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1 minute ago, Doakes said:

Hodson has been good in most games recently? Erhahon was the shaky one against Kilmarnock.... 

Hodson seems to get more shit than others because he used to play for that lot

So did Lewis Morgan and Kenny MacLean.

Gus as well.

There is more to it than him just being a Rangers player.

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49 minutes ago, waldorf34 said:

No better than Cammy McPherson, just another player getting very good wage and accommodation, but no better than what we have,be off again in the summer .

We have boys from the academy who have put in 12 years at the club,don't get a proper chance in the first team then we drop them off the planet .BUT if they are really good early on they get punted out the door to balance the books and replaced by some has been or carpetbaggers.

We have lost our way,this was a club that gave youth a genuine chance .

I assume you have watched BL playing for his various clubs?  Typical response to judge a young player before he has taken his jacket off and kicked a ball. Surely, like all new arrivals, he deserves to be judged if selected and played? Is he better than CMcP? I haven't a scooby and neither do you I would wager.

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Did not say that,just another loan player passing through

How do you know he's no better than Cammy Macpherson or the other players we already have? He hasn't even played a game for us yet.

 

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43 minutes ago, shull said:
47 minutes ago, JM1 said:

emoji23.pngRaging that a guy isn't good enough days before he's even played a game for us.

He isn't raging and he didn't say Brad wasn't good enough. 

Keep up Shull; JMI is raging  .............. about Waldorf34 .......... who most definitely IS implying that..... Lyons isn't good enough

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Just now, JM1 said:
5 minutes ago, waldorf34 said:
Did not say that,just another loan player passing through

How do you know he's no better than Cammy Macpherson? He hasn't even played a game for us yet.

Message to  Waldorf   ~And accounts from the training ground would shout how wrong you are . . . Lyons has real energy and ability - I like MacPherson and think he will get his chance at some point too....

Other youths who have had a chance in recent months are Breadner, and Jaimieson...

Who else is ready for the step up and not getting a chance? (Glover?)

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1 hour ago, waldorf34 said:

No better than Cammy McPherson, just another player getting very good wage and accommodation, but no better than what we have,be off again in the summer .

We have boys from the academy who have put in 12 years at the club,don't get a proper chance in the first team then we drop them off the planet .BUT if they are really good early on they get punted out the door to balance the books and replaced by some has been or carpetbaggers.

We have lost our way,this was a club that gave youth a genuine chance .

What's the bets this is based on absolutely nothing? :rolleyes:

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3 minutes ago, Sweeper07 said:

Message to  Waldorf   ~And accounts from the training ground would shout how wrong you are . . . Lyons has real energy and ability - I like MacPherson and think he will get his chance at some point too....

Other youths who have had a chance in recent months are Breadner, and Jaimieson...

Who else is ready for the step up and not getting a chance? (Glover?)

Young players like McPherson should be played before these guys and the other youngsters should get more than bit parts, or is the Holy Grail the Premier League  at all costs.

Do we really want to be Hamilton ,hanging on every year. 

We are repeatingly selling our best assets instead of building a team .

 

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1 minute ago, waldorf34 said:

Young players like McPherson should be played before these guys and the other youngsters should get more than bit parts, or is the Holy Grail the Premier League  at all costs.

Do we really want to be Hamilton ,hanging on every year. 

We are repeatingly selling our best assets instead of building a team .

 

Would you take Morgan back on loan ?

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12 minutes ago, jaybee said:

Keep up Shull; JMI is raging  .............. about Waldorf34 .......... who most definitely IS implying that..... Lyons isn't good enough

Read it again. You're completely wrong. 

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5 minutes ago, waldorf34 said:

Young players like McPherson should be played before these guys and the other youngsters should get more than bit parts, or is the Holy Grail the Premier League  at all costs.

Do we really want to be Hamilton ,hanging on every year. 

We are repeatingly selling our best assets instead of building a team .

 

I can't think of one player we have sold recently to a bigger club that we'd have been able to hold onto for more than a year (18 months for Mccalister possibly but not sure)  if we had rejected the incoming bid. 

Can you name these 'best assets' that we could have build a team around? 

Edited by bazil85

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Oran Kearney has shown he has a good understanding of the quality required for this league. Unlike the previous manager. He knows Lyons well, and Blackburn Rovers having looked at him for half a season consider him good enough for them. I think this is going to be a very strong signing indeed!

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Young players like McPherson should be played before these guys and the other youngsters should get more than bit parts, or is the Holy Grail the Premier League  at all costs.
Do we really want to be Hamilton ,hanging on every year. 
We are repeatingly selling our best assets instead of building a team .
 

What planet are you from?

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2 minutes ago, waldorf34 said:

1. Young players like McPherson should be played before these guys and the other youngsters should get more than bit parts, or is the Holy Grail the Premier League  at all costs.

2. Do we really want to be Hamilton ,hanging on every year. 

3. We are repeatingly selling our best assets instead of building a team .

 

1. The manager has to pick what he believes to be the best team he has at his disposal. Otherwise we are playing at being a football club or unless he is giving guys a chance against lower quality opposition to bring them up to the speed of the first team.

2. No we want to be far better than Hamilton and chances are they will hang on every year until they no longer manage it. I think 2019 might be that year for them. It happened to us previously too after playing relegation battles for a number of years.

3. They won't be our best assets if they don't reach maturity and that means fighting their way into the 1st team to build up enough experience to merit real value...

We have sold players who were valuable but who did not want to stay - so what else could we do? Look at for example McLean: He saw the bright lights and left us during a January window when he was one of our best players. Later he did the same to Aberdeen.

Surviving at the top level is our primary goal. Doing better than this is our aim.... bringing through our own players is important, as is bringing in better players and prospects from wherever we can...

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2 minutes ago, shull said:
16 minutes ago, jaybee said:

Keep up Shull; JMI is raging  .............. about Waldorf34 .......... who most definitely IS implying that..... Lyons isn't good enough

Read it again. You're completely wrong. 

Perhaps you should read both posts again ................... Waldorf's implication is quite clearly that Lyons is no better than the young players that we already have ................ ergo not good enough.  And this from someone who is unlikely to have actually seen him play, yes he is only a six month loan but look at what Adam Hamill on a three month loan did for us.  

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It's fairly obvious we should be playing the best players available regardless of whether they're on loan, permanent signings and/or have come through our youth system.

I do like Cammy Macpherson and think he will play a big role in keeping us up. If OK thinks Lyons is better and they're both competing for the same position then he should pick Lyons.

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