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2 hours ago, Isle Of Bute Saint said:

Oran is contracted till 2021 would be very surprised if he leaves. I also think it's the play off's for us though there is still an outside chance of 10th we have to go for it. Hope our fans rock the house tomorrow. 

The five of us will do our best to make a lot of noise IOBS ! COYS

 

St Mirren vs Hamilton - three key duels in the big basement battle

 
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St Mirren have to beat Hamilton in Paisley if they are to avoid the dreaded relegation playoff. They host an Accies side who relegated another struggling side in basement boys Dundee last time out.

Accies can secure survival, while St Mirren have to win to try and avoid the playoff spot so who are the key battles we need to look out for this weekend?

Danny Mullen vs Ziggy Gordon

Accies and Dundee aside, the Buddies are the lowest Premiership scorers. All pressure is on Danny Mullen to replicate his wonder goal against St Johnstone a few weeks back. With two in his last three, the 24-year-old has chosen an excellent time to hit some form.

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Mullen is the main man at the minute for St Mirren. (photo by David Young/Action Plus via Getty Images)

Responsible for trying to stop him will be Accies stalwart Ziggy Gordon. Hamilton’s key defender may have his work cut out. St Mirren are the home side and need the win so don’t be surprised if Oran Kearney’s side come flying out the traps and look to pile on the pressure.

Stephen McGinn vs Tony Andreu

St Mirren’s club captain proves a real anchor for them at times, a protection in front of an often vulnerable defence. He must go all out to stop Accies’ primary creative influence, Tony Andreu. If he can do that, it gives the Buddies a real chance of gaining the win they desperately need.

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Tony Andreu tucked away his spot-kick to send Dundee down. (Photo by David Young/Action Plus via Getty Images)

A modern-day Accies legend, the Frenchman returned to the club on loan from Coventry City. The former Dundee United loanee will take great pleasure from being the one to relegate Dundee. A boost of confidence heading into a big game is massive if Accies can stave off the drop.

Paul McGinn vs Mickel Miller

Paul McGinn, like brother Stephen, is a big character in the Buddies’ changing room. Should Saints keep a clean sheet, their chances obviously increase to win the game. Fail to do so and it could cost them a potential Premiership place.

He’ll have his work cut out trying to stop Accies’ top scorer. Influential with his goals and winning the penalty at Dens, Miller is Accies’ main man in an attacking sense. He could be the difference between getting a result or not.

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Brian Rice is on the verge of keeping Hamilton up. (photo by David Young/Action Plus via Getty Images)

Omens don’t look good for St Mirren

The Buddies haven’t beaten Accies this season. Brian Rice‘s side have recorded two wins in the three meetings so far this season. Another would do to send St Mirren into the relegation playoff spot. It’s now or never for Oran Kearney’s men.

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1 hour ago, St.Ricky said:

 Rice‘s side have recorded two wins in the three meetings so far this season. Another would do to send St Mirren into the relegation playoff spot. It’s now or never for Oran Kearney’s men.

Brian Rice's side haven't beaten us at all this season. Martin Canning's side beat us twice. Twice when Brian Rice, in fact, was part of our management team on the losing side. 

I understand the point the piece is trying to make but it clearly suggests that BR has some sort of Indian sign over us this season when that's clearly not the case.

The opposite could more reasonably be argued that he was part of the issues surrounding our club rather than the upturn in his current club. 

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6 hours ago, Ayrshire Saints said:

I doubt a part time NI league club could afford the money it would take to get him out his contract unless he h as clauses in it for such a scenario.. 

Word is he goes for free in the close season. Hence he never intended to live over here. Piss poor appointment and contract.

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He’ll have his work cut out trying to stop Accies’ top scorer. Influential with his goals and winning the penalty at Dens, Miller is Accies’ main man in an attacking sense. He could be the difference between getting a result or not.

Miller has 5 league goals in 30 appearances at 437 mins per goal which is worse than Simeon Jackson 6 goals in 29 appearances and 343 minutes per goal and Mullen 5 goals in 21 appearances at 244 minutes per goal. It's almost as if Mr. Kennedy is not too well versed on the Bottom 6 of the Scottish Premiership!

