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2 minutes ago, div said:

Yeah I think it's fair to assume that the vast majority of the McGinn money will be gone.

A big opportunity missed sadly!

Definately a very bad error of judgement by the Board. If the McGinn money was nearly a million (?) I can't see how the Stubbs debacle could have blown all of it. What salaries were those guys on?

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3 hours ago, beyond our ken said:

Can I just say that the footage of DN reminds me more than a little of Barry lavety's style, which is all good by me

Like Basher, he's got a big backside. Ideal in this league for holding off over-tactile defenders. They always said Paul Scholes' arse was his secret weapon, you know. 

On many of Nazon's goals, it's how quickly he shoots that has got me excited (even more than his big backside). He seems to take his chances early. We have got to get this guy the support and service he needs.

This clip - watch how early he strikes the ball on most the goals he scores.

 

Edited by Magic Monkey

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1 hour ago, Doakes said:

Good thing is with players not on long term deals, if we do go down we'll be able to rebuild with whatever budget is available. If we stay up,. we'll be fine. Don't think the risk is as much as some are making out 

Off the top of my head, the only 2 players we've got tied down on longer term deals are Magennis and Erhahon?

I think Hladky and Tansey are on 18 month deals - Heaton on a 3 year deal but by the summer it will be 2 more.

Not sure about guys like MacPherson but suspect he will not be on better than Championship money yet anyway...

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Certainly a gamble but one that had to be made. With the squad we had we were going straight down. Unfortunately due to the Stubbs fiasco we have now spent more than we should have. We will still have a team to support next season. Following saints is more downs than ups as we all know. Let's enjoy the ride

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1 hour ago, div said:

Yeah I think it's fair to assume that the vast majority of the McGinn money will be gone.

A big opportunity missed sadly!

I concede that you are far more likely to have heard comments internally that I will - but assuming can be very different from the reality.

We could each trot out what cost us and where we gained income from various things etc. But have we as yet had the vast majority of the McGinn money? Was it paid in 2 or 3 tranches etc.? I do think we got a number of bigger earners off the books and to date we are paying 10 instead of 16 previously. As well as this where we finish in the league can change what funds we gain at the end of the season too.

What I am really asking is how much is this your assumption, I know based on a number of things that have happened OR based on folk internally dropping this idea with some serious concern? Did we not set off with the budget before we knew that the McGinn money was coming our way?

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11 minutes ago, Magic Monkey said:

Like Basher, he's got a big backside. Ideal in this league for holding off over-tactile defenders. They always said Paul Scholes' arse was his secret weapon, you know. 

On many of Nazon's goals, it's how quickly he shoots that has got me excited (even more than his big backside). He seems to take his chances early. We have got to get this guy the support and service he needs.

A few mentions of this guy's rear end there MM! A few goals won't go amiss. Feed the Duck. (Hope he doesn't dive)

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3 hours ago, Wendy Saintss said:

So, in order to prove that Div didn't say what he did, you've quoted what he said....

and then made up something that LPM said and didn't quote it!

Brilliant! :lol:

 

 

If you read back, you'll see I clearly stated if Div had quoted the same as LPM which was that we would bring in a 'maximum' of three players, he'd be wrong.

It was soon confirmed you comparing what he said to LPM was incorrect. I shared the screenshot that he didn't mention about more players leaving and that meaning more would come in (which Div had said) I even shared LPM stating 10 or more leaving was 'fantasy' 

What do you think I made up that he said? You're obviously too proud to admit you've been proven wrong. That doesn't change the fact though :booty

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9 minutes ago, St.Ricky said:

A few mentions of this guy's rear end there MM! A few goals won't go amiss. Feed the Duck. (Hope he doesn't dive)

I might be in the minority but an occasional dive if it brings us points in I am okay with - it will balance up against those in other teams who do likewise to us.

So if he dives I am fine with that but I hope is that he does not bomb

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2 minutes ago, Sweeper07 said:

I might be in the minority but an occasional dive if it brings us points in I am okay with - it will balance up against those in other teams who do likewise to us.

So if he dives I am fine with that but I hope is that he does not bomb

It was a play on words Sweeper as in "Ducking and Diving " but I get your point.

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Far too many new signings for individual new songs you’d think so why not squeeze them all into one!

Do you Remember?

When Stubbsy got sacked in September,

After filling the squad with pretenders

Four months later and they’re all awaaaaay....

