Eric Arthur Blair Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 8 hours ago, Sonny said: He also singed Charlie Adam, Billy Goal Machine Memhet, John Sutton and Andy Dorman. Just as well that the King of Spain wasn't available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Pityme Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 1 hour ago, TPAFKA Jersey 2 said: Ahhhhhh. I’ve solved this mystery. There is a discrepancy in the definitions of “proven at this level”. You think it’s the above, whilst sane people think it isn’t. Glad we’ve sorted that all out. Yeah, like who wants an unproven striker at this level who can only manage five goals in his last seven games. You are unnecessarily making yourself look silly on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ScotstounSaint Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 Another great result for smart-arse Heaton tonight. Beaten by the mighty Spennymoor Town. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddie-Boy Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 Another great result for smart-arse Heaton tonight. Beaten by the mighty Spennymoor Town.Hope he doesn’t get sent back to us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Monkey Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 8 hours ago, ScotstounSaint said: Another great result for smart-arse Heaton tonight. Beaten by the mighty Spennymoor Town. Thing is, we've got him signed up for another two years after this season. I want him to do well down there so we can at least get a small fee for him. Yeah, he used the wrong words in that interview, but we still need him to perform. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MenstrieSaint Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 1 minute ago, Magic Monkey said: Thing is, we've got him signed up for another two years after this season. I want him to do well down there so we can at least get a small fee for him. Yeah, he used the wrong words in that interview, but we still need him to perform. Maybe an unsuccessful loan spell might be the kick up the arse he needs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Monkey Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 Just now, MenstrieSaint said: Maybe an unsuccessful loan spell might be the kick up the arse he needs. Nah, I'd still rather he came back to us on form and keen to prove a point. Or didn't come back and we could sell him to some mug down south. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Pityme Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 1 hour ago, MenstrieSaint said: Maybe an unsuccessful loan spell might be the kick up the arse he needs. I doubt there's an un kicked spot left on that arse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornwall_Saint Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Magic Monkey said: Thing is, we've got him signed up for another two years after this season. I want him to do well down there so we can at least get a small fee for him. Yeah, he used the wrong words in that interview, but we still need him to perform. With you on this. I want to see him play well there and either work his way into our team or get sold and recoup some money. I know he sounded quite bitter in the interview but I wonder if there’s more to it. A while back there was a suggestion we only paid 25K and the rest of the fee was add ons. Perhaps he isn’t actually that bad a player, but from our end not good enough to warrant splashing out extra money on. Hence why he hasn’t been on the bench since October. In which case I would completely understand his bitterness. I want to keep an open mind on it until we get some truths on the whole situation. Maybe he’s got good reason to be pissed off. Maybe he is just a knob. I don’t want to judge which one the answer is yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 Seem to be a few suggestions Kellerman may go back to Aldershot. Not sure how that works with him having played for us and Fylde - unless there's different rules for England or non-league clubs, or the fact he's going back to a club he's played at before in the last 12 months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevo_smfc Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 5 minutes ago, Stu said: Seem to be a few suggestions Kellerman may go back to Aldershot. Not sure how that works with him having played for us and Fylde - unless there's different rules for England or non-league clubs, or the fact he's going back to a club he's played at before in the last 12 months. I thought the same. I mind a coupel of years ago Morton got stung for this on their signing of Tidser in the January window. Signed him then didn't realise he couldn't play for them till next season! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pod Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Magic Monkey said: Nah, I'd still rather he came back to us on form and keen to prove a point. Or didn't come back and we could sell him to some mug down south. Already been done once. Edited January 9, 2019 by pod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendy Saintss Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 The team that Stubbs took over finished above Livi in the league. Yes We lost some good players but he should have been able to build on that by bringing in a few better players. Livi retained the majority of a weaker team than us and their wage structure is smaller yet Stubbs made a complete mess of summer recruitment. Being able to offer bigger wages and SP football, he still never managed it, not a single one. That is nothing short of a staggering failure for a man that will never again get a job in football management. Credit where credit is due to Livi for punching way above their weight but there is zero question that Stubbs had a complete disaster in every aspect of his time at SMFC and that was not down to being left with a poor team.Stubbs didn’t do a good job.Not really what I’m talking about though!We’re only going to be left with 2 of the regulars in the side that won promotion and JR only signed one of them!Stubbs inherited a pile of shite! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendy Saintss Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 To be fair Wendy, Eckersley and MacKenzie are still here but injured. Smith was recalled by Hearts and Davis left. Not much the club could do there. I didnt say there was anything the club could do!Fact is that Stubbs inherited absolute crap! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendy Saintss Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 Ha Ha Ha. In what way is Hardie "proven at this level"? Hilarious.He scores goals at this level? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendy Saintss Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 Yeah, like who wants an unproven striker at this level who can only manage five goals in his last seven games. You are unnecessarily making yourself look silly on this. Not for the first time either! [emoji1] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazil85 Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 37 minutes ago, Wendy Saintss said: Stubbs didn’t do a good job. Not really what I’m talking about though! We’re only going to be left with 2 of the regulars in the side that won promotion and JR only signed one of them! Stubbs inherited a pile of shite! Stubbs didn’t inherit anything worse than the majority of teams that get promoted. It wasn’t considerably worse than anyone else bar teams like Hibs, Hearts, Sevco in recent years. The fact remains, regardless of your thoughts on what he inherited, it must be close to unheard of for a promoted teams new manager not to sign a single player better than the starter in that position the previous year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beyond our ken Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 we had some good players las year, we also had some shite who, it is now clear, would never have gotten a win bonus never mind a winners medal had they not been fortunate enough to have Lewis Morgan in their team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibbles old paperboy Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 12 minutes ago, beyond our ken said: we had some good players las year, we also had some shite who, it is now clear, would never have gotten a win bonus never mind a winners medal had they not been fortunate enough to have Lewis Morgan in their team Was Lewis Morgan not in the team in the days of Tommy Craig, Gary Teale, Ian Murray and Alex Rae? I don't remember too many win bonuses in those eras (outside of Rae's first season) when Morgan was part of the squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornwall_Saint Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 1 minute ago, Dibbles old paperboy said: Was Lewis Morgan not in the team in the days of Tommy Craig, Gary Teale, Ian Murray and Alex Rae? I don't remember too many win bonuses in those eras (outside of Rae's first season) when Morgan was part of the squad. He was also part of the team that didn’t kick off when JR came in, hence the wholesale changes in January. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendy Saintss Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 Stubbs didn’t inherit anything worse than the majority of teams that get promoted. It wasn’t considerably worse than anyone else bar teams like Hibs, Hearts, Sevco in recent years. The fact remains, regardless of your thoughts on what he inherited, it must be close to unheard of for a promoted teams new manager not to sign a single player better than the starter in that position the previous year. Apart from Livi.....Again, your Stubbs signing point is irrelevant because I wasn’t discussing the job that Stubbs did - which wasn’t very good!As I said, only 2 regulars will be left, McGinn and Magennis.Now THAT really is unheard of and highlights how bad the squad was that Stubbs inherited.Probably the worst promoted squad in history!Regardless of the bad job that Stubbs did, albeit we only got 4 games to find out, whoever took over was going to be up against it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendy Saintss Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 we had some good players las year, we also had some shite who, it is now clear, would never have gotten a win bonus never mind a winners medal had they not been fortunate enough to have Lewis Morgan in their teamThere will only be McGinn and Magennis left.The rest weren’t good enough for top flight football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendy Saintss Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 He was also part of the team that didn’t kick off when JR came in, hence the wholesale changes in January.Those changes were good enough to keep us up and get us promoted.JR did an amazing job.But the fact is that another rebuilding job was obviously required this summer.Gordon Scott fcuked by by taking ages over the new manager then making it Stubbs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedflanders123 Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 1 minute ago, Wendy Saintss said: There will only be McGinn and Magennis left. The rest weren’t good enough for top flight football. Baird and Smith are still there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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