munoz Posted July 16, 2020 Report Share Posted July 16, 2020 Good to see Tony is as optimistic as ever. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53430255 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eckthesaint Posted July 16, 2020 Report Share Posted July 16, 2020 Just been listening. Chick and Tony down memory lane. He's right though. You,ve got to believe to progress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted July 16, 2020 Report Share Posted July 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, munoz said: Good to see Tony is as optimistic as ever. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53430255 Sigh.. .. 🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munoz Posted July 16, 2020 Report Share Posted July 16, 2020 If other teams of our size can do it , there's no reason we can't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted July 16, 2020 Report Share Posted July 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, Yflab said: Boo You are just a non believer! Sorry. ☹️ Weren't we meant to be Champions League this year? 😜 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted July 16, 2020 Report Share Posted July 16, 2020 Just now, Yflab said: Stop exaggerating. It was the Europa league we were planning to be in. Sorry. 🤪 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santaponsasaint Posted July 16, 2020 Report Share Posted July 16, 2020 Whatever fans think. I love Tony's enthusiasm. If he said nothing he would get a hard time. Can't win situation. Tony loves the club we all know that. I've had my fall outs with Tony and Gordon but the one I respect I know both love the club. In that respect I think St.Mirren are lucky that we have guys in charge who are fans. Coys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted July 16, 2020 Report Share Posted July 16, 2020 (edited) It sounds pie in the sky until you watch the likes of Motherwell, St Johnstone, Kilmarnock and Livingston do it. Then when you call it pie in the sky under those circumstances it looks like a lack of ambition. Hibs and Hearts should be up there but rarely are. Other than Celtic, Rangers and Aberdeen then, exactly who is it that we are afraid of so much that to suggest we could be ahead of them next year is "pie in the sky"? Edited July 16, 2020 by oaksoft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted July 16, 2020 Report Share Posted July 16, 2020 (edited) We have a manager who was less than startling last season We have players that most other teams wouldn't have and we still need almost 40% to add to the team. These statements are fine when you have people in place to make likely At this point, we don't. PS I should add if Ross had stayed I think we could have made a decent attempt to climb out of the bottom six. Edited July 16, 2020 by faraway saint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddieinEK Posted July 16, 2020 Report Share Posted July 16, 2020 Good to see Tony is as optimistic as ever. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53430255Great interview.Thanks for the link. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud the Baker Posted July 16, 2020 Report Share Posted July 16, 2020 That Tony-F he's a nutter, so much of a nutter I'm surprised he doesn't post on here - unless of course one of use no better. I remember him coming over to talk to me when I was queueing (a queue of one at that point) for tickets for the Trophy Presentation game against Morton game in April 2018, I had just completed my fourth N/S hadn't slept in approaching 20 hours and was unable to put a coherent sentence together so I just pointed to my Ramones/Saints T-Shirt which contained his name - he shook my hand and said something nice. ! He'll always be Porn Star Tony to me, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud the Baker Posted July 16, 2020 Report Share Posted July 16, 2020 49 minutes ago, faraway saint said: We have a manager who was less than startling last season We have players that most other teams wouldn't have and we still need almost 40% to add to the team. These statements are fine when you have people in place to make likely At this point, we don't. PS I should add if Ross had stayed I think we could have made a decent attempt to climb out of the bottom six. I thought JG did well last season with an, ahem, hastily assembled squad. This season and then perhaps a couple more after that are going to require managers who can adapt quickly rather like when he moved Flynn to RB after Mackenzie got injured - a move I don't remember many people advocating at the time and at the rate Obika was scoring after he settled in he was on target to beat the 15 goals in a season Higdon & Thommo scored for us which would've been the best in the top flight for us since the early-80s - of course that's going by my memory which has been fawlty in the past, Famous last words but I'm optimistic about this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted July 16, 2020 Report Share Posted July 16, 2020 6 minutes ago, Bud the Baker said: I thought JG did well last season with an, ahem, hastily assembled squad. This season and then perhaps a couple more after that are going to require managers who can adapt quickly rather like when he moved Flynn to RB after Mackenzie got injured - a move I don't remember many people advocating at the time and at the rate Obika was scoring after he settled in he was on target to beat the 15 goals in a season Higdon & Thommo scored for us which would've been the best in the top flight for us since the early-80s - of course that's going by my memory which has been fawlty in the past, Famous last words but I'm optimistic about this season. I don't and if you read through the match day threads plenty didn't at the time. I know the memory fades and things can become rosier, I'll stick with my view he, Goodwin, has not been much to talk about and has a lot to prove. Time will tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomsons dropped it Posted July 16, 2020 Report Share Posted July 16, 2020 2 hours ago, faraway saint said: Sorry. ☹️ Weren't we meant to be Champions League this year? 😜 Jesus wept...... you missed it ?????