wabuddy Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 15 hours ago, RossCSmfc said: Believe the situation will finally become clearer, albeit slightly, at 7pm. What day ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 We have lost around 100 Forumsters since yesterday. Still a healthy attendance today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddies1877 Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 Papers now reporting a severance deal has been agreed and part of that is that OK can’t talk about working under Gordon Scott if true why would you do that if nothing to hide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DXBBud Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, buddies1877 said: Papers now reporting a severance deal has been agreed and part of that is that OK can’t talk about working under Gordon Scott if true why would you do that if nothing to hide. Maybe just don't want a repeat of Stubbs raising his head every few months to have a bitch and a moan, and have included something financially advantageous in the deal to secure that, which would appear to be eminently sensible under the circumstances. I think we've had all the headlines we would rather not have for a while, or would that just be far too sensible for our club? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Monkey Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 5 minutes ago, buddies1877 said: Papers now reporting a severance deal has been agreed and part of that is that OK can’t talk about working under Gordon Scott if true why would you do that if nothing to hide. It's standard practice with those settlement agreements. It prevents people going to the papers with any old bollocks and generally makes it easier all round - just draws a nice, clean line in the sand that everyone knows can't be crossed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrhead saint Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 21 minutes ago, melmac said: A couple of recent tweets from Stewart Gilmour. Stewart Gilmour @StewartGilmour1 FollowFollow @StewartGilmour1 More Replying to @Carslaw98 A great number of fans would love Goody as Manager, however I would doubt if Jim would take the job if he has not the final say on all signings. 4:34 PM - 21 Jun 2019 from Benahavís, España Stewart Gilmour @StewartGilmour1 FollowFollow @StewartGilmour1 More Replying to @NJgallus @PaisleyHeritage and 3 others Certainly something not right behind the scenes, Jimmy Nichol leaving was a surprise, there definitely was something not right in the camp. Very disappointed as I thought @OranKearney was doing a great job for us. Obviously interference somewhere. 6:23 PM - 21 Jun 2019 from Benahavís, España He was never that quick to comment under his tenure ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Pityme Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 38 minutes ago, pod said: No confusion required. He wasnt sacked, i.e. They didnt kick him out and tear up his contract. But they did take an action which constitutes terminating employment with no justified cause. If there had been no move ti agree a settlement then Oran could have taken the club to court over an unlawful dismissal. in the end they agreed a settlement, which will see the contract mutually terminated, so no sacking and no resignation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Pityme Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 40 minutes ago, djchapsticks said: That's not how it works. You post stuff you need to back it up. You don't throw all sorts of unsubstantiated nonsense out and tell others to prove it's inaccurate. I am quoting club, Oran, Scott statements. Are you saying none of that is fact? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibbles old paperboy Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 Just now, barrhead saint said: He was never that quick to comment under his tenure ! He's also free to comment about the SFA, UEFA, FIFA, SPFL in a way he was never allowed as a club chairman and often does tweet on those topics. Was GLS not the great white hope to move the club on during the previous board's tenure? Looking to appoint in 4th manager in 13 months and 5th manager in 3 years under Scott. Cannae wait for the next Chairman's Update. What red herring will he throw in this time (my guess is working on the ticketing situation or repairing something at Ralston)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Bankhouse Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 1. OK and St Mirren had previously agreed he could commute. There was no issue there until GLS took issue with the set up in the last few days. 2. St Mirren have made zero signings to date. OK questioned this and the budget he was asked to work with this year. The point was made by OK that why would he risk moving his family if GLS won't fully support OK in the transfer market. 3. The Coleraine "story" was started by one individual, was picked up by the Scottish press who ran with it. There were elements of the Scottish press who deliberately ran with the story, knowing full well there was nothing to it, in an attempt to destabilise the club and player / manager relationships. Their motive being that they would either prefer Dundee Utd to be in the SPFL or they were pushing for their preference in manager to be at the club. You might, or might not be, surprised at how much of an old mates act goes on between journalists who are desperate for a story and out of work managers who are looking for a job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desperately Seeking Susans Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 In order to prevent the fans getting at each other's throats the club is way over due for some kind of statement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Pityme Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 15 minutes ago, buddies1877 said: Papers now reporting a severance deal has been agreed and part of that is that OK can’t talk about working under Gordon Scott if true why would you do that if nothing to hide. When like Oran you are holding all the cards you can go for the complete airing of dirty laundry in court, which will take time and could prevent you from taking on a job elsewhere. Or you can agree to a bland statement " we thank oran for his work, oran thanks the support for being there etc", on condition they pay you everything you are owed. better for both parties although they may not see it like that. And everyone moves on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougJamie Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, Lord Pityme said: When like Oran you are holding all the cards you can go for the complete airing of dirty laundry in court, which will take time and could prevent you from taking on a job elsewhere. Or you can agree to a bland statement " we thank oran for his work, oran thanks the support for being there etc", on condition they pay you everything you are owed. better for both parties although they may not see it like that. And everyone moves on. Did the above come from the left or right side of your arse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 7 minutes ago, Desperately Seeking Susans said: In order to prevent the fans getting at each