PS - With a record like his (5 league goals in 30 appearances at 437 mins per goal) Miller would get slaughtered on here! :death

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55 minutes ago, Lord Pityme said:

Word is he goes for free in the close season. Hence he never intended to live over here. Piss poor appointment and contract.

Word is - From you this means - I have just made this up...  usual poor show from you...:hammer

The Hence does not matter as it is based on the previous made up nonsense that you thrive on...  :fire2

Piss poor appointment and contract - increasing the ridiculous, based on the previous two nonsense statements - cause you are an expert in nonsense right? :moony2

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43 minutes ago, Gordon Urquhart said:

Tony Andreu is the danger tomorrow. He is a class act.

Agreed he can do damage - but he has not been outstanding this time around - hoping that continues.

I think we have better players than them - we just need to play well and believe... get the goals and enjoy the 3 points along with the fans...:bounce4

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9 hours ago, Lord Pityme said:

Word is he goes for free in the close season. Hence he never intended to live over here. Piss poor appointment and contract.

 

There's no 'word is'. You  are taking ONE twitter source as your basis here. This is most probably a load of shite. 

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1 hour ago, djchapsticks said:

 

There's no 'word is'. You  are taking ONE twitter source as your basis here. This is most probably a load of shite. 

Really?

you've got the twitter sources, which may or may not be close to the truth...

you've got the fact that Kearney never moved over here....

you've got the fact his contract will, like Stubbs have season end release clauses...

and what will be a silence that speaks volumes from the club not! Publicly stating its all hogwash.

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1 hour ago, Lord Pityme said:

Really?

you've got the twitter sources, which may or may not be close to the truth...

you've got the fact that Kearney never moved over here....

you've got the fact his contract will, like Stubbs have season end release clauses...

and what will be a silence that speaks volumes from the club not! Publicly stating its all hogwash.

Twitter source. Singular. Not plural. There is only one twitter feed coming up with this. Anything following this is latching onto the original. 

It was quite an open point of discussion that he wouldn't be moving his family over immediately as his kids schools had started at the point where he took the job. He addressed this directly at the Q&A. 

 Also. Where are these 'facts' that there is a release clause in his contract? 

 

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57 minutes ago, djchapsticks said:

Twitter source. Singular. Not plural. There is only one twitter feed coming up with this. Anything following this is latching onto the original. 

It was quite an open point of discussion that he wouldn't be moving his family over immediately as his kids schools had started at the point where he took the job. He addressed this directly at the Q&A. 

 Also. Where are these 'facts' that there is a release clause in his contract? 

 

Yes intially he said he wouldnt be moving the family over mid term, which is entirely understandable. However its now end of season, and its obvious he had no intention of ever moving the family over. His appointment, and the way he, and the club approached it always had the air of "Oran's Year Out"....

it was always a personal experience for Kearney, he wasn't committed to SMFC he has basically scratched one off the bucket list by having a go at full time, professional football management, and in the process spending and costing our club a feckin fortune to be, probably at best playing off to stay in this league. There are plenty of us on here bemused at the revolving door to the managers office at SMFC in recent years. We all know we need stability, and give a young manager a chance to build.

unfortunately it seems our board panicked after the Stubbs fiasco, and appointed a guy who just fancied a wee try out at managing us, rather than appointing someone who was committed to the job, the club and learning his trade.

are we such a big club, with infinite resources that we can afford to have a manager fly in, and out for a few days each week? Successful managers at any professional level are the ones who eat, sleep and breathe football 24/7. The facts are its not a job to take if you value quality family time, as the demands to know what's happening at every club in your league make it a seven day a week job.

reference his contract, it was discussed he has the season by season termination clauses like Stubbs. So compo is only the amount due till season end, meaning he will walk for nothing when our last game is played, and we wont pick up any compo if he signs up for Coleraine, or any other Irish super club. If its all confirmed then you'll know we've been had!

