Wendy Saintss Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 I’ve watched the incident a few times myself now. Initially I agreed with HSS but the more I watch it, I’ve changed my mind. To me, Lyons is anticipating the obstruction which is why is starts to fly into the defender before contact is made. I think this is a natural split second reaction. The defender makes no attempt for the ball. So, for me, it’s not a dive and a foul to Saints for obstruction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovestlegend Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 At the time I thought it was a shocker but having seen the footage I can see why the ref has given it. Brad throws himself against the defender when there was no need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santaponsasaint Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 Specsavers will be busy tomorrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddies1877 Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 Show me where I said contact was made? Agree with that but Brad goes down before there is any contact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrappy coco Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 It's incredible how so many see the incident so differently, for me the Alloa defender clearly catches Brad's left foot with his right, they then collide (obstruction), a free kick to St Mirren,. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Monkey Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 3 hours ago, HSS said: I've just watched it again in case I have it wrong.There's no contact until Brad collided with the defender. It's a really close one and I've watched it about a dozen times now.There is no foul committed by the defender. Yes there is The defender is running backwards. He stops, then moves to his right to check Lyons' run. It's a foul every day of the week. I hope we appeal it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Ricky Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Wendy Saintss said: I’ve watched the incident a few times myself now. Initially I agreed with HSS but the more I watch it, I’ve changed my mind. To me, Lyons is anticipating the obstruction which is why is starts to fly into the defender before contact is made. I think this is a natural split second reaction. The defender makes no attempt for the ball. So, for me, it’s not a dive and a foul to Saints for obstruction. Difficult one but ultimately I too go with a (very soft )foul for obstruction by Graham. Hands in the air doesn't remove your body from obstructing Lyons. Did Lyons dive or move to avoid a potentially damaging collision? I go with the latter but tough for the ref. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlucifer Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 I don't think it was a dive and I'm certain we could appeal but I think it would fall on deaf ears at the SFA as they are circling the wagons with all the complaints about refs at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendy Saintss Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 Difficult one but ultimately I too go with a (very soft )foul for obstruction by Graham. Hands in the air doesn't remove your body from obstructing Lyons. Did Lyons dive or move to avoid a potentially damaging collision? I go with the latter but tough for the ref.Lyons is defo jumping in the air before he reaches the defender.But, for me, this is a natural split second reaction to an impending collision.The ref got it wrong IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isle Of Bute Saint Posted January 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, Wendy Saintss said: Lyons is defo jumping in the air before he reaches the defender. But, for me, this is a natural split second reaction to an impending collision. The ref got it wrong IMO. Spot on the defender is rightly trying to break play defender decision. For me obstruction. What is annoying the ref called it wrong which could be a game changer. With the ref in full view is unacceptable. Not saying the ref is trying to cheat us. It was a poor decision that should be appealed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Pityme Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 4 hours ago, buddies1877 said: Can clearly see in slow mo reply If you watch the Alloa defender left shoulder is furthest forward as he faces up Lyons as they get closer he moves his right side into Lyons trying to obstruct him. Really? what i, and i am sure anyone trying at least to be objective is the Alloa player simply standing his ground, not moving towards Lyons. And then Lyons running into him, them throwing himself in the air. It looks even more of a dive in slo-mo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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pod Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 11 minutes ago, Balmullo Bud said: Are you trying to say, he should visit Specsavers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Ricky Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 8 minutes ago, cockles1987 said: Really, you really can't see the shoulder never mind his right foot step forward. Of course you wouldn't Are you off the painkillers yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Ricky Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 1 minute ago, cockles1987 said: Yip, declared medically fit for work. You should get a medical and post the results A1 Dear boy. A1. Wake up and move on. You're out of your depth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ged62 Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 No point appealing it was a dive he clearly throws himself in front of the Alloa player in anticipation of getting tackled hate to say it but the referee got it right on this one. Right it’s time you admitted you’re not a St mirren fan, we knew it all along anyway. [emoji6] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 5 minutes ago, ged62 said: Right it’s time you admitted you’re not a St mirren fan, we knew it all along anyway. I am positive he is. Why do you think he isn't a St Mirren fan ? Give me as many examples as you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ged62 Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 I am positive he is. Why do you think he isn't a St Mirren fan ? Give me as many examples as you want. Every post he makes leads me to believe he’s not [emoji6] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ged62 Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 I said to my son at the game I thought it was a foul for us, I’ve watched it a few times & I still believe it was a foul for us. Again a referee out of his depth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 10 minutes ago, ged62 said: Every post he makes leads me to believe he’s not Give me one example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Ricky Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 8 minutes ago, ged62 said: I said to my son at the game I thought it was a foul for us, I’ve watched it a few times & I still believe it was a foul for us. Again a referee out of his depth. Exactly the same with us Ged but refs only get a split second to decide and see the incident from one angle only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 9 minutes ago, ged62 said: I said to my son at the game I thought it was a foul for us, I’ve watched it a few times & I still believe it was a foul for us. Again a referee out of his depth. What if it was a dive and you said it was a dive. Would that make you a non St Mirren fan ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddies1877 Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 What if it was a dive and you said it was a dive. Would that make you a non St Mirren fan ? You have really got to be the most boring c**t on this site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 (edited) I think it could be overturned. Lyons is going down as the Alloa player has stepped in to his path to obstruct him and the collision is coming and he's going to take a sore one if just steams straight in to the boy. On a slow motion replay you lose the reality of the situation happening at high speed. (Rugby has this problem with its VAR). The foul here is obstruction, not simulation. Should have been a Saints free kick. He should have been sent off for the tackle he got his first yellow for though! The boy will need to screw the nut! Edited January 20, 2019 by Kemp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 28 minutes ago, buddies1877 said: You have really got to be the most boring c**t on this site. He startit it. SPS believes it also. If a Saints player really dives and a Saints fan says it's a dive then that person aint a Saints fan. Thats what Ged and SPS are saying. It's boring but not my fault. And you're an abusive nonentity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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