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56 minutes ago, munoz said:

We won't accept £20-30k in January,  it would be pointless.  Last season he was the difference between Premiership football or dropping down to the Championship.  In the news reports it says he wants to get things sorted by January so he can concentrate on keeping us up again.  If he does leave in January,  I reckon it will take a similar offer to what Qarabags rumoured one was.

I agree it wouldnt make sense to take a low offer just because he might sign a pca with another club, but This board took a pittance when Jason Naismith signed a pca with Ross County!

and regardless of what he says he'd like re the English Championship, if the only offer he gets is from Sevco, thats where he will go to boost his wages and opportunities. And we know they will pay as little as they can get away with!

think we would need to hope on getting him back on loan till the summer in that case?

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21 hours ago, Isle Of Bute Saint said:

Putting away our personal feelings of the old firm they pay the biggest salary in Scotland. Exposure into a bigger market with European football guaranteed every season. Old firm clubs are known through out the world and further afield.  We may not like it but I can understand why he would be interested.  

One of the Old Firm clubs is better known for cheating at football, not paying taxes like other clubs do, living away beyond its means and going bust... which meant the end of ALL football not just “guaranteed European football”.

There is notice of the new club, sevco, operating as “a going concern” which is a pretty big hint that it would not be a stable environment for any player still on an upward path (like Hladky), and to avoid like the plague.

20 hours ago, Sweeper07 said:

Agreed - and he has already spoke of the excitement of playing in front of the crowds at their stadiums...

I think he knows what he wants and they would be stupid to overlook someone as good as him.

Given that the Green bigots have extended their keeper's contract for 4 more years and that McGregor is in his twilight years at the Blue bigots, their need and financial issues means he would surely be a serious target for them.

As they did with Killie (Jones) and Dundee (Kamara) last time around, they will likely fix him up in January, be willing to wait till the summer, but possibly offer a token fee to get him in January.

Let's be honest, despite their precarious financial position, they can offer to quadruple his wages and when McGregor retires they will save on their wage bill. They may even offload other keepers too. I suspect they will cash in on Morelos too, given that Defoe is scoring regularly and more often 1st choice t the moment...

You’re believing in the SMSM propaganda.

Yes, while insane “offers” can be made to play back-up whilst waiting for dead marks shoes to fill, I actually regard your post to be as absurd as the Shiite that foams from the mouths of online bigot forums.  All those ducks in a natural row....  :lol:

1.  QUADRUPLE Hladky’s wage.

2. Retire McGregor

3. Maybe offload the other keepers.

4.  Sell Morelos for umpteen £million (no doubt to a mega rich Chinese club - again).

Quackers!

My happy take on it is that, for a change, a player is exploiting an Ibrox clumpany’s propaganda machine in order to publicise his availability and up his price.

 

All power to his goalkeeping elbow!  :)

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Sounds like he or his agent are just trying to get some exposure. He'll obviously be gone by the end of the season at the latest,  so let's just enjoy his performances while he's still here. If anyone has earned a move, its him. 
True sir.

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4 hours ago, antrin said:

One of the Old Firm clubs is better known for cheating at football, not paying taxes like other clubs do, living away beyond its means and going bust... which meant the end of ALL football not just “guaranteed European football”.

There is notice of the new club, sevco, operating as “a going concern” which is a pretty big hint that it would not be a stable environment for any player still on an upward path (like Hladky), and to avoid like the plague.     You’re believing in the SMSM propaganda.

Yes, while insane “offers” can be made to play back-up whilst waiting for dead marks shoes to fill, I actually regard your post to be as absurd as the Shiite that foams from the mouths of online bigot forums.  All those ducks in a natural row....  :lol:

1.  QUADRUPLE Hladky’s wage.

2. Retire McGregor

3. Maybe offload the other keepers.

4.  Sell Morelos for umpteen £million (no doubt to a mega rich Chinese club - again).

Quackers!

My happy take on it is that, for a change, a player is exploiting an Ibrox clumpany’s propaganda machine in order to publicise his availability and up his price.

