MenstrieSaint Posted December 27, 2018 Report Share Posted December 27, 2018 (edited) I keep on changing my mind about who should stay and who should go, but wouldn't be too upset if we were to be really ruthless. If Edwards, Rogers, Ferdinand , Hammill, Hodgson were to go we could quite easily bring five or six in for starters, McShane, Smith, Flynn and Kirkpatrick could be moved out on loan, and would be quite good signings for championship teams. Would maybe allow us to get another couple in. Not to sure what to do with Eckersley, Heaton, McKenzie and King, but we might be able to do something that allows us to get another player in. So realistically if Hamill and Ferdinand go we are well enough resourced to bring a few decent players in. I would try and build a team round both NcGinns, Magennis and Jackson. Lyness, McPherson, Erahon, Baird, Mullin, Cooke and Jones in an ideal world would be on the bench. So that would mean 8 new players coming in. Let's hope the management team have been busy identifying decent players. We are a decent prospect for ambitious young players, and I feel a transfer window will allow us to get a decent bit of shape to the team. Edited December 27, 2018 by MenstrieSaint Repeating Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted December 28, 2018 Report Share Posted December 28, 2018 (edited) According to the PDE that's Kpekawa, King and Heaton told that they can leave. OK states, " They are back down in England, and are working hard with their agents and hopefully we can get something sorted for them"* *I'm afraid the Xmas miracle has been and gone! OK to have further talks with Hammill and Lyness. Edited December 28, 2018 by FTOF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windae cleaner Posted December 28, 2018 Report Share Posted December 28, 2018 Just now, FTOF said: According to the PDE that's Kpekawa, King and Heaton departed. OK to have further talks with Hammill and Lyness. £75000 just spunked like that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeeBud Posted December 28, 2018 Report Share Posted December 28, 2018 Just now, windae cleaner said: £75000 just spunked like that if only it was the £75,000.00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted December 28, 2018 Report Share Posted December 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, windae cleaner said: £75000 just spunked like that You wonder how a manager can get it so wrong, when signing a player. He must have used up all his signing luck at Hibs. P.S. Am I allowed to refer to our previous manager? It would appear that he has been absolved of all blame for our current predicament by some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windae cleaner Posted December 28, 2018 Report Share Posted December 28, 2018 4 minutes ago, WeeBud said: if only it was the £75,000.00 I know it's like we have been part of a scam in the summer there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldo_j Posted December 28, 2018 Report Share Posted December 28, 2018 26 minutes ago, FTOF said: According to the PDE that's Kpekawa, King and Heaton told that they can leave. OK states, " They are back down in England, and are working hard with their agents and hopefully we can get something sorted for them"* *I'm afraid the Xmas miracle has been and gone! OK to have further talks with Hammill and Lyness. Link to article Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougJamie Posted December 28, 2018 Report Share Posted December 28, 2018 On 12/27/2018 at 7:17 AM, Isle Of Bute Saint said: Spot on with this. Not quite. Kyle and Cammy McPh. Good enough at this level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munoz Posted December 28, 2018 Report Share Posted December 28, 2018 The 3 players mentioned so far come us no great surprise. Will be interesting to see who follows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MenstrieSaint Posted December 28, 2018 Report Share Posted December 28, 2018 9 minutes ago, munoz said: The 3 players mentioned so far come us no great surprise. Will be interesting to see who follows. In my dreams I was hoping they would go out to Clyde and Dumbarton on loan to the end of the season and come back superstars , but it looks like that won't happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted December 28, 2018 Report Share Posted December 28, 2018 (edited) Heaton will surely go down as the worst piece of incoming business ever done by the club. Added incoming as of course sacking Fergie and letting Paul Lambert go for heehaw are worse. At a guess, these three must have cost us upwards of about £200k all things considered Edited December 28, 2018 by djchapsticks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougJamie Posted December 28, 2018 Report Share Posted December 28, 2018 1 minute ago, djchapsticks said: Heaton will surely go down as the worst piece of business ever done by the club. No....... Stubbs tops that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munoz Posted December 28, 2018 Report Share Posted December 28, 2018 Just now, MenstrieSaint said: In my dreams I was hoping they would go out to Clyde and Dumbarton on loan to the end of the season and come back superstars , but it looks like that won't happen Aye, you always hope every player we sign turns out to be a success. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldo_j Posted December 28, 2018 Report Share Posted December 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, djchapsticks said: Heaton will surely go down as the worst piece of business ever done by the club. Definitely up there. The two of them will definitely feature in the top five worst defenders in the last 30 years. Can only think of the diddy defenders signed at the end of the Hendrie era (Fellner & Dietrich?) as being worse centre backs. Probably more there, but we’ve always done not too bad in that position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted December 28, 2018 Report Share Posted December 28, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, aldo_j said: Definitely up there. The two of them will definitely feature in the top five worst defenders in the last 30 years. Can only think of the diddy defenders signed at the end of the Hendrie era (Fellner & Dietrich?) as being worse centre backs. Probably more there, but we’ve always done not too bad in that position. I can't even comment on his ability that extensively. I saw him once, he was poor but everyone has a poor game. He's obviously not up to it though either in terms of ability, application or both. The fact that we've shelled out, all in all, over 100k for what we got in return is what makes it such terrible business. Edited December 28, 2018 by djchapsticks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munoz Posted December 28, 2018 Report Share Posted December 28, 2018 On the plus side , can you imagine the state we'd be in now if it hadn't been for the J McGinn cash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DumboBud Posted December 28, 2018 Report Share Posted December 28, 2018 Perhaps Stubbs will look to recruit these guys again once he is back in management......... there is a big difference between them being told you are free to find a new club and them actually leaving. We could be stuck with them for a while yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prague Buddie Posted December 28, 2018 Report Share Posted December 28, 2018 27 minutes ago, djchapsticks said: Heaton will surely go down as the worst piece of incoming business ever done by the club. Added incoming as of course sacking Fergie and letting Paul Lambert go for heehaw are worse. At a guess, these three must have cost us upwards of about £200k all things considered If I remember right, the deal for Lambert was 250,000 plus Jim Gardner(worst player I ever seen in a Saints shirt) . Could be wrong though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windae cleaner Posted December 28, 2018 Report Share Posted December 28, 2018 5 minutes ago, Prague Buddie said: If I remember right, the deal for Lambert was 250,000 plus Jim Gardner(worst player I ever seen in a Saints shirt) . Could be wrong though. £60k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted December 28, 2018 Report Share Posted December 28, 2018 13 minutes ago, Prague Buddie said: If I remember right, the deal for Lambert was 250,000 plus Jim Gardner(worst player I ever seen in a Saints shirt) . Could be wrong though. 7 minutes ago, windae cleaner said: £60k Fair enough. £60k is still a woeful amount. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattman Posted December 28, 2018 Report Share Posted December 28, 2018 Was hoping heaton would come onto a game, but seemed to have spat the dummy going by his Instagram the past few months. Wasted money. We move on. Certain to be more to follow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan Posted December 28, 2018 Report Share Posted December 28, 2018 Just shows how badly Stubbs got it wrong. We need to clear the decks and recruit wisely. This has been a painful lesson but time to move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted December 28, 2018 Report Share Posted December 28, 2018 I know it's like we have been part of a scam in the summer thereAye, it's like our previous manager was on a fee for every V9 signing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Urquhart Posted December 28, 2018 Report Share Posted December 28, 2018 Disasterous recruitment policy. Our board shoulder ultimate responsibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamhammer Posted December 28, 2018 Report Share Posted December 28, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, djchapsticks said: Heaton will surely go down as the worst piece of incoming business ever done by the club. Not even close, Manley 300,000- Wishart 250,000 Stickroth 400,000 Christ knows what Archibald cost in wages. In todays money that would be over 2 million all signed by the same guy who recruited stubbs Edited December 28, 2018 by Iamhammer To Add also a main reason we sold Love Street Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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