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I am not here to say 'I told you so', but I knew from the start that Vaclav would not get the BIG move that many on here thought he would. 

He did fantastically well in his time with us and fully deserves his (no doubt) bigger salary. 

As for a much bigger club coming in for him......... I said from the beginning that was never going to happen. 

Good luck though Vaclav, you deserve the financial security this move will likely bring. You certainly done us a turn. 

Given the salary caps down South I doubt this will be the big payday many think. He might be on better money but if he is it won't be much bigger.

 

The 1.5m squad max covers wages, signing on fees, agents fees and image rights and most "experts " seem to think in will equate to about 1000-1200pw.

 

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7 minutes ago, Ayrshire Saints said:

Given the salary caps down South I doubt this will be the big payday many think. He might be on better money but if he is it won't be much bigger.

 

The 1.5m squad max covers wages, signing on fees, agents fees and image rights and most "experts " seem to think in will equate to about 1000-1200pw.

 

It doesn't cover image rights. That's an independent issue. Though I doubt it will generate a lot of cash unless he sets the heather on fire. He'll be on around the 2 grand a week mark. Far more than he was likely to be getting with us.

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I thought he would have got a club at a higher level, but maybe 1 reason it didn't happen was due to his height.

Most clubs tend to want tall keepers and he must have been 1 of the smallish in height in our league.

As for his wages, signing on fee, club car, club house, image right   :rolleyes:   i don't know what he will get and either does anybody else on here   :lol:

 

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League 2 clubs slary cap is 1.5 mill per season and covers the following (which came directly from EFL) website.                 

When calculating total salary spending, the ‘cap’ includes:

  • Basic Wages;

  • Taxes;

  • Bonuses;

  • Image rights;

  • Agents’ fees and;

  • Other fees and expenses paid directly or indirectly to all registered players.

        

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58 minutes ago, Tommy said:

I thought he would have got a club at a higher level, but maybe 1 reason it didn't happen was due to his height.

Most clubs tend to want tall keepers and he must have been 1 of the smallish in height in our league.

As for his wages, signing on fee, club car, club house, image right   :rolleyes:   i don't know what he will get and either does anybody else on here   :lol:

 

Eh? He’s 6ft 3. He’s hardly a short arse. 

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1 hour ago, Ayrshire Saints said:

Given the salary caps down South I doubt this will be the big payday many think. He might be on better money but if he is it won't be much bigger.

 

The 1.5m squad max covers wages, signing on fees, agents fees and image rights and most "experts " seem to think in will equate to about 1000-1200pw.

 

If he is on bigger money then good luck to him, if he isn't then it just proves my point even more that he isn't as highly rated as some/majority of our fans may have thought

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6 minutes ago, Prague Buddie said:

If he is on bigger money then good luck to him, if he isn't then it just proves my point even more that he isn't as highly rated as some/majority of our fans may have thought

For someone who “doesn’t want to say I told you so” you seem to be bumping your gums a lot about what you told us. 
I wouldn’t mind, but the prospect of  Hladky signing for Salford doesn’t prove a single thing you said. 

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20 minutes ago, TPAFKA Jersey 2 said:

For someone who “doesn’t want to say I told you so” you seem to be bumping your gums a lot about what you told us. 
I wouldn’t mind, but the prospect of  Hladky signing for Salford doesn’t prove a single thing you said. 

My point all along was that he was 'one' easily replaceable (Alnwick) and 'two' not as good or highly rated as most Buddies thought (Hence why he didn't get that BIG move). 

I said it before and I will say it again. I saw him play for years before he joined us and he was bang average. 

I would say my point has been proven. Unless you can give me some evidence to prove otherwise???? 

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My point all along was that he was 'one' easily replaceable (Alnwick) and 'two' not as good or highly rated as most Buddies thought (Hence why he didn't get that BIG move). 
I said it before and I will say it again. I saw him play for years before he joined us and he was bang average. 
I would say my point has been proven. Unless you can give me some evidence to prove otherwise???? 
The "proof" is always going to be subjective.

I saw him in almost every home game he played and a number of away games.

I still say that on the strength of what I witnessed, he was one of the most talented keepers I've seen play for Saints.

Best distribution by a mile.

Reliable. Very few unforced errors.

I wish him well at his new club.
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Just now, BuddieinEK said:

The "proof" is always going to be subjective.

I saw him in almost every home game he played and a number of away games.

I still say that on the strength of what I witnessed, he was one of the most talented keepers I've seen play for Saints.

Best distribution by a mile.

Reliable. Very few unforced errors.

I wish him well at his new club.

Absolutely,  I agree with everything you say about playing for us.  He was phenomenal. 

But, the times I saw him play in the 5 or 6 years previous was nothing special. 

