If we stay up... Give us the family stand back.

[bazil85]

11 minutes ago, Lord Pityme said:

But you keep saying ST sales are up, then freely admit you have no idea..! Are you surprised you only get comments ridiculing your crazy, confused, contradictory claims? 

Thanks for bringing up the st/earlybird post. I di believe the first line said something like "correct me if i am wrong"

and so far on ST sales you, and a couple of others have been unable to do so! In fact you admit it above. Classic Baz

But you see I’ve clearly pointed out I have not said this seasons tickets are up. You’re wrong about that & that’s why you’re not able to quote me saying that anywhere... 

I only commented on what we know, if I’m ever speculating I feel it’s pretty clear. Record season ticket sales last season, early bird this season over 3,200 same as last. 

I did correct you because you were wrong. can you explain how you can possibly be right on both parts?

Either you’re claiming 3,500 was early bird sales - wrong

or you’re claiming full sales were 3,500 meaning we couldn’t possibly end 400 tickets down given we know we’ve already sold over 3,200. 

Do you need that calculator that’s been going about? 

Edited August 28, 2019 by bazil85

[Tommy]

4 hours ago, Yflab said:

I wonder whether we will get that information from GLS in one of his updates. Or has he stopped doing that.

If it is up, then I am sure the chairman will tell us in his updates. If it isn't I don't think he will since it would look like bad news. 

[DumboBud]

1 hour ago, bazil85 said:

Your response to me originally makes no sense then. 

That because the response was not too you , it was about your post but not to you, 

Just proves my point again, it ain’t all about you. 

[Maboza]

I see a lot of posts from Baz and some others who are okay with giving away the family stand - stating that it's up to us to now grow our attendances if we want to fix this (club-created) problem. That is the stated and only solution. 

If we get to the point that the West and Main are sold out for an OF game my question would be - how many Saints fans would it be acceptable to turn away? Surely, we would not take the stand back for a very limited demand like 1 Saints fan for example? When we could be having £££ from 1600x bigots. 

So, how many would you be comfortable turning away Baz?  100?  500?  800?

Or by extension of the financial argument do we just accept that if we can't get 1600 Saints fans buying tickets for that stand (and filling the other 2 stands) then it will always be acceptable to take the OF money?? It's as simple as that right? 

 

Edited August 28, 2019 by Maboza

[bazil85]

26 minutes ago, DumboBud said:

That because the response was not too you , it was about your post but not to you, 

Just proves my point again, it ain’t all about you. 

Do you and LPM collaborate on nonsense posts?

[bazil85]

22 minutes ago, Maboza said:

I see a lot of posts from Baz and some others who are okay with giving away the family stand - stating that it's up to us to now grow our attendances if we want to fix this (club-created) problem. This is the stated and only solution. 

If we get to the point that the West and Main are sold out for an OF game my question would be - how many Saints fans would it be acceptable to turn away? Surely, we would not take the stand back for a very limited demand like 1 Saints fan for example? When we could be having £££ from 1600x bigots. 

So, how many would you be comfortable turning away Baz?  100?  500?  800?

Or by extension of the financial argument do we just accept that if we can't get 1600 Saints fans buying tickets for that stand (and filling the other 2 stands) then it will always be acceptable to take the OF money?? It's as simple as that right? 

 

Zero. My view on this has not and will never change. If we give tickets to the bigots at the expense of even one fan being able to get a ticket I would not support the arrangement. 

I don't believe we wold do that though, GLS has made comment to reviewing the arrangement on increased ticket prices before. 

[TPAFKA Jersey 2]

6 hours ago, Lord Pityme said:

Forgive me bassa, but you continually claim that ST sales are up, and you also CONTINUALLY use that falsehood to back up your support for the club kicking children and families out of their seats to accommodate bigotry.

we all look forward to getting a right good laugh at your wobbly responses.

 

4 hours ago, bazil85 said:

Show me where I have? 

Ffs give yourself a rest,  you just can’t stand the facts on this subject. Record season ticket sales & home crowds at the new stadium for the first season of the arrangement, six figure income & allowance for 10% increase to our player budget.

But but but maybe the big bad GLS & DN are lying & we have lost 500 season ticket holders... please 🤣 ouch 

still not admitting you were wrong on ticket sales, completely side stepped. Wobble 

 

3 hours ago, Lord Pityme said:

Just tell us Baz... how many more ST's sold this season over last?

its a simple enough question that would back up even your histrionics..... if true?