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55 minutes ago, Lord Pityme said:

Yes intially he said he wouldnt be moving the family over mid term, which is entirely understandable. However its now end of season, and its obvious he had no intention of ever moving the family over. His appointment, and the way he, and the club approached it always had the air of "Oran's Year Out"....

it was always a personal experience for Kearney, he wasn't committed to SMFC he has basically scratched one off the bucket list by having a go at full time, professional football management, and in the process spending and costing our club a feckin fortune to be, probably at best playing off to stay in this league. There are plenty of us on here bemused at the revolving door to the managers office at SMFC in recent years. We all know we need stability, and give a young manager a chance to build.

unfortunately it seems our board panicked after the Stubbs fiasco, and appointed a guy who just fancied a wee try out at managing us, rather than appointing someone who was committed to the job, the club and learning his trade.

are we such a big club, with infinite resources that we can afford to have a manager fly in, and out for a few days each week? Successful managers at any professional level are the ones who eat, sleep and breathe football 24/7. The facts are its not a job to take if you value quality family time, as the demands to know what's happening at every club in your league make it a seven day a week job.

reference his contract, it was discussed he has the season by season termination clauses like Stubbs. So compo is only the amount due till season end, meaning he will walk for nothing when our last game is played, and we wont pick up any compo if he signs up for Coleraine, or any other Irish super club. If its all confirmed then you'll know we've been had!

Who's been "had" and how ? 

If that's the type of contract he was offered and signed (and none of us know what his contract says it's all made up) then it would appear that in your scenario OK would be perfectly entitled to exercise his right under that contract so not seeing how any one will have been "had" in the situation you imagine.

I presume you are saying you would rather we gave extended contracts with no clauses where we would need to pay big compensation payments if things were not working out ???

 

All hypothetical nonsense anyway lets get right behind OK and the team tonight and see where we are. I have a hunch a good few are itching for us not to win tonight to enhance their anti OK / board agenda but I will back any manager ahead of a crunch game rather that sitting as a kangaroo court before a ball is kicked.

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47 minutes ago, Ayrshire Saints said:

Who's been "had" and how ? 

If that's the type of contract he was offered and signed (and none of us know what his contract says it's all made up) then it would appear that in your scenario OK would be perfectly entitled to exercise his right under that contract so not seeing how any one will have been "had" in the situation you imagine.

I presume you are saying you would rather we gave extended contracts with no clauses where we would need to pay big compensation payments if things were not working out ???

 

All hypothetical nonsense anyway lets get right behind OK and the team tonight and see where we are. I have a hunch a good few are itching for us not to win tonight to enhance their anti OK / board agenda but I will back any manager ahead of a crunch game rather that sitting as a kangaroo court before a ball is kicked.

Which saints fans do you know who are 'itching' for us not to win tonight? That mate is just bollocks style deflection. Because a poster has a different view to you they must be willing the team to get beat? Ffs what tosh.

if Kearney does walk the issue is with the board selecting someone who only fancied a wee go at it, rather than someone who wanted to learn and build a side. We will be no better than Dundee if Kearney is offski, a rudderless ship captained by idiots.

anyone who wanted a manager signed who would stay and build will have been had if Kearney goes. Are you suggesting we carry on having two managers a season and just hope something good happens?

very happy with clauses that mean we arent liable to pay up two or three years wages if a manager is sacked, as long as you give them to a managet who is committed to staying the course and not just having a wee go at it.

wasnt impressed with the choice of a part time manager from a real diddy league getting the job, his win rate is woeful, but if he keeps us up any way he can was more than happy for him to stay on and build.

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50 minutes ago, Gordon Urquhart said:

Feeling quietly confident about this one. This is bad....

Feeling Accies start the game already with the result that suits them and will sit deep, frustrate, and hit us on the break and set pieces!

we haven't achieved it this season, but tonight we really need to find ways to open up a team, and create havoc! Thats why i would start Nazon & Cooke to be real pigs in the defenders faces. Then bring the Hobbits on to see out a win, or change it up.

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