All power to his goalkeeping elbow!  :)

I don't think I am believing ALL the propoganda

1. Though we don't actually know Hladky's wages with us, our average is around £800 - £1000 per week - at the ugly sisters £4,000 a month is most likely at the lower end of their 1st team squad players weekly wage.

2. He won't go on forever - His 38th birthday is a couple of months away and although he is still performing, and contracted till May 2020, but no guarantee he will be re-signed - So IF they choose to they could have Hladky, who is at least as good, but younger and cheaper on the wage bill. It also means they can offer less to McGregor or let him go when his contract is up.

3. They have Foderingham (who has played 90 minutes for them this season and whose contract runs out next summer too), Andy Firth, Alnwick, McCrory, Hogarth and Kinnear - So can they not unload some of their 7 keepers and fit Hladky in like?

4. He has already scored 20 goals this season, often from the bench, and 30 last season. As a comparison Edouard has scored 12 this season and 23 last season and Tic paid over (an estimated) £9,000,000 . What makes you think Morelos will be worth less than say £10,000,000 if transferred and what makes you think that no one wants a proven goal scorer in every league - and many teams could afford him?

I am happy to hold a different view from you on this - the proof will be revealed most likely in January or next summer - but if it is not him, it could just as easily be Tavernier, or Kamara or Goldson etc. - any one of these could bring in over £4,000,000 and reduce or pay off debt.

I strongly dislike both the ugly sisters, but they are playing in a different league from us financially - even though one of them has a debt bill at the moment that would sink us, I don't think it will sink them...  Let's watch and see :cheers

 

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I don't think I am believing ALL the propoganda
1. Though we don't actually know Hladky's wages with us, our average is around £800 - £1000 per week - at the ugly sisters £4,000 a month is most likely at the lower end of their 1st team squad players weekly wage.
2. He won't go on forever - His 38th birthday is a couple of months away and although he is still performing, and contracted till May 2020, but no guarantee he will be re-signed - So IF they choose to they could have Hladky, who is at least as good, but younger and cheaper on the wage bill. It also means they can offer less to McGregor or let him go when his contract is up.
3. They have Foderingham (who has played 90 minutes for them this season and whose contract runs out next summer too), Andy Firth, Alnwick, McCrory, Hogarth and Kinnear - So can they not unload some of their 7 keepers and fit Hladky in like?
4. He has already scored 20 goals this season, often from the bench, and 30 last season. As a comparison Edouard has scored 12 this season and 23 last season and Tic paid over (an estimated) £9,000,000 . What makes you think Morelos will be worth less than say £10,000,000 if transferred and what makes you think that no one wants a proven goal scorer in every league - and many teams could afford him?
I am happy to hold a different view from you on this - the proof will be revealed most likely in January or next summer - but if it is not him, it could just as easily be Tavernier, or Kamara or Goldson etc. - any one of these could bring in over £4,000,000 and reduce or pay off debt.
I strongly dislike both the ugly sisters, but they are playing in a different league from us financially - even though one of them has a debt bill at the moment that would sink us, I don't think it will sink them...  Let's watch and see :cheers
 
Sounds like you love one of the ugly sisters

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2 minutes ago, delpierro said:

Sounds like you love one of the ugly sisters emoji848.png

It is clear that saying anything remotely interpreted as a positive about either of these teams draws that kind of accusation. I have only ever been inside their grounds on hospitality through business associates and as a player . . . not with either of them...

Are my logical arguments really saying anything untrue or unlikely?

I strongly dislike both - and would love them out of Scottish football. Then it would be fairer all round - they guzzle up the majority of the finances and it is no where near a level playing field, but until that happens we are stuck in this unfair reality...and the sectarian nonsence  😎

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1 hour ago, Sweeper07 said:

I don't think I am believing ALL the propoganda

ENOUGH TO MAKE ME WONDER IF YOU ALSO BELIEVE IN SANTA...

2. He won't go on forever - His 38th birthday is a couple of months away and although he is still performing, and contracted till May 2020....

HE’S A GOOD GOALIE AND FIT ENOUGH TO GO ON A LONG TIME.

