Brady lumped in with that list of very good players... were you struggling for names? You inferred that no decent player would want to sign for Gus. I was merely pointing out that many did. No manager gets them all right - even Sir Alex signed Camara. And Brady was a decent player for us - would certainly get a game for us just now if he was still young and fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melmac Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 In his defence, Tom Brighton was actually really good with us until a bad injury got in the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Pityme Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 1 hour ago, St.Ricky said: Where is Jack Ross when we need him? Any Sunderland players we might take on loan and do a job for us? He's flogging them to Dundee. Funny that considering he nearly went there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendo Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 15 minutes ago, melmac said: In his defence, Tom Brighton was actually really good with us until a bad injury got in the way. Yes, that was some 20 minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W6Saint Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 20 hours ago, Kemp said: All managers will have bad signings. Every single one, even those operating on the fantasy budgets of the giant Spanish and English clubs get some wrong You can argue about his current role at the club, but enough of this pish about him being a bad manager or bad in the transfer market. It is complete made up bollocks. They have millions to play with. We don’t. He was a good manager for us 15-10 years ago. Fantastic manager infact, however he left 9 years ago now because he had ran out of ideas. Much like your Jim Jeffries mould of manager - these guys no longer get jobs because times have changed. Time will tell in May. 20 hours ago, Sonny said: You inferred that no decent player would want to sign for Gus. I was merely pointing out that many did. No manager gets them all right - even Sir Alex signed Camara. And Brady was a decent player for us - would certainly get a game for us just now if he was still young and fit. Nope. Tansey is a good player, and he did sign some stars in his first spell. Just throwing the point in that perhaps if it’s him doing the negotiations he doesn’t inspire these guys - entirely plausible. Garry Brady was never young nor fit when he was with us... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northstbuddie Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 Desperate times call for desperate measures, but I reckon that's us got 6 loan signings to date and still counting... In addition we have a few other players either on short term contracts or no longer feature in OK's longer-term plans. Even if we survive our present plight we are all set for (another) massive clear-out at the end of this season and all that entails. And so it goes on - season after season. However, this is the St Mirren way after all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeper07 Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 (edited) 26 minutes ago, northstbuddie said: Desperate times call for desperate measures, but I reckon that's us got 6 loan signings to date and still counting... In addition we have a few other players either on short term contracts or no longer feature in OK's longer-term plans. Even if we survive our present plight we are all set for (another) massive clear-out at the end of this season and all that entails. And so it goes on - season after season. However, this is the St Mirren way after all. We have 5 loan players plus one (Popescu) that we have an option to buy on. Tansey and Hladky are on 18 month contracts. It will take time to have less loans and a better settled squad . . . Edited January 26, 2019 by Sweeper07 4 changed to 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 Is the limit 6 . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northstbuddie Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 4 minutes ago, Sweeper07 said: We have 4 loan players plus one (Popescu) that we have an option to buy on. Tansey and Hladky are on 18 month contracts. It will take time to have less loans and a better settled squad . . . According to my calculations we have Popescu, Lyons, McAllister, Hodson, Dreyer and Rogers currently on loan deals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldorf34 Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 12 minutes ago, northstbuddie said: Desperate times call for desperate measures, but I reckon that's us got 6 loan signings to date and still counting... In addition we have a few other players either on short term contracts or no longer feature in OK's longer-term plans. Even if we survive our present plight we are all set for (another) massive clear-out at the end of this season and all that entails. And so it goes on - season after season. However, this is the St Mirren way after all. We have lost our way,selling off all our assets to be replaced by passers by Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 16 minutes ago, northstbuddie said: Desperate times call for desperate measures, but I reckon that's us got 6 loan signings to date and still counting... In addition we have a few other players either on short term contracts or no longer feature in OK's longer-term plans. Even if we survive our present plight we are all set for (another) massive clear-out at the end of this season and all that entails. And so it goes on - season after season. However, this is the St Mirren way after all. It's the way of virtually every club in Scotland and has been for years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, waldorf34 said: We have lost our way,selling off all our assets to be replaced by passers by That makes no sense whatsoever. How exactly would you have stopped our assets from leaving the club? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northstbuddie Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, oaksoft said: It's the way of virtually every club in Scotland and has been for years. It would be interesting to establish how we compare re loan signings with other clubs in the Scottish Premiership. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, northstbuddie said: It would be interesting to establish how we compare re loan signings with other clubs in the Scottish Premiership. I don't see how it would help to pick holes like that in the middle of a relegation battle. The only thing we should be worrying about is surviving this season. Why look for negatives at a time when we need all the positives we can muster? Edited January 26, 2019 by oaksoft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeper07 Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 10 minutes ago, northstbuddie said: According to my calculations we have Popescu, Lyons, McAllister, Hodson, Dreyer and Rogers currently on loan deals. My POINT is that although Popescu IS a loan - we have an option to buy him But I see - I had not counted Rodgers - I thought he would be away by now also... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northstbuddie Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 1 minute ago, oaksoft said: I don't see how it would help to pick holes like that in the middle of a relegation battle. The only thing we should be worrying about is surviving this season. Why look for negatives at a time when we need all the positives we can muster? It wouldn't help but it would still be interesting. We certainly don't need to look for negatives - I agree with you on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedflanders123 Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 (edited) 41 minutes ago, northstbuddie said: It would be interesting to establish how we compare re loan signings with other clubs in the Scottish Premiership. Wages significantly affect quality of loanees. That is why players like Greg Stewart, Ryan Gauld etc are at Aberdeen and Hibs who pay 2-3 times what we offer. Edited January 26, 2019 by nedflanders123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 David McMillan being allowed to leave St. Johnstone. Certainly worth a look in my opinion. He got unlucky with an injury as a result a horror tackle by Tomas Cerny on his debut last season and has found himself on the fringes of the Saintees squad since. Still managed 10 starts and 4 goals for them though so he can do it at this level. He's very prolific at League of Ireland level with Dundalk and at 30, is a good age with plenty of experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Arthur Blair Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 Even "moneybags" Celtic have Benkovich, Burke and Weah on loan. It's just the way things are in modern day Scottish football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, waldorf34 said: We have lost our way,selling off all our assets to be replaced by passers by Maybe you should support another team then. Because you've got fuck all good to say about the team you supposedly support. Edited January 26, 2019 by FTOF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 I'd rather we have players on permanent contracts, and only one or two on loan. It's a long game to get to that point though, obviously the mission for this window was get anyone of decent quality in by any means possible! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MenstrieSaint Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 4 minutes ago, Kemp said: I'd rather we have players on permanent contracts, and only one or two on loan. It's a long game to get to that point though, obviously the mission for this window was get anyone of decent quality in by any means possible! Gives us the chance to see what's out there and also to develop a few decent relationships with agents at a higher level than we have previously been dealing with. So relatively happy with this transfer window. My only disappointment was that we didn't go down this way in May. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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