 

1 hour ago, Lord Pityme said:

But you keep saying ST sales are up, then freely admit you have no idea..! Are you surprised you only get comments ridiculing your crazy, confused, contradictory claims? 

Thanks for bringing up the st/earlybird post. I di believe the first line said something like "correct me if i am wrong"

and so far on ST sales you, and a couple of others have been unable to do so! In fact you admit it above. Classic Baz

 

1 hour ago, bazil85 said:

But you see I’ve clearly pointed out I have not said this seasons tickets are up. You’re wrong about that & that’s why you’re not able to quote me saying that anywhere... 

I only commented on what we know, if I’m ever speculating I feel it’s pretty clear. Record season ticket sales last season, early bird this season over 3,200 same as last. 

I did correct you because you were wrong. can you explain how you can possibly be right on both parts?

Either you’re claiming 3,500 was early bird sales - wrong

or you’re claiming full sales were 3,500 meaning we couldn’t possibly end 400 tickets down given we know we’ve already sold over 3,200. 

Do you need that calculator that’s been going about? 

LPM, you keep saying he's said something and he keeps asking you to quote him.

For the sake of all our sanities, can you f**kin quote him or shut the f**k up.

Pleeeeeease!!!

[Guest TPAFKATS]

Its not your seat..its a seat u rent for other games..the old firm game is not included...u choose to buy it in family stand knowing this...u could move stands and buy a full ticket for all games....

This ridiculous, arrogant nonsense has been raised by several other posters. You might want to check the thread before posting the same stuff.

While you may disagree, his point is neither ridiculous or arrogant nonsense. Its accurate.

[TPAFKA Jersey 2]

4 minutes ago, Yflab said:

https://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/14537132.interview-gordon-scott-the-man-who-would-be-st-mirrens-ann-budge/

“You look at the Rangers game [at the end of the season when St Mirren gave an additional stand to the Ibrox support]. The right thing would have been to go to the fans and say “we can make X amount of money but we’ll need to move a group of fans, what do you think?” and let them have their say. It would never be in my interest to go against the fans’ wishes. Things like league reconstruction or going back to the Rangers situation in 2012 – these are the things that supporters will get to vote on. And unless I felt it was an option that would put the club in peril I would go with what the fans want. That is the whole ethos of this.”

 

You pished Balfy? I'm talking about LPM quoting Bazil.

[oaksoft]

7 minutes ago, TPAFKATS said:

While you may disagree, his point is neither ridiculous or arrogant nonsense. Its accurate.

It certainly is both ridiculous and arrogant and typical of someone who is not affected by this change to the T+C on their season tickets.

[bazil85]

3 minutes ago, oaksoft said:

It certainly is both ridiculous and arrogant and typical of someone who is not affected by this change to the T+C on their season tickets.

How do you know it's typical? Have you conducted a survey on people affected and people not affected to come to this point? 

Are all the people that comment on here affected by the arrangement or are they showing non-typical responses? 

[Guest TPAFKATS]

It certainly is both ridiculous and arrogant and typical of someone who is not affected by this change to the T+C on their season tickets.

Are you affected by these changes to the terms and conditions of family stand season tickets? There was no change to the terms and conditions of their existing season tickets. Changes were made to prior to purchasing and all fans were made aware.
Changes are made to season tickets on an almost annual basis. You and I and most others who post on this thread may not like the outcome of this (old firm getting an extra stand) let's try and keep it accurate as the emotional reaction is adding nothing to the debate.

[oaksoft]

Just now, TPAFKATS said:

Are you affected by these changes to the terms and conditions of family stand season tickets? There was no change to the terms and conditions of their existing season tickets. Changes were made to prior to purchasing and all fans were made aware.
Changes are made to season tickets on an almost annual basis. You and I and most others who post on this thread may not like the outcome of this (old firm getting an extra stand) let's try and keep it accurate as the emotional reaction is adding nothing to the debate.

Easy not to care when your seat is not affected by this decision.

[bazil85]

3 minutes ago, oaksoft said:

Easy not to care when your seat is not affected by this decision.

