oaksoft Posted February 2, 2019 Report Share Posted February 2, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, faraway saint said: From the link you supplied................."Most employment agencies and umbrella companies operate within the tax rules." From your previous post...................." People only use them when they know they are going to be caught by that legislation" Can you spot the difference? Yes, my first statement was about motives for using these companies by contractors. The second deals with the legality of umbrella companies. Two totally different things. You clutch whatever straws you feel you need to justify paying less tax than you should. Edited February 2, 2019 by oaksoft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted February 2, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2019 Just now, oaksoft said: You clutch whatever straws you feel you need to justify paying less tax than you should. Again, your assumption I'm trying to pay less tax is frankly insulting and fecking annoying. Now, go away before I get upset, ya fud! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted February 2, 2019 Report Share Posted February 2, 2019 Great Thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Ricky Posted February 2, 2019 Report Share Posted February 2, 2019 Just now, shull said: Great Thread But I suggest that you contact Charles Green on how best to proceed. Sevco and all that. Sound advice Mr Shull Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted February 2, 2019 Report Share Posted February 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, faraway saint said: Again, your assumption I'm trying to pay less tax is frankly insulting and fecking annoying. Now, go away before I get upset, ya fud! I love the smell of denial in the morning. So crisp. So fresh. Hope you enjoy the brand new car you are going to buy with the tax and NI you are planning to avoid paying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted February 2, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2019 Just now, oaksoft said: I love the smell of denial in the morning. So crisp. So fresh. Hope you enjoy the brand new car you are going to buy with the tax and NI you are planning to avoid paying. Let's get this straight ya cnut, where have I indicated I was trying to avoid paying tax? Show me or shut the feck up. You do love making a cnut of yourself, unable to take in what has been posted, preferring to focus on your own agenda. Really, do one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted February 2, 2019 Report Share Posted February 2, 2019 Washing Cars is cash work. No need to fret about HMRC. Just keep receipts for bucket, sponge and fecking chamois. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted February 2, 2019 Report Share Posted February 2, 2019 (edited) 19 minutes ago, faraway saint said: Let's get this straight ya cnut, where have I indicated I was trying to avoid paying tax? Show me or shut the feck up. You do love making a cnut of yourself, unable to take in what has been posted, preferring to focus on your own agenda. Really, do one. The entire raison d'etre for these companies was in response to freelancers coming under IR35 legislation. They are tax avoidance vehicles. You believe what you want though. French on a football forum eh? Edited February 2, 2019 by oaksoft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salmonbuddie Posted February 2, 2019 Report Share Posted February 2, 2019 The entire raison d'etre for these companies was in response to freelancers coming under IR35 legislation.You may have quoted French on a forum but you have no idea what "raison d'etre" means if you believe that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 14 hours ago, salmonbuddie said: You may have quoted French on a forum but you have no idea what "raison d'etre" means if you believe that. Congratulations on another fantastic contribution to the forum. Arguments succunctly laid out. Counter points challenged articulated. Oh wait........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salmonbuddie Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 Congratulations on another fantastic contribution to the forum. Arguments succunctly laid out. Counter points challenged articulated. Oh wait........There's neither anything to argue against nor any points made in your post to counter except the one I did counter. Apart from that, I bow to your superior intellect and debating skills, don't know what I was thinking...Don't wait too long, now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Ricky Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 Let FM earn a crust. He clearly lacks a circle if friends with knowledge in this area if he felt the need to ask for advice on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Optimistic Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, St.Ricky said: Let FM earn a crust. He clearly lacks a circle of friends. Fixed it for you Edited February 3, 2019 by Mr Optimistic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Ricky Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Mr Optimistic said: Fixed it for you That's harsh, very harsh on F M Edited February 3, 2019 by St.Ricky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted February 3, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 3 hours ago, Mr Optimistic said: Fixed it for you 1 hour ago, St.Ricky said: That's harsh, very harsh on F M 2 classic posts that required editing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Ricky Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 Just now, faraway saint said: 2 classic posts that required editing. Hope you make the right choices F Man. A bit of time working might help your mood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapsalmon Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 I've done work as a contractor through agencies which used umbrella companies. Far from being tax avoidance, some agencies use them as the only way to get paid for the contracting and most of the umbrella companies used make you go paye through them in order to comply with IR35. Then they take a fee for processing and pay the employers N.I contribution from the money the contractor earned. Its a sure fire way of not making as much as you should from a job with a decent rate. A lot of deductions to consider. The higher quote will probably be from an umbrella company processing on a self employed or Ltd basis and will require A UTR number. That method means you need to fill in a tax self assessment and if Ltd, the tax return for the company. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted February 3, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 1 minute ago, slapsalmon said: I've done work as a contractor through agencies which used umbrella companies. Far from being tax avoidance, some agencies use them as the only way to get paid for the contracting and most of the umbrella companies used make you go paye through them in order to comply with IR35. Then they take a fee for processing and pay the employers N.I contribution from the money the contractor earned. Its a sure fire way of not making as much as you should from a job with a decent rate. A lot of deductions to consider. The higher quote will probably be from an umbrella company processing on a self employed or Ltd basis and will require A UTR number. That method means you need to fill in a tax self assessment and if Ltd, the tax return for the company. Feck, here was me planning to be sitting in the Maldives posting shite on here next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapsalmon Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 1 minute ago, faraway saint said: Feck, here was me planning to be sitting in the Maldives posting shite on here next week. With those extra dozens of pounds you've swindled in employers N.I contributions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted February 3, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 4 minutes ago, slapsalmon said: With those extra dozens of pounds you've swindled in employers N.I contributions This, from your first post, is the exact reason I'm using one of these companies........................ "Far from being tax avoidance, some agencies use them as the only way to get paid for the contracting and most of the umbrella companies used make you go paye through them in order to comply with IR35." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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