So based on that, the year and a bit great form for us didn't tempt a BIG club to make an offer,as I predicted. 

I do agree with you though, he was superb for us. 

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19 minutes ago, Prague Buddie said:

My point all along was that he was 'one' easily replaceable (Alnwick) and 'two' not as good or highly rated as most Buddies thought (Hence why he didn't get that BIG move). 

I said it before and I will say it again. I saw him play for years before he joined us and he was bang average. 

I would say my point has been proven. Unless you can give me some evidence to prove otherwise???? 

Yes all of that but you don’t want to say I told you so do you?

I’ll tell you when you can say I told you so. When Vaclav has hung up his gloves and hasn’t aspired to anything higher than us. 
Your opinion of him is based on his time as a bit part player for Slovan Liberec (I’m still unconvinced by how much of him you saw, but will have to take your word for that) and his time with us where you have just described him as “phenomenal”. 
So I’m still struggling to understand your view of him being nothing special. 

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Just now, TPAFKA Jersey 2 said:

Yes all of that but you don’t want to say I told you so do you?

I’ll tell you when you can say I told you so. When Vaclav has hung up his gloves and hasn’t aspired to anything higher than us. 
Your opinion of him is based on his time as a bit part player for Slovan Liberec (I’m still unconvinced by how much of him you saw, but will have to take your word for that) and his time with us where you have just described him as “phenomenal”. 
So I’m still struggling to understand your view of him being nothing special. 

I will happily give you my phone number and we can compare our knowledge of Czech football and Hladky's career before he joined us

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5 minutes ago, TPAFKA Jersey 2 said:

Yes all of that but you don’t want to say I told you so do you?

I’ll tell you when you can say I told you so. When Vaclav has hung up his gloves and hasn’t aspired to anything higher than us. 
Your opinion of him is based on his time as a bit part player for Slovan Liberec (I’m still unconvinced by how much of him you saw, but will have to take your word for that) and his time with us where you have just described him as “phenomenal”. 
So I’m still struggling to understand your view of him being nothing special

It seems a few BIG clubs share that view

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7 minutes ago, TPAFKA Jersey 2 said:

Yes all of that but you don’t want to say I told you so do you?

I’ll tell you when you can say I told you so. When Vaclav has hung up his gloves and hasn’t aspired to anything higher than us. 
Your opinion of him is based on his time as a bit part player for Slovan Liberec (I’m still unconvinced by how much of him you saw, but will have to take your word for that) and his time with us where you have just described him as “phenomenal”. 
So I’m still struggling to understand your view of him being nothing special. 

In all seriousness and slanging matches aside, I just believe you and the majority of our fans are over-rating him based on only seeing him for just over a year. 

Yes, he had an outstanding time with us, but I just cannot forget him failing to hold on to the number one spot at every opportunity he was given at Liberec. 

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In all seriousness and slanging matches aside, I just believe you and the majority of our fans are over-rating him based on only seeing him for just over a year. 
Yes, he had an outstanding time with us, but I just cannot forget him failing to hold on to the number one spot at every opportunity he was given at Liberec. 
My opinion is not based on how long I watched him play... Solely on how I saw him perform consistently during that time.
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On 6/1/2020 at 11:10 AM, bazil85 said:

It was a Prague quote, he had claimed he hadn't called him average so I showed that he had.  As for the rest of your post, I'm talking about the view of Hladky now. He's a superb goalkeeper and has done enough over the last season and a half to merit his reputation. At no time have I or anyone else said that will guarantee to play-out over the remainder of his career. He might do but it's nothing I would see benefit in make a prediction on. 

Prague made three points

- Not as good as Sammy 

- Only a decent (average) player

- not difficult to replace

He concluded that over the last five odd seasons. My view is 

- better than Sammy 

- A fantastic player 

- Very difficult to replace

I base that over his time at St Mirren where he has hardly missed a game, which I think makes far more sense than using his former club where he never got much of a chance to hold down a first team spot. You and Prague don't need to agree with my conclusion and how I've arrived at it (most do on this post) but you'll not change it. I don't intend to change your views either, that him bench-warming is a great parameter for how good he is. I'm only pointing out why I disagree with it. 

He got that right, you, and not for the first time, got that wrong. 

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This thread......................interesting reading.

@Prague Buddie gives an opinion, based on actually watching him and gets slaughtered.

Many of the views are subjective but the fact of the matter is he's now at a team so far down I have no idea what other teams he will be playing against. ( I could Google but don't give a feck)

@antrin does provide some sanity in his view and support of @Prague Buddie, refreshing.

Anyhow, have a good read, well worth 15 minutes of your time if you go back 5-10 pages. 

 

 

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