 

oh oh oh

We’ve got Tansey and Hladky

oh oh oh

Jordan Holmes and Bradley 

oh oh oh

They were Muzek to our ears!!!!

 

Oh oh oh 

Dreyer and Popescu 

oh oh oh

McAllister and Corbu 

oh oh oh 

Nazon saved us all from tears!!

 

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Surely all we needed to do was supplement last season's brilliant squad with a couple of signings?
After all, Livi are sitting comfortably in the table with the exact same players they had in League One plus a couple of Partick Thistle rejects and our squad finished way ahead of them.....   :rolleyes:
I await the usual abuse.
 
 
Go and support livi then.

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2 hours ago, magnus said:

Definately a very bad error of judgement by the Board. If the McGinn money was nearly a million (?) I can't see how the Stubbs debacle could have blown all of it. What salaries were those guys on?

BigB)

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5 hours ago, Kemp said:

Not sure at all where all this "well done the management" arse licking is coming from?

This looks to me like a lot of hopeful random punts cobbled together at the end of the window. Has Gus been out to scout these guys or have they been brought in on the basis of some youtube videos? The 2nd lad from Dinamo Bucharest presumably here after a last minute suggestion from his mate :lol:

Obviously, I hope these guys have a storming half season with us! But why are so many trying to delude themselves by suggesting there was some form of strategic planning and execution behind this random jumble of signings?

Correct. 

Some are mistaking negativity for realism. Some are making out these signings can’t possibly go wrong because the recruitment team have watched them. 

Lording the signing of any old striker over the people questioning our dealings this window like some kind of victory is laughable and makes them seem more like loons than those who are concerned about our strategy.

I hope it turns out to be a stroke of genius, but i’ll reserve my praise until May without being called a knickerwetter thanks.

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2 hours ago, Sweeper07 said:

I concede that you are far more likely to have heard comments internally that I will - but assuming can be very different from the reality.

We could each trot out what cost us and where we gained income from various things etc. But have we as yet had the vast majority of the McGinn money? Was it paid in 2 or 3 tranches etc.? I do think we got a number of bigger earners off the books and to date we are paying 10 instead of 16 previously. As well as this where we finish in the league can change what funds we gain at the end of the season too.

What I am really asking is how much is this your assumption, I know based on a number of things that have happened OR based on folk internally dropping this idea with some serious concern? Did we not set off with the budget before we knew that the McGinn money was coming our way?

It's all assumption mate. I've no idea about the current finances and nor should anyone other than those employed by the club to look after that side of things.

What I do know is that we've paid off Darren Jackson and Alan Stubbs very early into their contracts.
We also paid money to spring Brian Rice from Inverness.
We possibly paid money to get Oran.
We've assembled one of the biggest first team squads I can ever remember the club having.
Then we've ripped that to bits and let half of them go, several on mutual terminations against early contracts.
We have then added another ten players in albeit mostly on loan.
We've added a wage for Gus MacPherson, and a wage for Jimmy Nicholl.
And finally we've been spending on infrastructure like Ralston, the new Astro pitch etc....

We're in a bigger league where the "prize money" even for finishing last is significantly higher than we got for winning the Championship but it's fair to assume the players are all on much higher wages than they were when we were down a league.

Some of the above will have been budgeted for but all the mess left behind by Stubbsgate will certainly have put a hole in that budget I think.

Quite how big a hole remains to be seen and we won't know for another 11 months when the accounts are published.

 

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3 hours ago, Lord Pityme said:

The Tractor Boys?

not heard the vote result yet, cold they be stalling to perhaps have a 'People's Vote' to help pay for big Duckie's left thigh till the end of the season?

Could be pretty in pink.

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39 minutes ago, div said:

We also paid money to spring Brian Rice from Inverness.

I would hope to f**k that we received either an equal amount for Rice from Hamilton, if not greater. If we’ve let him go cheaper than we bought him, then the board have seriously messed up here.

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3 minutes ago, Cornwall_Saint said:

I would hope to f**k that we received either an equal amount for Rice from Hamilton, if not greater. If we’ve let him go cheaper than we bought him, then the board have seriously messed up here.

We now save a wage.  Jimmy N is there. 

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4 minutes ago, RussellV1 said:

 Grayskull = good guys

Snake Mountain = bad guys

Ibrox = Big Ugly Building and so is Grayskull 

BBC Weather girl warned rangers fans on way to Ibrox of an impending storm at Castle GraySkull. 

Grayskull is Ibrox. Confirmed by BBC so its a fact 

Edited by East Lothian Saint

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