It’s also completely plausible people would have the same opinion if their seat was but you refuse to accept that fact. 

Same as you couldn’t accept the arrangement made us a six figure sum & allowed for a 10% increase in player budget plays season. 

[Guest TPAFKATS]

Easy not to care when your seat is not affected by this decision.

Ffs, calm down dear.
And then show me where I said I didn't care.
And then answer some of the points I made, particularly are you affected by the changes to the family stand season tickets?

[gstretchuk]

23 minutes ago, oaksoft said:

Easy not to care when your seat is not affected by this decision.

Its not ur seat, u choose to rent a cheaper ticket without the old firm games. You could buy a full ticket elsewhere  u choose not to....

[oaksoft]

20 minutes ago, TPAFKATS said:

Ffs, calm down dear.
And then show me where I said I didn't care.
And then answer some of the points I made, particularly are you affected by the changes to the family stand season tickets?

You know I'm quite disappointed to see your left wing socialist values disappear when things don't affect you personally. You are doing a very good impression of someone who puts profits before people unless you are directly affected.

It's extraordinary that you can't display more empathy with those displaced for bigot cash. Your first course of action is to defend the pursuit of money with barely a word about the inconvenience for those being forcibly moved whether they like it or not.

No I am not personally affected. Just like I'm not homeless. What does that matter? Doesn't stop me feeling some empathy for those affected by the pursuit of naked greed over everything else.

I'm sorry if I don't buy into your vision of plastic socialism where you only speak up when you are personally affected.

Edited August 28, 2019 by oaksoft

[bazil85]

14 minutes ago, oaksoft said:

You know I'm quite disappointed to see your left wing socialist values disappear when things don't affect you personally. You are doing a very good impression of someone who puts profits before people unless you are directly affected.

It's extraordinary that you can't display more empathy with those displaced for bigot cash. Your first course of action is to defend the pursuit of money with barely a word about the inconvenience for those being forcibly moved whether they like it or not.

No I am not personally affected. Just like I'm not homeless. What does that matter? Doesn't stop me feeling some empathy for those affected by the pursuit of naked greed over everything else.

I'm sorry if I don't buy into your vision of plastic socialism where you only speak up when you are personally affected.

Who's naked greed?

[Guest TPAFKATS]

You know I'm quite disappointed to see your left wing socialist values disappear when things don't affect you personally. You are doing a very good impression of someone who puts profits before people unless you are directly affected.
It's extraordinary that you can't display more empathy with those displaced for bigot cash. Your first course of action is to defend the pursuit of money with barely a word about the inconvenience for those being forcibly moved whether they like it or not.
No I am not personally affected. Just like I'm not homeless. What does that matter? Doesn't stop me feeling some empathy for those affected by the pursuit of naked greed over everything else.
I'm sorry if I don't buy into your vision of plastic socialism where you only speak up when you are personally affected.

Oaksoft lecturing on empathy [emoji1787]
Again if you could address the points instead of making more baseless emotional statements the thread would benefit, not to mention those reading it.

[DumboBud]

5 hours ago, bazil85 said:

Do you and LPM collaborate on nonsense posts?

I tend to leave the inane nonsense up to you. 

[alanb]

Another charge against TRFC and we and SFA and SPFL continue to accept their behaviour

Easy money though

 

Or they adopt the refuse ticket option domestically and save us all the hassle

[Kemp]

People like Bazil and the decsion makers at our club actively encourage sectarianism in Scotland.

f**king hell, even Rangers themselves are now refusing tickets for European away games because their poison is unwelcome at UEFA.

Yet we sit and squabble about how much extra money we can make by encouraging them.

 

[pod]

2 minutes ago, Kemp said:

f**king hell, even Rangers themselves are now refusing tickets for European away games because their poison is unwelcome at UEFA.

 

They're only afraid of being kicked out of Europe. 

[Kemp]

2 minutes ago, pod said:

They're only afraid of being kicked out of Europe. 

Indeed, but UEFA have succeeded in making the penny drop at last.

Scottish Football won't do anything not only because of the weasels running the SPFL, but because of our own club and the supporters that are happy to encourage the bigots.

[St.Ricky]

8 hours ago, Tommy said:

If it is up, then I am sure the chairman will tell us in his updates. If it isn't I don't think he will since it would look like bad news. 

News management. Nothing new there.