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted July 16, 2020 Report Share Posted July 16, 2020 Just now, thomsons dropped it said: Jesus wept...... you missed it ?????? Which is a surprise as I watch hunners of football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leatherface Posted July 16, 2020 Report Share Posted July 16, 2020 2 hours ago, faraway saint said: We have a manager who was less than startling last season We have players that most other teams wouldn't have and we still need almost 40% to add to the team. These statements are fine when you have people in place to make likely At this point, we don't. PS I should add if Ross had stayed I think we could have made a decent attempt to climb out of the bottom six. That's a decent truthful post, Goodwin was less than impressive and lot of the players were very average. Needs to sign some quality instead of your Waters, Hodgson, Morias, guys who wouldnt get near other 1st team's...if Goodwin thinks Baird and Erahon are anywhere near first team decent players then we are fecked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud the Baker Posted July 16, 2020 Report Share Posted July 16, 2020 (edited) OK last season was a bumpy ride at times and perhaps it all came down to a sneaky handball from Johnny-O but in the end it was our equal best finish in 30odd years - well I'm in a glass half full mode! Edited July 16, 2020 by Bud the Baker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted July 16, 2020 Report Share Posted July 16, 2020 7 minutes ago, Bud the Baker said: OK last season was a bumpy ride at times and perhaps it all came down to a sneaky handball from Johnny-O but in the end it was our equal best finish in 30odd years - well I'm in a glass half full mode! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud the Baker Posted July 16, 2020 Report Share Posted July 16, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, faraway saint said: OK - but just one place off it. Edited July 16, 2020 by Bud the Baker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPAFKA Jersey 2 Posted July 16, 2020 Report Share Posted July 16, 2020 2 hours ago, oaksoft said: It sounds pie in the sky until you watch the likes of Motherwell, St Johnstone, Kilmarnock and Livingston do it. Then when you call it pie in the sky under those circumstances it looks like a lack of ambition. Hibs and Hearts should be up there but rarely are. Other than Celtic, Rangers and Aberdeen then, exactly who is it that we are afraid of so much that to suggest we could be ahead of them next year is "pie in the sky"? This is exactly right. Some people think of Tony as a rosey cheeked optimist. Some think of him as a deluded auld fool. I am very much in the former category. The point is there is absolutely no reason why a club like St. Mirren can’t be top 6. Aye, we probably won’t, but there’s no reason why we shouldn’t. For me the start will be having a season where we comfortably are not involved in any relegation nonsense. Don’t get me wrong. I’m not really one for mid table mediocrity. Where’s the fun in that? But, when we can do that, Tony’s optimism will have a bit more believability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Ricky Posted July 16, 2020 Report Share Posted July 16, 2020 10 minutes ago, TPAFKA Jersey 2 said: This is exactly right. Some people think of Tony as a rosey cheeked optimist. Some think of him as a deluded auld fool. I am very much in the former category. The point is there is absolutely no reason why a club like St. Mirren can’t be top 6. Aye, we probably won’t, but there’s no reason why we shouldn’t. For me the start will be having a season where we comfortably are not involved in any relegation nonsense. Don’t get me wrong. I’m not really one for mid table mediocrity. Where’s the fun in that? But, when we can do that, Tony’s optimism will have a bit more believability. Tony is optimistic but also pragmatic. Top 4 should be the OF, Aberdeen and Hibs with anyone else having a chance of taking the chance of the two remaining places. So... Why not St Mirren? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattman Posted July 16, 2020 Report Share Posted July 16, 2020 (edited) I love the anger these statements bring from other clubs fans 😂 Edited July 16, 2020 by mattman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrok Posted July 17, 2020 Report Share Posted July 17, 2020 Shoot for the moon. Even if you miss, you'll land among the stars.Norman Vincent Peale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted July 17, 2020 Report Share Posted July 17, 2020 37 minutes ago, Jrok said: Shoot for the moon. Even if you miss, you'll land among the stars. Norman Vincent Peale Aye, he was a bit of a fantasist..................everyone to their own. One major criticism of The Power of Positive Thinking is that the book is full of anecdotes that are hard to substantiate. Almost all of the experts and many of the testimonials that Peale quotes as supporting his philosophy are unnamed, unknown and unsourced. Examples include a "famous psychologist",[16]:52 a two-page letter from a "practicing physician",[16]:150 another "famous psychologist",[16]:169 a "prominent citizen of New York City",[16]:88 and dozens, if not hundreds, more unverifiable quotations. Similar scientific studies of questionable validity are also cited. As psychiatrist R.C. Murphy wrote, "All this advertising is vindicated as it were, by a strict cleaving to the side of part truth," and referred to the work and the quoted material as "implausible and woodenly pious". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Ricky Posted July 17, 2020 Report Share Posted July 17, 2020 6 minutes ago, faraway saint said: Aye, he was a bit of a fantasist..................everyone to their own. One major criticism of The Power of Positive Thinking is that the book is full of anecdotes that are hard to substantiate. Almost all of the experts and many of the testimonials that Peale quotes as supporting his philosophy are unnamed, unknown and unsourced. Examples include a "famous psychologist",[16]:52 a two-page letter from a "practicing physician",[16]:150 another "famous psychologist",[16]:169 a "prominent citizen of New York City",[16]:88 and dozens, if not hundreds, more unverifiable quotations. Similar scientific studies of questionable validity are also cited. As psychiatrist R.C. Murphy wrote, "All this advertising is vindicated as it were, by a strict cleaving to the side of part truth," and referred to the work and the quoted material as "implausible and woodenly pious". Quoting someone else's opinion? Don't you have one of your own? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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