other's throats the club is way over due for some kind of statement. Really disappointed with the lack if response. The club are letting the fans down. I realise there are legal implications but come on lets get this sorted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Pityme Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 5 minutes ago, DougJamie said: Did the above come from the left or right side of your arse It was a considered response, i get you struggle with those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Pityme Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, Ethan said: Really disappointed with the lack if response. The club are letting the fans down. I realise there are legal implications but come on lets get this sorted. Can only think someone??? Isnt happy with what the lawyers have agreed. Now who could that be who is a bit hard to get hold of at this time? Vegas is eight hours behind us, just an observation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddies1877 Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 Maybe just don't want a repeat of Stubbs raising his head every few months to have a bitch and a moan, and have included something financially advantageous in the deal to secure that, which would appear to be eminently sensible under the circumstances. I think we've had all the headlines we would rather not have for a while, or would that just be far too sensible for our club?This the same person that puts out false accusations against his own fans and can’t even put out another one to apologise for making a mistake.Now worried about OK making up lies or wanting to hide the truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibbles old paperboy Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 (edited) I'm guessing the club will say they've started receiving lots of quality applications already and not to worry by the end of the week 70 people will have applied. A few unlikely big names will be mentioned. Goodie will prefer to stick with Alloa and his secure part-time job outside football and continue working with a reliable chairman. In three weeks time we'll appoint Jim McIntyre and Billy Dodds... all of which will be announced in 4 weeks time on the official website. Edited June 25, 2019 by Dibbles old paperboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Pityme Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 51 minutes ago, melmac said: A couple of recent tweets from Stewart Gilmour. Stewart Gilmour @StewartGilmour1 FollowFollow @StewartGilmour1 More Replying to @Carslaw98 A great number of fans would love Goody as Manager, however I would doubt if Jim would take the job if he has not the final say on all signings. 4:34 PM - 21 Jun 2019 from Benahavís, España Stewart Gilmour @StewartGilmour1 FollowFollow @StewartGilmour1 More Replying to @NJgallus @PaisleyHeritage and 3 others Certainly something not right behind the scenes, Jimmy Nichol leaving was a surprise, there definitely was something not right in the camp. Very disappointed as I thought @OranKearney was doing a great job for us. Obviously interference somewhere. 6:23 PM - 21 Jun 2019 from Benahavís, España If he's still around Benahavis next week i might tap him up for a Sangria, and try and debunk some old myths. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrok Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 When like Oran you are holding all the cards you can go for the complete airing of dirty laundry in court, which will take time and could prevent you from taking on a job elsewhere. Or you can agree to a bland statement " we thank oran for his work, oran thanks the support for being there etc", on condition they pay you everything you are owed. better for both parties although they may not see it like that. And everyone moves on.It remains to be seen if Oran returns to his teaching job and former management position I think these things might tell us more about his thoughts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrok Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 And of course stillllllllllll nothing official hahahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Pityme Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, Jrok said: And of course stillllllllllll nothing official hahahaha The only thing official is he is the St Mirren manager! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Pityme Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 5 minutes ago, Jrok said: 32 minutes ago, Lord Pityme said: When like Oran you are holding all the cards you can go for the complete airing of dirty laundry in court, which will take time and could prevent you from taking on a job elsewhere. Or you can agree to a bland statement " we thank oran for his work, oran thanks the support for being there etc", on condition they pay you everything you are owed. better for both parties although they may not see it like that. And everyone moves on. It remains to be seen if Oran returns to his teaching job and former management position I think these things might tell us more about his thoughts. Imagine the dafties meltdiwn if he diesnt indeed jump straight into the Coleraine job? I mean... its mot like he needs the money now.... arf... arf... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLBud Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 That's not how it works. You post stuff you need to back it up. You don't throw all sorts of unsubstantiated nonsense out and tell others to prove it's inaccurate. ^^^^^^^^^100% thisHis MO is to throw out as much shite in his posts that it becomes too time consuming to keep fact checking it and in his mind that means it’s true.He’s like the forum’s own Trump. Another blowhard who makes shit up and posits theory as fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Pityme Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 1 minute ago, Slartibartfast said: I don't know it's not fact - and you don't know it is, that's the point I'm making. I haven't said anything is incorrect, though I have asked "how do you know". Would you care to answer that question? No? Didn't think so. I'm not suggesting anything to the contrary, why would I need to provide evidence? You seem to be getting mixed up between "quotes" and "reports". I'm not debating, so you're right there. Don't know why you are making a big thing of it though. Whether you are right or wrong is totally irrelevant to this. You are guessing, pure and simple. Show the "quotes" that prove that any meeting took place, that there were lawyers involved, that an agreement was reached or that there is compensation being paid. "Some guy in a newspaper said so" won't cut it - I still remember a front page headline from the 80s that said "World War Two Bomber Found On Moon", so you can't believe everything in the papers now, can you? I'll be content to know that I haven't been making anything up to push an agenda or to just get noticed. That's exactly why I said he was acting like a Jesus freak. He's using arguments from personal incredulity and arguments from ignorance, and then expects others to just believe him. You still got and giving nuttin? same old, same old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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