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6 minutes ago, shull said:

Do you tap your foot while the sectarian songs are being sung, and thinking about the money we are making. 

At the same, the Panda Club are at home because they are not welcome at St Mirren Park . 

Absolutely disgraceful and shameful by the St Mirren Board and you. 

More deflection, if that’s your coping mechanism fine. Any st Mirren fan wanting to attend these games can & reducing them to one stand won’t stop the songs. 

The powers in Scottish football should be doing much more to tackle this problem yes but us increasing our revenue by giving them more seats is not out of line for many clubs. Football is a money business and you’d have to be naive not to realise that by now. 

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Just now, shull said:

Another funny post. :lol:

My sides are sore. 

Anyway, I am far from being upset 

My addiction has been beaten. I feel totally cleansed and near euphoric. 

ANYWAY, ONCE AGAIN, WHAT DO THE MILLIONS OF SO CALLED DECENT SEVCO AND CELTIC DO TO STOP THE VERMINOUS BEHAVIOUR OF THEIR FELLOW FANS (THE SO CALLED MINORITY)? 

So 100% of these fans are bigots? A mother or father taking young children to the games that don’t jump up and kick off at the singing putting their children in danger is a bigot? A fan that just wants to be passive is a bigot in their passiveness :blink: what action do you take at these games to stop the singing? Never seen you run over the park with your knickers outside your trousers & jacket tied around your neck yet :lol:

have yourself a wee sit down. Control the controllables, this situation ain’t changing anytime soon no matter how many times people troll up old ground. 

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1 minute ago, bazil85 said:

More deflection, if that’s your coping mechanism fine. Any st Mirren fan wanting to attend these games can & reducing them to one stand won’t stop the songs. 

The powers in Scottish football should be doing much more to tackle this problem yes but us increasing our revenue by giving them more seats is not out of line for many clubs. Football is a money business and you’d have to be naive not to realise that by now. 

Don't let any of them in till we know they will behave. They have had over one hundred years of chances. 

Going by your logic, we should empty the prisons and let every serious criminal in as long as we are making money. 

The Authorities could solve the problem today by removing the licences of both Celtic and Sevco meaning they can't play anymore. 

So simple, but they won't do it. 

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Just now, shull said:

Don't let any of them in till we know they will behave. They have had over one hundred years of chances. 

Going by your logic, we should empty the prisons and let every serious criminal in as long as we are making money. 

The Authorities could solve the problem today by removing the licences of both Celtic and Sevco meaning they can't play anymore. 

So simple, but they won't do it. 

Not our choice, powers that be in Scottish football who pander to them (no denying it) & the nature of the finances. If in isolation we gave them the absolute minimum tickets we’d be condemning ourselves to almost certain relegation & backlash. More idealistic thinking from you, not much changes. 

Going by my logic you’re talking nonsense. My logic is that not 100% of any fan base are bigots ffs 

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1 minute ago, bazil85 said:

So 100% of these fans are bigots? A mother or father taking young children to the games that don’t jump up and kick off at the singing putting their children in danger is a bigot? A fan that just wants to be passive is a bigot in their passiveness :blink: what action do you take at these games to stop the singing? Never seen you run over the park with your knickers outside your trousers & jacket tied around your neck yet :lol:

have yourself a wee sit down. Control the controllables, this situation ain’t changing anytime soon no matter how many times people troll up old ground. 

It could all change today if the authorities and Scottish Football had balls. 

I have never seen a passive away when these two Clubs are visiting. 

Anyway, why are decent human beings among the morons ? 

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Just now, bazil85 said:

Not our choice, powers that be in Scottish football who pander to them (no denying it) & the nature of the finances. If in isolation we gave them the absolute minimum tickets we’d be condemning ourselves to almost certain relegation & backlash. More idealistic thinking from you, not much changes. 

Going by my logic you’re talking nonsense. My logic is that not 100% of any fan base are bigots ffs 

I would happily play in the Lowland League than accommodate Sevco and Celtic. 

Don't give them any tickets. 

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15 minutes ago, shull said:

It could all change today if the authorities and Scottish Football had balls. 

I have never seen a passive away when these two Clubs are visiting. 

Anyway, why are decent human beings among the morons ? 

Yep, world hunger, child poverty & global vaccination against avoidable diseases could all be resolved in a very short period as well if the powers in this world got their act together. 

You seem completely unable to grasp the difference between wanting something & practicality. Sure the above are extreme examples but football chiefs in this country are cowards & existing rules give both clubs too much power.

Do I want it changed? Yes, will it ever be? Probably no time soon. Is it realistic to expect our team to be an outlier & have the ability to make a stand? Again no time soon. 

Because some people just support these teams. 

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16 minutes ago, shull said:

I would happily play in the Lowland League than accommodate Sevco and Celtic. 

Don't give them any tickets. 

Still idealistic whether you’d do it or not. 

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10 minutes ago, bazil85 said:

Yep, world hunger, child poverty & global vaccination against avoidable diseases could all be resolved in a very short period as well if the powers in this world got their act together. 

You seem completely unable to grasp the difference between wanting something & practicality. Sure the above are extreme examples but football chiefs in this country are cowards & existing rules give both clubs too much power.