4. He has already scored 20 goals this season, often from the bench, and 30 last season. As a comparison Edouard has scored 12 this season and 23 last season and Tic paid over (an estimated) £9,000,000 . What makes you think Morelos will be worth less than say £10,000,000 if transferred and what makes you think that no one wants a proven goal scorer in every league - and many teams could afford him?

IF ANY CLUB OFFERED £5m for MORELOS THEY’D SELL HIM NOW.

I am happy to hold a different view from you on this - the proof will be revealed most likely in January or next summer - but if it is not him, it could just as easily be Tavernier, or Kamara or Goldson etc. - any one of these could bring in over £4,000,000 and reduce or pay off debt.

SIMILARLY THESE ARE FANTASTICALLY IMAGINED PRICES FOR MODERATE PLAYERS IN AN UTTERLY UNGLAMOROUS LEAGUE.

AGAIN, MORE TO THE POINT, SEVCO IS A KNOWN FINANCIAL BASKET CASE.  IT HAS BEEN LOSING MILLIONS EVERY YEAR.  NO CLUB WILL NEED TO PAY AN IMAGINED ASKING PRICE FOR ANY OF THE ABOVE PLAYERS.

IT IS PREDICTED TO BE £11m IN THE RED BEFORE NEXT SEASON STARTS.

  I strongly dislike both the ugly sisters, but they are playing in a different league from us financially - ONE OF THEM IS CHEATING.    - even though one of them has a debt bill at the moment that would sink us, I don't think it will sink them...  Let's watch and see :cheers

I HAVE BEEN WATCHING FOR SOME TIME.  I HAVE A REASONABLE SENSE OF THE REALITY.

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43 minutes ago, Sweeper07 said:

It is clear that saying anything remotely interpreted as a positive about either of these teams draws that kind of accusation. I have only ever been inside their grounds on hospitality through business associates and as a player . . . not with either of them...

Are my logical arguments really saying anything untrue or unlikely?

I strongly dislike both - and would love them out of Scottish football. Then it would be fairer all round - they guzzle up the majority of the finances and it is no where near a level playing field, but until that happens we are stuck in this unfair reality...and the sectarian nonsence  😎

Would love to know who you played for.

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4 hours ago, antrin said:

I HAVE BEEN WATCHING FOR SOME TIME.  I HAVE A REASONABLE SENSE OF THE REALITY.

So how much are the players at the other ugly sister worth and getting paid then?

3 hours ago, antrin said:

Haw, sweeper....!?  You’re probably already well intae aw this...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/nov/06/brazil-flat-earth-conference-terra-plana    but, if not - enjoy!  :whistle

I think your bias is unbalanced and your views on me are wrong, but as I said Let's watch and see :cheers

Science and video evidence proves the earth is not flat... those who disagree are well.... :bag

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4 hours ago, Sweeper07 said:

So how much are the players at the other ugly sister worth and getting paid then?

I think your bias is unbalanced and your views on me are wrong, but as I said Let's watch and see :cheers

Science and video evidence proves the earth is not flat... those who disagree are well.... :bag

The average wage is the Scottish premiership is about £3.5k a week. I would guess you are perhaps looking at Aberdeen, Hibs and Hearts paying that money to theirbetter players, and Rangers and Celtic being quite a bit higher than that while St Mirren, Hamilton, Ross County, Livingston etc on £1k a week or thereabouts.

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9 hours ago, Dibbles old paperboy said:

The average wage is the Scottish premiership is about £3.5k a week. I would guess you are perhaps looking at Aberdeen, Hibs and Hearts paying that money to theirbetter players, and Rangers and Celtic being quite a bit higher than that while St Mirren, Hamilton, Ross County, Livingston etc on £1k a week or thereabouts.

So that agrees with my earlier arguments then - correct ?  :cheers

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53 minutes ago, MenstrieSaint said:

Can see this leading to a January transfer , hoping his agent is putting this about to generate more interest and hopefully a decent transfer fee .

IT is not just his agent that is putting this about  - Tony is too . . . wonder why he would do that "he is definitely staying till the summer"  mm

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