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42 minutes ago, Lord Pityme said:

Those experts might be on here? But they certainly arent at the club!

plenty on here, your truly included question the wisdom, or lack therof in offering a contract to a player, released by his club because of his chronic medical condition. And in a matter of months it has come back to bite the club on its arse! Yet again the club performs an act of self harm in the media, at a time when it is desperately trying to recruit players.

yip one place we can be sure the experts arent is SMP or Ralston.

btw.... do we chalk this one up as one of Gus's Super Signings?

You, of course, are aware of the exact details of the contract, as you seem to know everything else about the inner workings of the club! 😉

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Feel sorry for the guy but if we're looking at it from a St Mirren point of view, we helped him out when we gave him a contract, Aberdeen sold us player who was injury prone and wanted rid.  The reaction from the boy himself tells you everything....St Mirren took a chance on him but it didn't work, it's a real shame and it's no-one's fault.

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For my 2p worth, Greig has MESH surgery to fix his hernia while at the Dons.
It wasn't a success and afaik, he hasn't had an other one to try and fixed it.
I know this because my wife and him shared some e-mails between themselves about MESH failures.
He was to meet my wife at the Scottish Parliament for a chronic pain committee meeting, but the health minister cancelled her attendance, so Greig decided not to attend.
In my opinion, MESH surgery in any part of the body is a high risk due to the high level of failures, and is almost impossible to fix 2nd time round.
Greg is taking legal advice against the clinic that put the MESH in and I certainly hope it is successful.

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6 hours ago, Lord Pityme said:

Not a great message to prospective signings.... "if you get a serious injury, you're on your own".

of all the money this board have spaffed away, they couldn't be arsed to look after one of their own. Poor form.

He didn't GET a serious injury, he was injured previously at another club, and that's an occupational hazard with footballers.  Saints had nothing to do with his injury, so bear no responsibility other thanit's general ongoing care and attention .  Still, let's have a go at the club, eh?

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3 minutes ago, saint in exile said:

He didn't GET a serious injury, he was injured previously at another club, and that's an occupational hazard with footballers.  Saints had nothing to do with his injury, so bear no responsibility other thanit's general ongoing care and attention .  Still, let's have a go at the club, eh?

I agree with this. ITK due to his Caley pal in here...…………. he obviously sides with Tansey but fact is we got him with this condition. W3e should have clauses that cover us, and the way it looks- we do...…………..

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I it really an injury or is a medical condition following a surgical procedure over 2 years ago.  If so it's unlikely that any policy taken out when he signed would cover this. This would be covered if he had a personal policy which pre-dated any injury.

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Just now, alanb said:

Given the spin just put across on the STV news, no comment from the club is a poor defence.
Tansey going public requires a response.
As it stands making the club looking very poor.

Aye. It's clear they were trying to put a very negative stance on what is a terrible situation for Tansey.

Isn't it amazing how you can change the story by omission?

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17 minutes ago, linwood buddie said:

It looks  like the STV story has been taken from the post that Greg put on Twitter yesterday.More lazy journalism me thinks.

But they ?forgot? to add that Greg held no malice to the club and understood the situation.

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14 hours ago, Bud the Baker said:

Feel sorry for the guy but I'm in the camp that says the club shouldn't be paying for any further treatment.

Best wishes Greg!

I wonder what the cost of the op would have been compared to whatever pay off he got for the club since he still had 1 year to go.

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Less than two months into his time in Paisley, the osteomyelitis had returned and he was struggling to walk again. Because his condition was pre-existing, St Mirren were under no obligation to pay for the required surgery. They didn’t, leaving Tansey to foot the bill himself.

Since that second operation in May, Tansey did not train with the team. He did not meet Jim Goodwin, who took over as manager in the summer. His time has been spent conducting a pre-season of his own at home in Liverpool, readying himself for his next opportunity.

“St Mirren didn’t need me back and told me to follow what the surgeon told me. I’ve got no ill will towards St Mirren. I understand they need to cut their cloth accordingly; it’s just unfortunate the way it happened. But it made my position untenable.

“There were rumours going round about me fighting with lads in the changing room, which was wrong. You couldn’t ask for a nicer group of lads – they welcomed me from day one.

“After the way it went on I just didn’t feel right carrying on. I would rather not be wasting their time and money as I wasn’t 100 per cent into it. I’m not a mercenary; I don’t want to be sitting about picking up a wage for the next 12 months.”

A severance was finally reached last weekend. The opening Saturday of the season and Tansey was without a club, watching the start of the new campaign from afar.

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4 hours ago, Tommy said:

I wonder what the cost of the op would have been compared to whatever pay off he got for the club since he still had 1 year to go.

Depends what the terms of his contract were.

I was talking to an employee of another club yesterday regarding our situation, and he told me that a player from his club, with a previous serious injury record, was transferred to another club.

The contract he was offered was a fairly low basic salary, but with a large bonus each time he played, plus win bonuses.

As it turns out, the player is quids in as he hasn't had a reoccurrence of his injury and has been playing pretty regularly.

Seems that this type of contract is common place nowadays.

 

Edited by FTOF

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I wonder what the cost of the op would have been compared to whatever pay off he got for the club since he still had 1 year to go.
The cost of the op would've been a 5 figure sum. We'd also still have been paying him during the time of the op and his rehab with no guarantee of his recovery being enough for him to play again.

He has a condition, probably as a result of his previous operation. I expect he will seek compensation for this and as such any insurer would tell the club not to be involved in further procedures.
We could've still paid him while he funded the treatment however probably better for him to get the lump sum pay off?

A few "probablys" in there before anyone else notes it.

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31 minutes ago, TPAFKATS said:

The cost of the op would've been a 5 figure sum. We'd also still have been paying him during the time of the op and his rehab with no guarantee of his recovery being enough for him to play again.

He has a condition, probably as a result of his previous operation. I expect he will seek compensation for this and as such any insurer would tell the club not to be involved in further procedures.
We could've still paid him while he funded the treatment however probably better for him to get the lump sum pay off?

A few "probablys" in there before anyone else notes it.

Not quite..!

any insurer will say "yip! We can insure you for that, and the premium will be £........"

one of my dogs got a leg injury, so the insurer just upped the premium by a fiver a month to manage their risk. It would appear the club didnt insure Tansey, and perhaps don't  routinely do that for any player? Be silly not to do it if they re-sign McAllister!

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14 minutes ago, Lord Pityme said:

Not quite..!

any insurer will say "yip! We can insure you for that, and the premium will be £........"

one of my dogs got a leg injury, so the insurer just upped the premium by a fiver a month to manage their risk. It would appear the club didnt insure Tansey, and perhaps don't  routinely do that for any player? Be silly not to do it if they re-sign McAllister!

I think in this day and age at a club at our level the onus will be on the players to have adequate medical insurance. Doubt many clubs on our sort of budget will have group coverage for a squad of 20+ players. 

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1 hour ago, Lord Pityme said:

Not quite..!

any insurer will say "yip! We can insure you for that, and the premium will be £........"

one of my dogs got a leg injury, so the insurer just upped the premium by a fiver a month to manage their risk. It would appear the club didnt insure Tansey, and perhaps don't  routinely do that for any player? Be silly not to do it if they re-sign McAllister!

Might not have to worry about that. :unsure:

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26 minutes ago, Gosport Buddie said:

Greg tweeted today that he's "fit and raring to go". When questioned about this , he said he'd had the op in June. Seems strange that it took so long to release him.

If that's the case, he'll have no problem finding another club.  Good luck for your future.

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