Do I want it changed? Yes, will it ever be? Probably no time soon. Is it realistic to expect our team to be an outlier & have the ability to make a stand? Again no time soon. 

Because some people just support these teams. 

It will never change as long as you and others continue to appease them. 

Don't play them. 

Don't give them tickets. 

Forty Clubs can walk away today and start new leagues without them. 

Stop counting their sectarian money, Bazzy. 

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12 minutes ago, bazil85 said:

Still idealistic whether you’d do it or not. 

I won't be doing it anymore while they are part of our football. 

Game over. 

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IF you have just opened up at this point - no need to go back and look through the screeds of repetitive posturing . . .

Here is a quick summary - One side is arguing it is good for the club (Financially). The other saying that is a lie and it is bad for ours fans.

There saved you a week of your life . . .😃

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3 minutes ago, DougJamie said:

Maybe we should change the name of this thread as I am pretty sure we did stay up

keep up - among these 33 pages I have asked for this TWICE !  It keeps falling on deaf ears though !:2cool

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1 hour ago, shull said:

Don't let any of them in till we know they will behave.

Right you guys, are you going to behave. Ok in you go. :unsure: Really don't see it in my life time.

Question. Was it as bad when the OF were taking a fee from clubs for issuing tickets to their supposedly trusted supporters clubs. Hence no green brigade etc.     

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35 minutes ago, Sweeper07 said:

keep up - among these 33 pages I have asked for this TWICE !  It keeps falling on deaf ears though !:2cool

Did you go back and check.

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50 minutes ago, shull said:

It will never change as long as you and others continue to appease them. 

Don't play them. 

Don't give them tickets. 

Forty Clubs can walk away today and start new leagues without them. 

Stop counting their sectarian money, Bazzy. 

If being the key word. It won’t happen. 

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40 minutes ago, BuddieinEK said:

Very mature and such a positive contribution for you!

Coming from the OF's number one apologist that's rich!

I hope you still get a seat at Motherwell and Killie games!
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You always become the thing you hate eh? Here you are crying over Rangers and Celtic fans being in our stadium but acting just like them in claiming us ‘wee team’ fans must favour one of the clubs. 

Guess if this is how you cope with a decision you have zero power to change then that’s fine. :thumbs2

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2 minutes ago, shull said:

No ' if ' was mentioned. 

If we don’t play them 

if we don’t give them tickets 

if 40 teams walk away. 

None of which has a chance in hell of actually happening. ‘If’ none of that happens things won’t change. 

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13 minutes ago, shull said:

No ifs about it. 

Just do it. 

Problem solved. 

Sectarian cnuts gone and you crying. 

It isn’t though because it isn’t happening and won’t happen. Welcome to the real world. 

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21 minutes ago, shull said:

No ifs about it. 

Just do it. 

Problem solved. 

Sectarian cnuts gone and you crying. 

Whilst R & C are the worst offenders of Sectarianism, they aren't the only guilty ones. Just need to look at Edinburgh, Ayrshire and sections of the Lanarkshire teams, there are elements of sectarianism.... Whilst not as rife, it exists there too. Do we stop them attending? Genuine question.

Sectarianism is not the only issue blighting our game.

There have been other clubs who have been involved in Shady behavior, such as Ayr (smoke bombs) at our ground, Morton tearing up seats.

Airdrie have had issues with Racism in the past.

The list of issues could go on.

My question is, how/where do we draw a line in this? How do we decide which is worst, who can attend and can't? Are we in risk of sectarianism ourselves by banning certain fans and not others based on the 'perceived' beliefs (we can't factually prove any clubs fans hold any particular belief as a whole)?

 

Ps I would LOVE to eradicate the issue, it f**ks me off no end. However, life and these type of issues aren't as (excuse the pun) 'black and white' as that. 

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8 minutes ago, spankin_panda said:

Whilst R & C are the worst offenders of Sectarianism, they aren't the only guilty ones. Just need to look at Edinburgh, Ayrshire and sections of the Lanarkshire teams, there are elements of sectarianism.... Whilst not as rife, it exists there too. Do we stop them attending? Genuine question.

Sectarianism is not the only issue blighting our game.

There have been other clubs who have been involved in Shady behavior, such as Ayr (smoke bombs) at our ground, Morton tearing up seats.

Airdrie have had issues with Racism in the past.

The list of issues could go on.

My question is, how/where do we draw a line in this? How do we decide which is worst, who can attend and can't? Are we in risk of sectarianism ourselves by banning certain fans and not others based on the 'perceived' beliefs (we can't factually prove any clubs fans hold any particular belief as a whole)?

 

Ps I would LOVE to eradicate the issue, it f**ks me off no end. However, life and these type of issues aren't as (excuse the pun) 'black and white' as that. 

Its not saints fans, or the saints board job to eradicate racist, sectarian, bigoted behaviour. But it is as Smisa are 30% shareholders, and the board's responsibility to ensure St Mirren fans of all ages can safely attend all home games, and not be in fear of violence, intimidation, sectarian singing, or fearful of being struck with explosives.

you put your own house in order, and look after your own. Then shine the light on others!

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