Lord Pityme Posted January 18, 2019 Report Share Posted January 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, Wendy Saintss said: No you are wrong in "essence" and in fact! As a full pro Hammill has had 7 loans. "A fair few moves" = 12 Your question is irrelevant to the point in discussion. I'm not comparing Hammill's ability with Sammon! I used Hamill as an example that someone who has loads of loans and clubs can still be a good signing. The example therefore makes your point about Sammon's loans and clubs irrelevant! I'd rather pick Lionel Messi than Hammill or Sammon.... but just like your comparison.... its irrelevant! Hammil it is then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendy Saintss Posted January 18, 2019 Report Share Posted January 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Magic Monkey said: I think it was longer ago than that, tbh. Fake edit: he was ok for Partick 17-18. 10 goals in 24 starts for a terrible Partick side just last season is decent..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendy Saintss Posted January 18, 2019 Report Share Posted January 18, 2019 Just now, Lord Pityme said: Hammil it is then. Glad you agree that players with loads of clubs and loans can be good signings! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Monkey Posted January 18, 2019 Report Share Posted January 18, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Wendy Saintss said: 10 goals in 24 starts for a terrible Partick side just last season is decent..... Yeah, it's really not bad. In fact, that's pretty much his career-best goals average (at a glance, that is,. I've not done all the sums.) Maybe we could do worse after all... We'd still need to load the side with width and pace around him. Neither of which we really have. Edited January 18, 2019 by Magic Monkey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougJamie Posted January 18, 2019 Report Share Posted January 18, 2019 I am dont think a CF the likes of Sammon is important to us. Cooke is just as good. Oran tried to keep us in games ala Gus for the last 6/7 before split and he has strengthened the back and midfield . Be really interesting to see how we set up against a lower Championship team tomorrow, hardly great practise for Celtic /Hibs games............. I am actually pretty encouraged with our Jan biz so far Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrshire Saints Posted January 18, 2019 Report Share Posted January 18, 2019 51 minutes ago, Sweeper07 said: Didn't he come up with Popescu, Hladky and Tansey and those we have still to sign in this window? You are missing my point. I'm not saying Boyd won't do a job but we hardly need to be paying someone for months to come up with his name. Three so far - you can't give any credit for players we may or may not sign in the future, that's a complete unknown especially if they are of the ilk of Sammon and Boyd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendy Saintss Posted January 18, 2019 Report Share Posted January 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, Ayrshire Saints said: You are missing my point. I'm not saying Boyd won't do a job but we hardly need to be paying someone for months to come up with his name. Three so far - you can't give any credit for players we may or may not sign in the future, that's a complete unknown especially if they are of the ilk of Sammon and Boyd. So you're saying that because we now have Gus, that we should only sign players that none of us have heard of? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeper07 Posted January 18, 2019 Report Share Posted January 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Ayrshire Saints said: You are missing my point. I'm not saying Boyd won't do a job but we hardly need to be paying someone for months to come up with his name. Three so far - you can't give any credit for players we may or may not sign in the future, that's a complete unknown especially if they are of the ilk of Sammon and Boyd. No I got your point - but as yet we do not know if Boyd or Sammon are really going to be signed... the other 3 we do know about... Even if one or other was signed, it does not negate the good work already done by our management team. We were in dire straits (squad wise when OK arrived) - they have unloaded 15 with more today which is absolutely amazing and completely necessary - let's give them the window they have to show what else they will bring in... whatever that finally amounts to. In my humble opinion it will give us a future in the Premiership - this was no minor task - so I will be positive and supportive about what is going on to make this happen... I won't judge any of their signings until the season is over... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrok Posted January 18, 2019 Report Share Posted January 18, 2019 No you are wrong in "essence" and in fact! As a full pro Hammill has had 7 loans. "A fair few moves" = 12 Your question is irrelevant to the point in discussion. I'm not comparing Hammill's ability with Sammon! I used Hamill as an example that someone who has loads of loans and clubs can still be a good signing. The example therefore makes your point about Sammon's loans and clubs irrelevant! I'd rather pick Lionel Messi than Hammill or Sammon.... but just like your comparison.... its irrelevant!Hammill wasn't on loan he signed a short term contract, that's the problem with loan players they don't perform as well players that have signed for us. No to Boyd and Sammon. Although i will take Lewis Morgan back because of his affinity to st mirren but he is an exception. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted January 18, 2019 Report Share Posted January 18, 2019 1 in 3 is a good return at this level, and that was only last season. I do wonder how many minutes of Connor Samon in action everyone posting on this thread has actually seen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted January 18, 2019 Report Share Posted January 18, 2019 31 minutes ago, DougJamie said: I am dont think a CF the likes of Sammon is important to us. Cooke is just as good. Oran tried to keep us in games ala Gus for the last 6/7 before split and he has strengthened the back and midfield . Be really interesting to see how we set up against a lower Championship team tomorrow, hardly great practise for Celtic /Hibs games............. I am actually pretty encouraged with our Jan biz so far Cody Cooke has scored a total of 0 goals at this level. Connor Sammon has a proven track record. What makes you think Cooke is anywhere near as good as Sammon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MenstrieSaint Posted January 18, 2019 Report Share Posted January 18, 2019 49 minutes ago, HSS said: Boyd could do a job for us til the end of the season.Sammon?He's better than anything we have just now so I'd give him til end of season if there is no one else available. Not my ideal choice of signings, but they are better than nothing, and would only take one of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W6Saint Posted January 18, 2019 Report Share Posted January 18, 2019 Sammon would be a distinctly underwhelming signing. Seems as if some things we had in the pipeline have not came off well and as a result we’ve collapsed into a panic. Letting our (arguably) best player from last year go; Targetting Conor Sammon; Accies signing a very good player in Andreu; luckily Dundee’s business so far has been terrible... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddies1877 Posted January 18, 2019 Report Share Posted January 18, 2019 that's the problem with loan players they don't perform as well players that have signed for usWhat a load of pish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted January 18, 2019 Report Share Posted January 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, buddies1877 said: What a load of pish If I understand what he is trying to say there, it isn't a load if pish. Our record in the loan market is f**king terrible. Kearney said himself he wants to get away from that in the future, but we need to take what we can at the moment. Lyons is obviously an exception as a player Kearney already knows well. Taking punts on guys from the EPL though is almost always a disaster for Scottish clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougJamie Posted January 18, 2019 Report Share Posted January 18, 2019 15 minutes ago, Kemp said: Cody Cooke has scored a total of 0 goals at this level. Connor Sammon has a proven track record. What makes you think Cooke is anywhere near as good as Sammon? I said he was just as good. Sammon recent record is just as poor...... and I dont see it being a step up. Plus the coaches know Cooke . Cooke is not the answer either , we need to stop losing goals first and it that regard we were better towards the end of December Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted January 18, 2019 Report Share Posted January 18, 2019 I think Sammon plays a similar style to Sam Parkin, and he was an underwhelming success up front for us. Unbelievable to think that Parkin won a league up winner's medal while he was with us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted January 18, 2019 Report Share Posted January 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, DougJamie said: I said he was just as good. Sammon recent record is just as poor...... and I dont see it being a step up. Plus the coaches know Cooke . Cooke is not the answer either , we need to stop losing goals first and it that regard we were better towards the end of December 3 It's just been shown above that it clearly is not "The coaches know Cooke". Aye, they know he can do f**k all....hence why are looking at Connor Sammon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendy Saintss Posted January 18, 2019 Report Share Posted January 18, 2019 (edited) 39 minutes ago, Jrok said: that's the problem with loan players they don't perform as well players that have signed for us. Apart from Lewis Morgan, Charlie Adam, Ismael Goncalves, Graham Carey, Paul Dummett, Connor Newton, Paul McGowan, Scott Cuthbert, Barry Lavety, etc, etc, etc.... Edited January 18, 2019 by Wendy Saintss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack the lad Posted January 18, 2019 Report Share Posted January 18, 2019 Lunchtime at Linwood ASDA and all quiet, although there are some good offers on L'Oreal hair products and some salmon fillets! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandabreath93 Posted January 18, 2019 Report Share Posted January 18, 2019 Gus signed Marc Corcoran therefore I trust him to make good signings. It was only the fans who didn't appreciate how good he was. The St Mirren boo boys don't like players who take a man on. The only like wee defensive minded midfielders who run about alot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxbar_bud Posted January 18, 2019 Report Share Posted January 18, 2019 I think Sammon plays a similar style to Sam Parkin, and he was an underwhelming success up front for us. Unbelievable to think that Parkin won a league up winner's medal while he was with us.Not thrilled with the potential Sammon signing but he’s far more mobile than Parkin was. And still has some pace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandabreath93 Posted January 18, 2019 Report Share Posted January 18, 2019 15 minutes ago, Wilbur said: I think Sammon plays a similar style to Sam Parkin, and he was an underwhelming success up front for us. Unbelievable to think that Parkin won a league up winner's medal while he was with us. Just because they are both big and bald doesn't mean they have the same play style Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeper07 Posted January 18, 2019 Report Share Posted January 18, 2019 1 minute ago, pandabreath93 said: Just because they are both big and bald doesn't mean they have the same play style Lets stop presuming Sammon is signing - today the jungle drums are saying a winger and a keeper - not a CF and 1 or 2 away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack the lad Posted January 18, 2019 Report Share Posted January 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, pandabreath93 said: Just because they are both big and bald doesn't mean they have the same play style Both went down south. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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